Manufacturers: Please invent this button

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Any hardware manufacturers out there (and the software companies to link the
button up), please, please, please can you "invent" the button on the
standard keyboard that toggles the case of selected text between upper,
lower and capital first word (like the shift+F3? option in Word).

Why has this never been implemented?
 
Any hardware manufacturers out there
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Nothing to do with hardware really.
(and the software companies to link the button up), please, please, please can you "invent" the
button on the standard keyboard that toggles the case of selected text between upper, lower and
capital first word (like the shift+F3?
option in Word).
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Why has this never been implemented?
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It has, just not with a dedicated key on the keyboard.
 
Any hardware manufacturers out there (and the software companies to link the
button up), please, please, please can you "invent" the button on the
standard keyboard that toggles the case of selected text between upper,
lower and capital first word (like the shift+F3? option in Word).

Why has this never been implemented?
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It can't easily be implemented at that level. An ordinary keyboard has
no way of knowing what, if any, text is selected. A keyboard has no way
of telling if it's running DOS, Windows, or linux, let alone which
window has focus, or if any text is selected. Because all the "smarts"
is all with the computer. Even the keyboards with "special" buttons do
little more that generate a keycode that is interpreted by a driver to
do a specific action. These actions are limited to either start a
specific program, or operate on a standard set of windows functions.
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote
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It can't easily be implemented at that level.
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Corse it can.
An ordinary keyboard has no way of
knowing what, if any, text is selected.
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Doesnt need to. Currently with cut and paste, that's left to
the OS to do what is appropriate if nothing is selected etc.

Same with undo and redo keys.
A keyboard has no way of telling if it's running DOS, Windows,
or linux, let alone which window has focus, or if any text is
selected. Because all the "smarts" is all with the computer.
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Doesnt need to. That stuff is always done via the driver
and if the driver isnt installed etc the key does nothing.
Even the keyboards with "special" buttons do little more that generate
a keycode that is interpreted by a driver to do a specific action.
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So there is no reason why that cant work
with this special action he wants to see too.
These actions are limited to either start a specific program,
or operate on a standard set of windows functions.
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Wrong, most obviously with undo and redo keys.
 
Rod said:
Corse it can.


Doesnt need to. Currently with cut and paste, that's left to
the OS to do what is appropriate if nothing is selected etc.

Same with undo and redo keys.
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Just sends the keycode generated by ctrl+z and ctrl+y, which are
implemented by most windows programs. It's transparent. Text selection
and modification isn't.
Doesnt need to. That stuff is always done via the driver
and if the driver isnt installed etc the key does nothing.


So there is no reason why that cant work
with this special action he wants to see too.


Wrong, most obviously with undo and redo keys.
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As said, it just sends a ctrl+z or ctrl+y to the keyboard input buffer.
Those are easy. The only reason a handful of keyboards have those keys
is that some users don't remember shortcuts.
 
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Rod Speed wrote
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Just sends the keycode generated by ctrl+z and ctrl+y,
which are implemented by most windows programs.
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Irrelevant to your claim about the keyboard
needing to know anything about what is selected.
It's transparent. Text selection and modification isn't.
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Wrong again. Its just as easy to have a predefined
key combination for what he wants as well.
As said, it just sends a ctrl+z or ctrl+y to the keyboard input
buffer. Those are easy. The only reason a handful of keyboards
have those keys is that some users don't remember shortcuts.
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Completely trivial to have more shortcuts.
 
then use Word to type EVERYTHING, otherwise build your own notepad in
C++ with function key support for it.....Geesh, not a hardware issue
 
Mitochondrion said:
then use Word to type EVERYTHING, otherwise build your own notepad in
C++ with function key support for it.....Geesh, not a hardware issue
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What's not a hardware issue? A button sounds like hardware to me.
 
Mitochondrion said:
What's not a hardware issue? A button sounds like hardware to me.
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Exactly - some of the comments in this thread are just plain dumb. Buttons
are all about making it easier for people to do things and if someone has a
requirement for a function of hardware or software it can be made into a
button. Enough people then need to argue the case for adding the button to
the standard keyboard layout (buttons are there to make tasks easier are
they not?).

Mitrochodrian's comments are the equivalent of saying "yeah, but you can
press shift and the letter every time you want to capitalise words - you
don't need a caps lock key" - yeah we know that smartass - but we want a key
to do that anyway! "Geesh".
 
As I said, write your own editor with the functionality, otherwise
it's just not going to happen. I never said anything as stupid as not
needing a caps lock button so quit trying to stuff my mouth with
words, hey pal I never even said it was a bad idea, all I said
(implied) was to use the editor with the fuctionality that you like,
write your own (Plugin/editor), or bite the bullet and live without
the invert/correct case button, maybe your button will be available
on special word processing keyboards who KNOWS...
 
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