Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official ISO images available

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Gordon said:
Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official ISO images are available
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 00:47:25 +0200 (CEST)

ISO images of Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official are now publicly available
on a number of FTP mirrors!
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3

Discover all new features and the full new range of Mandrakelinux 10.0
Official at:
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/10

Regards
Gordon

Cousin Gordon ....

Yesterday I installed Mandrake 10 using iso files
downloaded from one of the mirrors a couple of days ago ....

Installed on a 5 year old 250 MHz Compaq with 192 MB of memory ....

There were 3 FULL 700 MB CDs, but after scanning through
the install package, it seems that I need to go looking
for a fourth CD which contains some development tools
that I'm interested in ....

This was the first full Linux distribution that I've installed,
and although a bit confusing in spots, the installation went smoothly
and took about an hour and a half ....

Everything I've tried seems to work well,
but as yet I haven't touched but a small fraction
of what is available ....

Using some of the system configuration tools
seemed a bit slow in spots, but perhaps this
is expected behavior and/or results from running
on an old and slow machine ....

I haven't yet managed to properly confiure the network card
to be able to connect to the net under Mandrake 10 or Win98_SE ....

I'm 100% sure that in both cases,
that the problem is operator error .... e.g. .... *ME*

However, the same network card/modem in the same machine
self configures and connects to the net with no problems
and no extra installation needed under Knoppix 3.2
which is now my only working net connection ....

The LILO boot loader that was installed along with Linux Mandrake
allows dual booting with Windows ....

I installed Mandrake into an empty existing partition
on a drive which also contains several Windows FAT32 partitions,
and was suprised to find that Windows does NOT show
the Linux partition and now the drive letter assignments
in Windows are all off by one ....

Can drive letters in DOS/Win be reassigned ????
I don't remember ....

I tried to fake it out by resizing and creating a new partition
which the partition manager shows in the right spot address-wise,
but Windows manages to stick it at the end of the drive list
instead of the beginning ....

Any suggestions for Linux Newbie News ????
 
Gordon Darling wrote:

Yesterday I installed Mandrake 10 using iso files downloaded from one
of the mirrors a couple of days ago ....
[...]
I installed Mandrake into an empty existing partition on a drive which
also contains several Windows FAT32 partitions, and was suprised to
find that Windows does NOT show the Linux partition and now the drive
letter assignments in Windows are all off by one ....

Can drive letters in DOS/Win be reassigned ????
I don't remember ....

I tried to fake it out by resizing and creating a new partition which
the partition manager shows in the right spot address-wise, but Windows
manages to stick it at the end of the drive list instead of the
beginning ....

Any suggestions for Linux Newbie News ????

Changing drive letters for all Win Systems
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article02-024
 
Cousin Gordon ....

Yesterday I installed Mandrake 10 using iso files
downloaded from one of the mirrors a couple of days ago ....

Installed on a 5 year old 250 MHz Compaq with 192 MB of memory ....

There were 3 FULL 700 MB CDs, but after scanning through
the install package, it seems that I need to go looking
for a fourth CD which contains some development tools
that I'm interested in ....

The fourth CD is actually only available for d/l if you are a Mandrake
Club member or you buy a boxed set. It's a collection of non-GPL software
(things like Adobe Acrobat, nVidia drivers) and proprietary "trialware".

First thing you should do is set up "Software Sources"

Under the KDE menu:
System > Configuration > Packaging > Software Media Manager

You'll find CD1/2/3 already there. Add a source for updates and "contrib"
see http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php. The contrib mirrors give you
thousands more packages.

Also see the Windows/Linux table of equivalents at
http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/

If there are specific development tools you are looking for post back and
I'll try to help

I haven't yet managed to properly confiure the network card
to be able to connect to the net under Mandrake 10 or Win98_SE ....

I'm 100% sure that in both cases,
that the problem is operator error .... e.g. .... *ME*

However, the same network card/modem in the same machine
self configures and connects to the net with no problems
and no extra installation needed under Knoppix 3.2
which is now my only working net connection ....

Which? Network card/Router or a modem??

If a modem make sure you have the kde-network-kppp RPM installed
and fire up kppp. Set up the ISP details and off you go. The kppp
dialog box is a bit like the Windows DUN but more flexible.
The LILO boot loader that was installed along with Linux Mandrake
allows dual booting with Windows ....

I installed Mandrake into an empty existing partition
on a drive which also contains several Windows FAT32 partitions,
and was suprised to find that Windows does NOT show
the Linux partition and now the drive letter assignments
in Windows are all off by one ....

Can drive letters in DOS/Win be reassigned ????
I don't remember ....

Windows ignores all other Operating Systems but Linux will see them all.
Now we get into the realms of primary partions and partitions within
extended partitions and how Windows treats them!! Within Windows open
device manager, find the partion/drive letter and select properties. You
should be able to specify a start/finish drive letter (i.e. make them both
the same) but you can't change what windows sees as the primary partition
on on the first drive - that's always going to be drive C: whatever you
do. You'll probably be able to move drive letters up the chain (i.e. make
drive E: become drive H:) but you'll probably not be able to shift down
the drive letter table.

A commercial solution is "System Commander" which which will boot multiple
operating systems. I once had it booting a box with Win98, DOS 6.22/WFW
3.1/Red Hat 8 and Solaris 8 on different partitions. What Syatem Commander
will do is allow you to hide specific partitions from each OS before it
boots. There may be freeware alternatives but I'm not aware of any
freeware boot manager that allows this.
I tried to fake it out by resizing and creating a new partition
which the partition manager shows in the right spot address-wise,
but Windows manages to stick it at the end of the drive list
instead of the beginning ....

Any suggestions for Linux Newbie News ????

Hope the above helps. Post again if you need further help.

Is your email (hotmail) valid? If so I'll send you my email address off
list.

Good Luck.
Gordon
 
In said:
A commercial solution is "System Commander" which which will boot
multiple operating systems. I once had it booting a box with Win98,
DOS 6.22/WFW 3.1/Red Hat 8 and Solaris 8 on different partitions. What
Syatem Commander will do is allow you to hide specific partitions from
each OS before it boots. There may be freeware alternatives but I'm
not aware of any freeware boot manager that allows this.

XOSL does this (and it's free)

see here -
<http://www.pricelessware.org/2003/PL2003SYSTEMUTILITIES.htm#PartitionManag
er>
 
Hell, LILO and GRUB can do this. GRUB anyway I'm sure can hide and
swap partitions to fool Windows.

What System Commander does is allow you to select each OS individually in
its menu and then specify that the specific OS can see partitions a, b,
c and that x, y, z are hidden for that OS. Pretty sure that
Lilo can't do that. Never used grub so I'll read the documentation for
that.

Thanks also to Simon for the link to XOSL, I'll have a look at that too.

Presumably, either grub or xosl will help Cousin Stanley.

Thanks to both
Gordon
 
....
First thing you should do is set up "Software Sources"
....

OK ....
Add a source for updates and "contrib"
see http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php.
....

Found a reference to easyurpmi over in alt.os.linux.mandrake,
and managed to get it configured and working on the 2nd try
with a different ftp server than CPAN ....

Since the 1st try failed, I used urpmi.removemedia -a ,
which cleared *everything* out ....

How are the designations for the first 3 install CDs coded
when adding them back ????

urpmi.addmedia main ----cdrom1 , cdrom2 , cdrom3---- with ../????

The software package manger/installer is impressive
and seems to work well with the limited experience
that I have with it ....

Also see the Windows/Linux table of equivalents at
http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/
Thanks for the link ....

Currently, I don't feel the need to search out too many equivalents
as I've found most of the basics : browser, mail/news , editor, etc.
but I'm sure I'll check later ...

Also, Python 2.3.3 works right out of the box,
batteries included .... Whoo Hoo !!!!

If there are specific development tools you are looking for
post back and I'll try to help

Some Python GUI libraries .... found / installed / tested ....

Have I mentioned that the package manager/installer
in Linux Mandake is impressive ????

Install NIC_Router_Modem Score is now ....

Knoppix 3.2 ............. + 1
Mandrake 10 ............. + 1
Win98_SE ................ 0

After a bit of futzing about with the configs,
I finally managed to get the NIC connected
under Mandrake 10 and am currently on-line with it ....

However, I'm experiencing too many time-out problems
when surfing to web-sites that I never had
with my previous aDSL internal modem ....

For example, [ google.com | alltheweb.com | python.org ]
all time-out regularly ....

I think I remember tweaking some time-out settings,
but can't remember where or how or how to find them again ....

Also tried getting to dslreports.com to look for tune-ups,
but it timed-out too ....

Windows ignores all other Operating Systems
but Linux will see them all.

Now we get into the realms of primary partions and partitions
within extended partitions and how Windows treats them !!

Within Windows open device manager, find the partion/drive letter
and select properties.

You should be able to specify a start/finish drive letter
(i.e. make them both the same) but you can't change
what windows sees as the primary partition on the first drive
- that's always going to be drive C: whatever you do.

You'll probably be able to move drive letters up the chain
(i.e. make drive E: become drive H:) but you'll probably not be able
to shift down the drive letter table.

Thanks for the info ....

On the drive I used the space available was at the beginning
of the drive with all of the Windows partitions following it,
and I wanted to try and get Linux installed without having
to re-load all of the Windows programs ....

However, if the partition manager will let me nuke all
of the Windows partitions and re-create them above
the Linux partition without re-installing Linux,
then with the Linux partition at the end
instead of the beginning, Windows should be able
to sort out the drive-letter assignments ....

It seems this should work, and if I have to re-install
Linux I will, but I'd rather not ....

Is your email (hotmail) valid ?

Yes it is ....

However, I'm not sure how to config KMail
to deal with HotMail addresses ....

I have HTML connection strings that work
with Outlook Express, but haven't tried them
with KMail as yet ....

Also, haven't been able to check my regular eMail box
through my ISP, because the connection appears to be
timing-out ....

Got to fix these time-out problems ....

Good Luck.
Gordon

And thanks to you Gordon for ....

o providing useful information to me with regard
to these particular problems

o your on-going effort to provide useful freeware links
and support information here in ACF ....
 
....
Presumably, either grub or xosl will help Cousin Stanley.
....

Thanks, I'll look for related info ....

I've heard of both of these boot loaders,
but have experience with neither ....

Currently using the default LILO installation ....


Something else, I forgot to mention
in an earlier reply is that the
Open Office verion that is included
with the MDK 10 install I have
is in Italian ....

Not sure how that happened ....

Will it have to be re-installed
or is there a language switch ????
 
Thanks, I'll look for related info ....

I've heard of both of these boot loaders, but have experience with
neither ....

Currently using the default LILO installation ....


Something else, I forgot to mention
in an earlier reply is that the
Open Office verion that is included
with the MDK 10 install I have
is in Italian ....

Not sure how that happened ....

Will it have to be re-installed
or is there a language switch ????

I use 9.2 and in rpmdrake Software install it says this:
Name: OpenOffice.org-l10n-it
Version: 1.1-0.rc4.2mdk
Size: 8037 KB

Summary: Italian language support for OpenOffice.org.

Description: OpenOffice.org is an Open Source, community-developed, office suite.

This package contains the localization of OpenOffice.org in Italian.
It contains the user interface, the templates and the autotext features.
Please note that not all of these are available for all possible language.
You can switch user interface language using the standard locales system.
 
Thanks, I'll look for related info ....

I've heard of both of these boot loaders, but have experience with
neither ....

Currently using the default LILO installation ....


Something else, I forgot to mention
in an earlier reply is that the
Open Office verion that is included
with the MDK 10 install I have
is in Italian ....

Not sure how that happened ....

Will it have to be re-installed
or is there a language switch ????

Open Office > Tools > Options > Language Settings > Languages > English
Open Office > Lingue Delle Regolazioni Di Lingua Di Opzioni Degli Attrezzi
Inglesi (I think)
I'm not sure if you have to uninstall OpenOffice-IT after
 
What System Commander does is allow you to select each OS individually in
its menu and then specify that the specific OS can see partitions a, b,
c and that x, y, z are hidden for that OS. Pretty sure that
Lilo can't do that. Never used grub so I'll read the documentation for
that.

Look here for an example of what LILO can do:
http://www.wwnet.net/~stevelim/booting.html

Swap drives per OS, deactivate and reactivate partitions, and hide and
unhide partitions.

Not an easy configuration task, admittedly - probably a lot easier
with an interactive boot manager, but LILO can do it.
 
On Fri, 28 May 2004 11:41:03 -0700, Cousin Stanley wrote:

I'll answer/comment in-line as some links may be of more general interest
but I've aent you an email so you can follow up off group.

Also have a look at http://www.thebrix.org.uk/ You'll find more Mandrake
repositories there than you'll know what to do with! Be careful, you can
end up with so many sources listed it becomes a nightmare to keep updated
Found a reference to easyurpmi over in alt.os.linux.mandrake,

a.o.l.m. is the best Mandrake info source but has a very high traffic
level (higher than a.c.f.) and regretably has a high level of
trolls/buffoons crossposting flame bait to start very long and very boring
threads on the relative merits of Windows/Linux. In addition there a
number of knowledgeable but arrogant twats who will leap in with "do a
google or rtfm" at the first opportunity.
and managed to get it configured and working on the 2nd try with a
different ftp server than CPAN ....

Since the 1st try failed, I used urpmi.removemedia -a , which cleared
*everything* out ....

Yep, been there, done that!

Mandrake moved it's development model to a cooker > community > official
system and screwed up the mirroring system big time! It's only now
beginning to get straightened out.

Have a look at http://www.acert.pt/~fribeiro/mirrorwatch/ (and the links
on the top left hand corner of the page) for a continously updated check
on the status of various mirrors.


How are the designations for the first 3 install CDs coded when adding
them back ????

urpmi.addmedia main ----cdrom1 , cdrom2 , cdrom3---- with ../????

It's easier to use the gui "Software Media Manager" (meaning I can't
remember the command line sysntax at the moment!). Select add source,
select removeable device and point it to /mnt/cdrom. Leave the "relative
path" blank and generally urpmi.addmedia is smart enough to walk the
directory tree and find the hdlist.cz itself. If you start with the first
CD that should have all the hdlist.cz files on it. Last time I zapped the
system I just called them CD1, CD2, CD3 but you can really call them what
you want.

The software package manger/installer is impressive and seems to
work well with the limited experience that I have with it ....

It's amazing what you can do with perl! It's a hell of a lot easier than
trying to remember esoteric rpm command line switches.

Thanks for the link ....

Currently, I don't feel the need to search out too many equivalents as
I've found most of the basics : browser, mail/news , editor, etc. but
I'm sure I'll check later ...

<snip>

The link above (http://www.thebrix.org.uk/) will give you lots more
software to play with!
However, I'm experiencing too many time-out problems when surfing
to web-sites that I never had with my previous aDSL internal modem
....

For example, [ google.com | alltheweb.com | python.org ] all
time-out regularly ....

I think I remember tweaking some time-out settings, but can't
remember where or how or how to find them again ....

Also tried getting to dslreports.com to look for tune-ups, but it
timed-out too ....

Don't have much experierience there to help. The Linux Documentation
Project (www.tldp.org) may have stuff that would help.


However, I'm not sure how to config KMail to deal with HotMail
addresses ....

I have HTML connection strings that work with Outlook Express, but
haven't tried them with KMail as yet ....

Also, haven't been able to check my regular eMail box through my ISP,
because the connection appears to be timing-out ....

Got to fix these time-out problems ....

As noted, can't help with the time out problems. But Hotmail ......

Couple of solutions. Try Gotmail
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/gotmail/)
(http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gotmail/gotmail-0.8.1-1.noarch.rpm)
it's a perl script to pull mail from a hotmail account

or better try hotwayd
http://hotwayd.sourceforge.net/

This runs as a daemon, kmail/evolution or whatever connects to hotwayd and
then hotwayd trots off and pulls the emails down from hotmail. Full info
in the faq on the site. You should find it in your software sources if
you've added a "contrib" mirror. (i.e. "urpmi hotwayd" in a console should
pull it and install for you). Don't bother with the companion hotsmtpd
program. Even though there is a Mandrake rpm it don't work and never will.
Not until Mandrake compile the SASL libs properly anyway. I don't use my
hotmail account enough to be bothered about it but I'll get around to
recompiling the Cyrus-SASL libs with the correct authentication options
some time. One of Mandrakes idiosyncratic decisions - like compiling the
pan newsreader without the spellchecker! Keeps you on your toes.
And thanks to you Gordon for ....

o providing useful information to me with regard
to these particular problems

o your on-going effort to provide useful freeware links
and support information here in ACF ....

You are welcome. Hope all the above helps. As noted will also email you
directly.

Good luck
Gordon
 
Look here for an example of what LILO can do:
http://www.wwnet.net/~stevelim/booting.html

Swap drives per OS, deactivate and reactivate partitions, and hide and
unhide partitions.

Not an easy configuration task, admittedly - probably a lot easier
with an interactive boot manager, but LILO can do it.

Thanks for this. It's a heck of a lot easier to follow than "man lilo"!!!

I've made a copy of it for future reference.

Regards
Gordon
 
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