Looking for a lightweight HTML editor

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Ioannis Panteleon

Hi,

due to a head crash, I lost some valuable programs. Among those a
small HTML editor with syntax highlighting. Stupidly I have forgotten
the name and the website where I found it.
I think the coder was of Russian origin. His site contained also some
XML-applications, a treelike code database and graphics utilities.
Also I remember, that his programs were not listed in many of the big
freeware sites.

Perhaps somebody has an idea and can point me to the right website.

TIA
Iannis
 
(e-mail address removed) (Ioannis Panteleon) wrote in
Hi,

due to a head crash, I lost some valuable programs. Among those a
small HTML editor with syntax highlighting. Stupidly I have forgotten
the name and the website where I found it.
I think the coder was of Russian origin. His site contained also some
XML-applications, a treelike code database and graphics utilities.
Also I remember, that his programs were not listed in many of the big
freeware sites.

Perhaps somebody has an idea and can point me to the right website.


Perhaps Codra ? Available here:

http://www.headoff.com/?p=ftp&v_path=/Software/KaufmanAlex/
 
(e-mail address removed) (Ioannis Panteleon) wrote in
Hi,

due to a head crash, I lost some valuable programs. Among those a
small HTML editor with syntax highlighting. Stupidly I have forgotten
the name and the website where I found it.
I think the coder was of Russian origin. His site contained also some
XML-applications, a treelike code database and graphics utilities.
Also I remember, that his programs were not listed in many of the big
freeware sites.

Perhaps somebody has an idea and can point me to the right website.

Maybe Codra by russian Alex Kaufman, it's small with syntax highlighting
and it's available here:

http://www.geocities.com/kaufmansoft/
 
I think the coder was of Russian origin. His site contained also some
XML-applications, a treelike code database and graphics utilities.
Also I remember, that his programs were not listed in many of the big
freeware sites.

Not sure about the Russian part, but it sounds like you might be describing
www.jansfreeware.com

M
 
Not sure about the Russian part, but it sounds like you might be
describing www.jansfreeware.com

M

Thanks for Your suggestions,
but the app was neither from A. Kaufman nor from the incredible
Jansfreeware. Both sites I knew for some years. As I said, the software
of this person was not widely spread on the net. Perhaps his site is
already gone again. I found it in spring this year.

Does anyone have any additional idea.
 
(e-mail address removed) (Ioannis Panteleon):
due to a head crash, I lost some valuable programs. Among those a
small HTML editor with syntax highlighting. Stupidly I have forgotten
the name and the website where I found it.
I think the coder was of Russian origin. His site contained also some
XML-applications, a treelike code database and graphics utilities.
Also I remember, that his programs were not listed in many of the big
freeware sites.

Perhaps somebody has an idea and can point me to the right website.

The single fit I can come up with is zeraha.org.

nPad - editor with syntax highlighting
CodeBank - treelike code database
XMLPad
ImageScaler

http://www.zeraha.org/content/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=1

Since there are such a great number of
HTML:
 editors with syntax
highlighting, I narrowed down my considerations to the much smaller
category of treelike code database. This was the only author I could
think of who made a program like that, then as well a program of the
other types.

However, that's only one prog he has of each type, as opposed to what
you described - plurality of XML apps and graphic utilities.

So, for my part, I might have to let your riddle go unsolved...
 
(e-mail address removed) (Ioannis Panteleon):

http://www.zeraha.org/content/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=1

However, that's only one prog he has of each type, as opposed to what
you described - plurality of XML apps and graphic utilities.

So, for my part, I might have to let your riddle go unsolved...

My,
thank You so much! zeraha.org was the place. The waybackmachine brought
also the original design of the page, as I remembered it.

But of course You are right: My memory was not correct about the number of
XML and graphics apps. Furthermore the author is not of Russian origin, he
is Bulgarian. It's a shame, I definitely need some memory training ;)

Thanks again,
Iannis
 
Ioannis A. Panteleon said:
My,
thank You so much! zeraha.org was the place. The waybackmachine brought
also the original design of the page, as I remembered it.

Good news! I'm glad half for you, and then half for me. For me, it's
because I kept struggling on the riddle. I gave up several times. I even
went so far as to delete your messages to make myself stop thinking about
it. And then tiptoed back to (retrieving the thread anew) to try again.
But of course You are right: My memory was not correct about the number of
XML and graphics apps. Furthermore the author is not of Russian origin, he
is Bulgarian. It's a shame, I definitely need some memory training ;)

On the memory department, my assets there, well, it's almost a negative
balance. What I did have available instead, it's a large amount of
categorized freeware on disk. And as mentioned, the key was in your
info that the author who made the syntax editor -- had made a treelike
codebank app, and then as well programs related to XML and to graphics.

About the app you were looking for, nPad. I haven't used it for any
projects, but have taken a look. One thing I appreciate right off is
that a green app (clean of external file or registry writes, with user
settings stored in local file in its own directory). Also seems pretty
lightweight.

The note I'd had for its drawback, it was that there was no way to set
wordwrap on as a persistent preference, between launches. I suppose that's
not a big deal, if using it for html, and prefer to toggle. But it would
be a serious inconvenience if, for instance, let it integrate into system
for opening text files.

My copy of nPad, it's from April 2004. When I checked the site, I did
see that there is a very recently updated version available for download.
Did you observe anything notable in the way of nPad's recent changes?
 
About the app you were looking for, nPad. I haven't used it for any
projects, but have taken a look. One thing I appreciate right off is
that a green app (clean of external file or registry writes, with user
settings stored in local file in its own directory). Also seems pretty
lightweight.

I am using it solely as source viewer in browsers. If I do something huge
complex in html, I use phase5 and for small changes the simple remotepad
(http://hamsterrepublic.com/).
The note I'd had for its drawback, it was that there was no way to set
wordwrap on as a persistent preference, between launches. I suppose
that's not a big deal, if using it for html, and prefer to toggle. But
it would be a serious inconvenience if, for instance, let it integrate
into system for opening text files.

In the version currently available for download, the state of wordwrap is
saved to the config. file.
I like about this program that it is green, as You said, and its clear
interface. Though the new version is no longer really lightweigt (800 kb),
it still starts very quickly.

bye,
iannis
 
[re nPad from zeraha.org]
I am using it solely as source viewer in browsers.

I've interviewed many editors for that role. Even the best candidates, there
has been some turn-over, each in turn beeing hired and fired. My priorities
for the browser view-source editor:

1. lightweight & fast-loading (!most important)
2. min-to-zero registry writes
3. pretty syntax colors
4. wordwrap toggle
5. no major annoyances

My best candidates, they have each in turn been hired and then fired.
Thank your for the idea of nPad there. It sure looks to qualify, so
I'm going to configure it for that.
If I do something huge complex in html, I use phase5 and for small changes
the simple remotepad (http://hamsterrepublic.com/).

I took a quick look at remotepad. But the lack of context-menu on an
editor, that's something, for me, which is a flat deal-breaker. (I get
a fingernails-across-chalkboard sensation, when get nada on that click.)
In the version currently available for download, the state of wordwrap is
saved to the config. file.

Thanks for the info. I've downloaded, and am going to set it up today.
I like about this program that it is green, as You said, and its clear
interface. Though the new version is no longer really lightweigt (800 kb),
it still starts very quickly.

Starting quickly is an essential factor. As to the exe size, that's still
better than the majority -- at least if comparison is within the class of
editors with syntax highlighting, where common size is closer to the 2mb+
range.

Also on editors, I've noticed that the big majority lie about their weight
anyway, by being shipped in compressed form.

On this, I noticed that nPad gave the end-user a choice, whether to
download a UPX'ed executable, or one that is at its natural size. I
didn't do that download, but note that doing a UPX command, default
options, on the nPad.exe, that brings it down to 320k.

(Not that I'd take the choice to run packed (eg UPX'ed) instances of an
editor. Bringing that up just for the sake of fair compare against those
editors that try to look thin by being distributed in the packed form.)
 
"Ioannis A. Panteleon" <[email protected]>:

[ nPad, http://www.zeraha.org/content/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=1]
I am using it solely as source viewer in browsers.

I've interviewed many editors for that role. Even the best candidates,
there has been some turn-over, each in turn being hired and fired. My
priorities for the browser view-source editor:

1. lightweight & fast-loading (!most important)
2. min-to-zero registry writes
3. pretty syntax colors
4. wordwrap toggle
5. no major annoyances

Thank your for the idea of nPad there. It sure looks to qualify, so I'm
going to configure it for that, and give it a go.
If I do something huge complex in html, I use phase5 and for small changes
the simple remotepad (http://hamsterrepublic.com/).

I took a quick look at remotepad. But the lack of context-menu on an
editor, that's something, for me, which is a flat deal-breaker. (I get
a fingernails-across-chalkboard sensation, when get nada on that click.)
In the version currently available for download, the state of wordwrap is
saved to the config. file.

Thanks for the info. I've downloaded, and am going to set it up today.
I like about this program that it is green, as You said, and its clear
interface. Though the new version is no longer really lightweigt (800 kb),
it still starts very quickly.

Starting quickly is an essential factor. As to the exe size, that's
still better than the majority -- at least if comparison is within the
class of editors with syntax highlighting, where common size is closer
to the 2mb range.

Also on editors, I've noticed that the big majority lie about their
weight anyway, by being shipped in compressed form.

On this, I noticed that nPad gave the end-user a choice, whether to
download a UPX'ed executable, or one that is at its natural size. I
didn't do that download, but note that doing a UPX command, default
options, on the nPad.exe, that brings it down to 320k.

(Not that I'd take the choice to run packed, eg UPX'ed, instances of an
editor. Bringing that up just for the sake of fair compare against those
editors that try to look thin by being distributed in the packed form.)
 
[ nPad, www.zeraha.org, http://tinyurl.com/3kxuh ]
I am using it solely as source viewer in browsers.

There's evidently a bug in the latest v2.313. I get an error, both when
it's set up for Kmeleon, as well as for the global MSIE setting[*].

The popup error message, which requires click before proceed, it says
"could not allocate notification object." The earlier v2.112 (April 2004),
it does not have that bug, and works fine with the browsers I tested.

I don't much take to dealing with web boards, etc, so will not spend time
there trying to discuss w the author his investigating this now. The course
I think I'll pursue towards a working solution, it'll be to test out the
intermediary versions.

______
* [HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\View Source Editor\Editor Name]
 
[update]
[ nPad, www.zeraha.org, http://tinyurl.com/3kxuh ]
I am using it solely as source viewer in browsers.

There's evidently a bug in the latest v2.313. I get an error, both when
it's set up for Kmeleon, as well as for the global MSIE setting[*].

The popup error message, which requires click before proceed, it says
"could not allocate notification object." The earlier v2.112 (April 2004),
it does not have that bug, and works fine with the browsers I tested.

I don't much take to dealing with web boards, etc, so will not spend time
there trying to discuss w the author his investigating this now. The course
I think I'll pursue towards a working solution, it'll be to test out the
intermediary versions.

Eck, not exist, an intermediary version. Thus, if use as a view-source
editor for browsers, it seems best to go with the older v2.112. (At least
until there is a new release, without the bug.)
 
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