Magenta won't print after a refill

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The magenta in my colour cartridge ran out last week, and I refilled it last
night. I have the HP 1350, its the 57 cartridge. My other colours were ok,
didn't need to refill them yet. This cartridge was also refilled by an ink
refill shop last year.

I only used maybe 2ml of ink. I can draw the ink out, but when I print, it
starts ok but fades out, as shown in the images below.
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/3705/magenta16zc.jpg
The yellow-magenta-yellow is suppose to be yellow, magenta, red.

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/4382/magenta25yg.jpg


Ink is not getting drawn down to the header, I am not sure why. Any
suggestions?

Thanks
 
Brad said:
The magenta in my colour cartridge ran out last week, and I refilled it last
night. I have the HP 1350, its the 57 cartridge. My other colours were ok,
didn't need to refill them yet. This cartridge was also refilled by an ink
refill shop last year.

I only used maybe 2ml of ink. I can draw the ink out, but when I print, it
starts ok but fades out, as shown in the images below.
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/3705/magenta16zc.jpg
The yellow-magenta-yellow is suppose to be yellow, magenta, red.

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/4382/magenta25yg.jpg


Ink is not getting drawn down to the header, I am not sure why. Any
suggestions?

Thanks
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Dave mentioned vent hole which is a good thing to check. Two other observations:

1) Sometimes if you've run the cartridge particularly low before refilling it
just takes time for the ink to settle to the bottom and begin flowing properly.
I occasionally have spotty printing after a refill, but it looks fine the next day.

2) Did you try letting the ink wick out into a paper towel for awhile? That
helps force the flow initially.

Bill
 
Bill said:
Brad P wrote:


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Dave mentioned vent hole which is a good thing to check. Two other observations:

1) Sometimes if you've run the cartridge particularly low before refilling it
just takes time for the ink to settle to the bottom and begin flowing properly.
I occasionally have spotty printing after a refill, but it looks fine the next day.

2) Did you try letting the ink wick out into a paper towel for awhile? That
helps force the flow initially.

Bill
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IF YOU BOUGHT A HP CART YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THIS TROUBLE.
 
Thanks for the replies.

First, it is in fact a original HP cartridge.

Second, I did try to drain some ink using a paper towel and it worked, but
the same results occured as in the images. Started to print but went dry
again.

Third, didn't know about vents. Will check.

Forth, I let the cartridge sit all last night but same result this morning.

Will try the vents. Also found a useful site in the process
http://www.oddparts.com/ink/hp57.htm

Thanks again
 
The 57 cartridge is prone to this fading out problem after a couple of
refills if the cartridge isn't 'rested' for several hours before trying a
large printout. Once it's started this fading business, it seems to carry
on doing it. However, all is not lost, blowing through the vents is what's
required.
I've fixed a couple of 57's that had exactly this problem with this
method..........

Refill again (slowly), take out 1/2ml, dunk the head in 1/2" very hot (not
boiling) water for 10 minutes, blot on dry tissue until all 3 inks flow
evenly or as good as it's going to get. Tape over the refill holes apart
from 1 at a time and blow through each just enough to get a surge of ink x3
out of the head onto the tissue. Dab again on tissue until the ink flow is
evenly matched with all 3 colours and then reinsert the cartridge into the
printer. Now just print a miniscule amount of each colour to make sure most
jets are working. Don't run any cleaning cycles. Leave the printer unused
for the next 12-24 hrs. After that it should work OK if it's ever going to,
the most you should have wrong is a couple of jets not flowing and a
cleaning cycle should sort that.
 
Brad said:
The magenta in my colour cartridge ran out last week, and I refilled it last
night. I have the HP 1350, its the 57 cartridge. My other colours were ok,
didn't need to refill them yet. This cartridge was also refilled by an ink
refill shop last year.

I only used maybe 2ml of ink. I can draw the ink out, but when I print, it
starts ok but fades out, as shown in the images below.
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/3705/magenta16zc.jpg
The yellow-magenta-yellow is suppose to be yellow, magenta, red.

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/4382/magenta25yg.jpg


Ink is not getting drawn down to the header, I am not sure why. Any
suggestions?

Thanks
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Exactly what happened with my 78 cartridge. But
all may not be lost.

My first refill of a 78 cartridge went smoothly
because I refilled before it went empty. The
second refill was not as good because I put
pigmented black in the cyan chamber. Realizing
the problem immediately, I pulled as much out as
possible, then added cyan, and pulled it out (to
rinse the chamber) and added more cyan. I let it
sit until it quit weeping; it bled a lot of cyan
ink. Then I put the cartridge in the printer and
got streaks, cleaned it, medium cleaned it, and
then deep cleaned it and it was ok. If the
printer was not used for a few days, it would
print with streaks, but would clear on the second
picture.

Finally it ran out ink again (of cyan of course)
and I refilled it. I noted that the cyan chamber
in particular seemed to have a fairly hard sponge
and figured that might reduced the capacity some.
The cartridge dripped a lot after filling and
when it had nearly stopped, I put it the printer
which printed a very bad test, so I cleaned it,
another poor test print, medium cleaned it and
the test was generally ok. I printed a 1 page
year calender with small picture and the first
three were small pictures were ok and the rest
showed a lack of cyan. I did this several times
and every time the first row was generally ok, so
I knew ink was there but it just wasn't moving
fast enough toward the head. I assume that the
capacity had been reduce by my mess up with the
black pigmented ink. So I, gave up and went to
bed. The next evening I prepared to mess with the
cartridge again to see if could get it to work
(more vent, more ink, etc.) Before I took the
cartridge out, I printed the calendar and
everything was fine.

My conclusion was that the main problem was an air
bubble near the head that caused the problem and
it was slowly absorbed over a 20 hour period. I
still believe that the capacity of the sponge. If
I were you I would let the cartridge sit for a
couple of days and then try it. If blotting the
print head shows a good ink pattern, the problem
is not lack of ink or a clogged head. And, trying
to print without ink flowing through the head can
result in the heat chambers being damaged.
 
ONE GETS WHAT THEY DESERVE. YOU ASKED FOR TROUBLE AND GOT IT. TO
CORRECT THE PROBLEM GO TO A STORE AND BUY A NEW GENUINE *OVERPRICED *HP
CART AND YOU CAN THEN FOCUS ON WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING INSTEAD OF THIS.
 
Brad P said:
Thanks for the replies.

First, it is in fact a original HP cartridge.

Second, I did try to drain some ink using a paper towel and it worked, but
the same results occured as in the images. Started to print but went dry
again.

Third, didn't know about vents. Will check.

Forth, I let the cartridge sit all last night but same result this
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morning.

I've occasionally had that problem with other HP carts like the 43. I
usually manage to get them working by leaving them to stand overnight but
sometimes more drastic action is needed...

Wrapping cart in tissue. Put in plastic bag nozzles down. Put in second bag
nozzles down. Twirl it round so centrifugal force pushes the ink down.
 
IN MANY YEARS WITH HP PRINTERS I ONLY HAD ONE BAD CART AND THAT WAS
REPLACED FREE OF CHARGE.
 
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