Lost XP, now do I buy FULL or Upgrade version

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Don

due to stupidity, I destroyed XP home on PC I bought. no
backup CDs or anything, LONG story of how it happened.
Anyway, now do I buy the FULL version or can I just buy an
upgraded version? PC now only wants a boot disk installed
in it....I think I need the full version to get all the
necessary discs and all. any opinions?
 
If you have a previous version of Windows 98, Windows 98 SE or Windows ME,
then you can go for the upgrade (I think that the installation will ask you
for the old windows cd). Otherwise, you'll need the full version to install
windows again.

You can maybe ask the support for help if you still have the license key and
everything...

// Chen
 
Whoever sold the PC with XP installed was responsible for also ensuring you
had the XP CDs as they are required to transfer the license to you and all
disks. So you might want to contact them and inform them of your rights. If
this was a new PC that was purchased from a distributor then they are
required to provide you with a way to reinstall the operating system.
Contact them are demand the Recovery CDs or Windows XP CD that should have
came with the system.

If you have the Product Key for XP and this was a retail (not OEM version)
then you can contact Microsoft and they might replace the CD for a nominal
fee http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;171931

If there is a sticker on the PC that has a Windows XP Product Key on it then
this is an OEM Key and you will need to contact the distributor for a
replacement.

Finally if you can't get satisfaction as above then yes you will need to
purchase a new version. An OEM version of Windows XP Home Edition can be
purchased from places like Tigerdirect.com
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=306
for under $100
 
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Don said:
due to stupidity, I destroyed XP home on PC I bought. no
backup CDs or anything, LONG story of how it happened.
Anyway, now do I buy the FULL version or can I just buy an
upgraded version? PC now only wants a boot disk installed
in it....I think I need the full version to get all the
necessary discs and all. any opinions?



You shouldn't need to buy anything. Is this a computer that came
with XP pre-installed on it? Did it not come with a CD?

OEM vendors are required by their agreement with Microsoft to
give you a means of reinstalling, should it be necessary. They
can do this in one of three ways:

1. An OEM copy of a Windows CD
2. A restore CD
3. A hidden partition on your drive, with restore information.

If you don't have 1 or 2, you should have 3, but you should
contact your vendor to find out.

Worst case, if you have to buy a copy, do you have an
installation CD for Windows 95, 98, 98SE, or Me? If so you can
buy and use an Upgrade version. The requirement to use an upgrade
version is to *own* a previous qualifying version's installation
CD (not an OEM restore CD), not to have it installed. When setup
doesn't find a previous qualifying version installed, it will
prompt you to insert its CD as proof of ownership. Just insert
the previous version's CD, and follow the prompts. Everything
proceeds quite normally and quite legitimately.

If you don't have such a CD, yes, you'll need a Full version (or
a generic OEM version, if you buy some hardware with it).
 
Don said:
due to stupidity, I destroyed XP home on PC I bought. no
backup CDs or anything, LONG story of how it happened.
Anyway, now do I buy the FULL version or can I just buy an
upgraded version? PC now only wants a boot disk installed
in it....I think I need the full version to get all the
necessary discs and all. any opinions?

I think this guy is lying, this excuse seems the same as below, but the
excuse is slightly different.

From the newusers group:
 
thanks for all answers. I did post on 2 places about this,
as I did not know who would see/answer where it was. wife
got pc for son at yard sale friend was having when they
moved, that is why not much with it except some game cds.
[also did not get a power supply for a cheap scanner she
got at a yard sale, but THAT is another story...]
PC has the product code # on the side, but as not being
the original owner I guess I am not eligibe for its
rights . I will buy a new copy---so what is the
difference between OEM and FULL retail version? also,
should I wait until maybe sometime in July when the XP 2nd
service pack comes out or get one now?
 
You can always download XP SP2 on windowsupdate. :-)

The biggest differences between the OEM and full retail version is that OEM
doesn't have the nice, goodlooking box, and have no support from Microsoft
(unless you are going to pay a lot).

// Chen
 
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Chen said:
Upgrade is not available for Windows 95... At least, according to MS
:-).


It *is* true that you can not upgrade to Windows XP over the top
of a Windows 95 installation. Nevertheless, what I said below is
correct: a Windows 95 CD works as a qualifying previous version
when doing a clean installation of Windows XP with an Upgrade
version.
 
Oh, alright... Didn't know that. :-)

// Chen

Ken Blake said:
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It *is* true that you can not upgrade to Windows XP over the top
of a Windows 95 installation. Nevertheless, what I said below is
correct: a Windows 95 CD works as a qualifying previous version
when doing a clean installation of Windows XP with an Upgrade
version.
 
An OEM Product Key goes with the computer that it was used to install XP on.
As the owner of the computer the key is yours. It might work with another
OEM XP CD providing it is the same version of XP that the key was used with
(OEM Home or OEM Pro)
 
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Chen said:
Oh, alright... Didn't know that. :-)


Not a problem. Microsoft doesn't make it clear (it may even have
been unintentional), so many people don't know it.
 
Greetings --

There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:

1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.

2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.

3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.

4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the
open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets,
or computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until
it's too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
restrictions.


Bruce Chambers
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having both at once. - RAH


DON said:
thanks for all answers. I did post on 2 places about this,
as I did not know who would see/answer where it was. wife
got pc for son at yard sale friend was having when they
moved, that is why not much with it except some game cds.
[also did not get a power supply for a cheap scanner she
got at a yard sale, but THAT is another story...]
PC has the product code # on the side, but as not being
the original owner I guess I am not eligibe for its
rights . I will buy a new copy---so what is the
difference between OEM and FULL retail version? also,
should I wait until maybe sometime in July when the XP 2nd
service pack comes out or get one now?
 
....
It *is* true that you can not upgrade to Windows XP over the top
of a Windows 95 installation. Nevertheless, what I said below is
correct: a Windows 95 CD works as a qualifying previous version
when doing a clean installation of Windows XP with an Upgrade
version.
....

FINALLY! Someone put it in words I can understand (or was
ready to accept)! It clarifies SO many inconsistancies, and
matches experience.

Thanks for the info, Ken

Regards,
Pop
 
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Pop said:
...
...

FINALLY! Someone put it in words I can understand (or was
ready to accept)! It clarifies SO many inconsistancies, and
matches experience.

Thanks for the info, Ken


You're welcome. Glad to help.
 
Chen said:
You can always download XP SP2 on windowsupdate. :-)

The biggest differences between the OEM and full retail version is
that OEM doesn't have the nice, goodlooking box, and have no support
from Microsoft (unless you are going to pay a lot).

// Chen

DON said:
thanks for all answers. I did post on 2 places about this,
as I did not know who would see/answer where it was. wife
got pc for son at yard sale friend was having when they
moved, that is why not much with it except some game cds.
[also did not get a power supply for a cheap scanner she
got at a yard sale, but THAT is another story...]
PC has the product code # on the side, but as not being
the original owner I guess I am not eligibe for its
rights . I will buy a new copy---so what is the
difference between OEM and FULL retail version? also,
should I wait until maybe sometime in July when the XP 2nd
service pack comes out or get one now?

Another big difference between OEM and Retail versions of XP is that an OEM
is not eligible to be moved to a new computer in the event that the computer
the OEM is originally installed on dies or is transferred to a different
person

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