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Bill
The best anti-virus is not to use Windows. Go Linux and save yourself the
headache.
headache.
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FromTheRafters
gaa gaa goo goo.
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VanguardLH
Bill said:
The Linux folks really don't appreciate such idiot proselytizers of
their choice in an OS. You insult Linux with your flame post and
engender no one using Windows to spend time reviewing alternatives.
Grow up, or wait until your testicles drop before posting.
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Bill
I am the "Linux folks" and wasn't flaming anyone. Perhaps you should
Google the term "flaming" and get a clue as to it's definition.
And for those not familiar with Linux, you may go to the download link
below to download the latest version of Ubuntu, or order a free CD. It is
probably the easiest distro for new users. Alternately, you can use the
WUBI installer to seamlessly install Ubuntu on your Windows partition,
giving you the option of booting into either OS and if desired you can
remove Ubuntu via the Windows Add/Remove programs feature.
Ubuntu website
http://www.ubuntu.com/
WUBI installer for Windows
http://wubi-installer.org/
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Virus Guy
Bill said:
Then why do all those apache web servers get hacked so easily?
And you're forgetting that Windows 98 is relatively invulnerable to a
lot of malware that's been circulating for the past few years. More so
even than Linux systems.
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FromTheRafters
Bill said:
That's really sad...
If you had any idea what you were talking about, you wouldn't have made
such a stupid statement about security against "viruses".
Your statement was infantile.
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Bill
Yeah, right.
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Bill
I'm waiting for your brilliant explanation as to how Windows malware
affects a Linux desktop.
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FromTheRafters
Bill said:
I'll give it a go...
The more Windows malware there is in existence, the better a Linux
desktop looks to those wishing to avoid malware in general.
This does not mean Linux is any more secure against malware than Windows
is, nor does it mean the reverse.
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David H. Lipman
From: "FromTheRafters" <[email protected]>
| I'll give it a go...
| The more Windows malware there is in existence, the better a Linux
| desktop looks to those wishing to avoid malware in general.
| This does not mean Linux is any more secure against malware than Windows
| is, nor does it mean the reverse.
I could come up with a scenario with either MAC or PC affecting Linux.
Say there is a SOHO LAN behind a SOHO Router. Either the MAC or PC are infiected with a
DNSChanger Trojan and the SOHO Router has not been secured. The SOHO Routers DNS table is
then altered to 85.255.x.y addresses. If all nodes are getting the DNS from the SOHO
Router then any DNS query made on the Linux box (MAC or PC) is affected and poisoned by
the malcious DNS redirections.
| I'll give it a go...
| The more Windows malware there is in existence, the better a Linux
| desktop looks to those wishing to avoid malware in general.
| This does not mean Linux is any more secure against malware than Windows
| is, nor does it mean the reverse.
I could come up with a scenario with either MAC or PC affecting Linux.
Say there is a SOHO LAN behind a SOHO Router. Either the MAC or PC are infiected with a
DNSChanger Trojan and the SOHO Router has not been secured. The SOHO Routers DNS table is
then altered to 85.255.x.y addresses. If all nodes are getting the DNS from the SOHO
Router then any DNS query made on the Linux box (MAC or PC) is affected and poisoned by
the malcious DNS redirections.
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Virus Guy
Bill said:
It's what you didn't quote that's notable:
"Then why do all those apache web servers get hacked so easily?"
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Bill
Who said they do?
B
Bill
Answer? Don't use a Mac or PC.
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FromTheRafters
Bill said:
That won't help you once the poisoning is done. If Windows malware
allows the information you get delivered to your Linux box to be
manipulated - you (Linux user) are "affected" by that malware.
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David W. Hodgins
Since all updates for the linux system are signed using public key
encryption, the damage will be limited to data capture.
That can easily be avoided by manually entering the dns addresses
in the linux system, rather then using the dhcp supplied addresses.
In addition, all routers should have the default admin user name,
password, and gateway ip address changed to values other then the
defaults. Also, upnp should be turned off, and forwarding for
p2p software, etc., manually setup.
Network security has to be applied, regardless of the operating
systems used in the computers.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
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Dustin Cook
As can windows.
Not that it matters.Agreed, as usual.
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Shadow
So true. 7 years with windows 98 and not a single virus. XP,
and on my third, in two years. That's because I installed Kerio 215
before hooking up the internet. Kept the blaster types out.
[]'s
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Shadow
Wine. You don't need direct hardware access for a trojan. Just
something that posts your mail/addresses etc to the net. And
wine/trojan has that capacity.
Low level (assembler, direct access) viruses are much harder
to program for linux. But are rather rare these days.
[]'s
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Shadow
Our local lan boots from a CD every day, and when he switches
off at night, the virus/malware disappears ..... need a lot of ram
though.
[]'s
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Shadow said:
How is a trojan in Wine going to find my email addresses? The only thing
I run in Wine is this newsreader (and no email is configured).