Looking at New Asus board- Some feedback please??

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I have always been happy and very satisfied with Asus motherboards. I have
always ran Intel processors because AMD just didn't seem up to par. Now I ma
hearing from many that AMD is just as good as Intel and in some cases maybe
even better. So I am thinking about upgrading once again. Currently I have
an Asus CUV4X-E motherboard with an Intel P3 chip and 512mb of ram with a
MSI GeForce 3 Ti 200 128ddr video card. I use my machine a lot for gaming,
cad, and graphics. What I am thinking about getting is the Asus A7N8X-E
Deluxe (link: http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/asus-a7n8x/). With
this I am going to include an AMD Barton 2800+ with a Volcano fan and then
to start, 1 stick of Kingston 512mb DDR 400 ram. So what I want to know is
what do folks here think of this board? Will I be very satisfied as I was
with Intel based boards? With what I do, will I notice any speed compared to
what I have now. I know my current CPU is rather old and all, but it does
fly the way I have it configured under MS Win XP Pro. Any and all feedback
would be appreciated. Thanks and look forward to learning from this group.
 
Mark G. said:
I have always been happy and very satisfied with Asus motherboards. I have
always ran Intel processors because AMD just didn't seem up to par. Now I ma
hearing from many that AMD is just as good as Intel and in some cases maybe
even better. So I am thinking about upgrading once again. Currently I have
an Asus CUV4X-E motherboard with an Intel P3 chip and 512mb of ram with a
MSI GeForce 3 Ti 200 128ddr video card. I use my machine a lot for gaming,
cad, and graphics. What I am thinking about getting is the Asus A7N8X-E
Deluxe (link: http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/asus-a7n8x/). With
this I am going to include an AMD Barton 2800+ with a Volcano fan and then
to start, 1 stick of Kingston 512mb DDR 400 ram. So what I want to know is
what do folks here think of this board? Will I be very satisfied as I was
with Intel based boards? With what I do, will I notice any speed compared to
what I have now. I know my current CPU is rather old and all, but it does
fly the way I have it configured under MS Win XP Pro. Any and all feedback
would be appreciated. Thanks and look forward to learning from this group.
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You're making a huge mistake. Get a P4P800 or P4C800 and a Pentium 4. You
won't regret it. Barton's are shit, by the way.
 
Can you tell me why? Asking for input?
Darkfalz said:
I compared group.

You're making a huge mistake. Get a P4P800 or P4C800 and a Pentium 4. You
won't regret it. Barton's are shit, by the way.
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Mark G. said:
I have always been happy and very satisfied with Asus motherboards. I have
always ran Intel processors because AMD just didn't seem up to par. Now I ma
hearing from many that AMD is just as good as Intel and in some cases maybe
even better. So I am thinking about upgrading once again. Currently I have
an Asus CUV4X-E motherboard with an Intel P3 chip and 512mb of ram with a
MSI GeForce 3 Ti 200 128ddr video card. I use my machine a lot for gaming,
cad, and graphics. What I am thinking about getting is the Asus A7N8X-E
Deluxe (link: http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/asus-a7n8x/). With
this I am going to include an AMD Barton 2800+ with a Volcano fan and then
to start, 1 stick of Kingston 512mb DDR 400 ram. So what I want to know is
what do folks here think of this board? Will I be very satisfied as I was
with Intel based boards? With what I do, will I notice any speed compared to
what I have now. I know my current CPU is rather old and all, but it does
fly the way I have it configured under MS Win XP Pro. Any and all feedback
would be appreciated. Thanks and look forward to learning from this group.
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Are you intending to overclock? If so, a Barton 2500 (preferably the mobile
version) should be better value.

I have had an Asus A7N8X de luxe for the past year. And it has been fine,
although it won't reach 200FSB.

I have decide to try out a DFI LanParty mobo plus a Barton 2500.
 
Mark said:
Can you tell me why? Asking for input?
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Darkfalz is a Intel zealot, I'll admit bias, but he perpetuates a myth
that AMD are always 'hotter' than Intel, or 'shit' as he puts it.

AMD used to have a problem with their reaction to heat, since they had
no on-cpu diode to measure heat, or at least none that motherboards
could read quickly enough, if you knock the Heatsink or the fan dies on
an older AMD, you run a very good risk of cooking it, before you have
enough time to react to the warning beeps and turn it off if your
operating under load (gaming, encoding etc)

That being said, todays AMD are not yesterdays, and for 64bit
home/desktop use, they are the front-runners in the 64bit world at the
moment (esp with linux support)
It boils down to:

Stability and Torque/speed in that order I would say, when it comes to
multimedia sound/video = Intel P4

Stability with Speed/Torque specially when it comes to 3d and gaming in
particular = AMD

There are areas where each shines, I encode video all the time, and to
look at the benchmarks out there, compared to the times I get on my P4,
I'm glad I didnt go amd.

[other side of the coin, I look at ut2003/4 benchmarks and sometimes
doubt....]

AMD was smart, they aimed for the home market, and the gamers, since
'gamers' as a whole account for a lot of $ in the market, and they were
the lifeblood AMD lived off of in the early years.

Its probably about as subjective a question as Mac vs x86 , they both
have strengths and weaknesses, if one was truly 'superior' they would
force the other out of the market, at least, thats how its SUPPOSED to work.
 
I have always been happy and very satisfied with Asus motherboards. I have
always ran Intel processors because AMD just didn't seem up to par. Now I ma
hearing from many that AMD is just as good as Intel and in some cases maybe
even better. So I am thinking about upgrading once again. Currently I have
an Asus CUV4X-E motherboard with an Intel P3 chip and 512mb of ram with a
MSI GeForce 3 Ti 200 128ddr video card. I use my machine a lot for gaming,
cad, and graphics. What I am thinking about getting is the Asus A7N8X-E
Deluxe (link: http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/asus-a7n8x/). With
this I am going to include an AMD Barton 2800+ with a Volcano fan and then
to start, 1 stick of Kingston 512mb DDR 400 ram. So what I want to know is
what do folks here think of this board? Will I be very satisfied as I was
with Intel based boards? With what I do, will I notice any speed compared to
what I have now. I know my current CPU is rather old and all, but it does
fly the way I have it configured under MS Win XP Pro. Any and all feedback
would be appreciated. Thanks and look forward to learning from this group.
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How much do you want to spend?

If you want something that screams, and since you are running Windows XP
prof, consider a DUAL CPU board. There is just nothing like running a
Dual CPU system when doing anything.

The ASUS PC-DL Deluxe board is $240
Two Xeon 2.4g 533 CPU's are $240 each

Uses standard RAM, uses ATA or SATA drives (even has dual RAID)...

If you use XP Prof you can make use of Hyper-threading and that would
give you 4 CPU's in the Performance tab on Task Manager, but it really
acts as about 2.8 CPU's in the real world.

Also, I would get Dual sticks of memory - a Dual set, depending on the
chipset used on the motherboard, will allow for page interleaving for
faster memory access.
 
reaching the 200 highly depends on your RAM....I had 2 sticksOCZ
[email protected] a 3rd..max was 175mhz....memtest86 showed errors so I
RMA'd it back, now I have 3@200x11 and can hit 210. And as for the
original..as everyone has said..each has it's own advantage...AMD definitely
has more bang for your buck..I have 2 AMD based PC's here..1 has an
A7N8X-Deluxe rev 2.0 the other a DFI AD77 Infinity RAID, bith Barton 2500's
...1@200x11(Asus) the othe 180x11(DFI).there is no heat issue..no
lock-ups(unless I cause it)
 
How much do you want to spend?

If you want something that screams, and since you are running Windows XP
prof, consider a DUAL CPU board. There is just nothing like running a
Dual CPU system when doing anything.

The ASUS PC-DL Deluxe board is $240
Two Xeon 2.4g 533 CPU's are $240 each

Uses standard RAM, uses ATA or SATA drives (even has dual RAID)...

If you use XP Prof you can make use of Hyper-threading and that would
give you 4 CPU's in the Performance tab on Task Manager, but it really
acts as about 2.8 CPU's in the real world.

Also, I would get Dual sticks of memory - a Dual set, depending on the
chipset used on the motherboard, will allow for page interleaving for
faster memory access.


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I am running the A7N8X-E with a Barton core XP3200+ and a matched pair
of corsair twin-x ram running in dual channel mode. The board has been
running 24hrs a day for the last few months and not a single problem.
 
I don't understand the advantage a P4C800 is going to have over the AMD
board except that it costs $110 more. 2 or 3 years ago, AMD would have left
a bad taste in my mouth, but now talking to sales reps whom sale both AMD
and Intel and also talking to friends, AMD seems to be able to perform or
hold it's own. Seems each our going to have their own unique bugs and
whatnot. So what I am concluding is that going with the AMD board would
probably make me fairly satisfied and would keep me going for the next 2-4
years? I am not one to upgrade 1-2 a year. Would also be easier on my
wallet. See, my first thought was that I heard of a lot of incompatibility
issues about 2-3 years ago with AMD and some of the games I liked to play.
Now I don't hear anything. So can anyone add anymore comments to this? Is
there an Intel board that can offer the same at the same price? Would all my
existing hardware and periphs work fine? The only complicated hard drive
issue I could see running into is the connection of my Minolta Scan Dual 3
film scanner. Anyone have one these on an AMD board? Thanks.
 
Mark G. said:
I have always been happy and very satisfied with Asus motherboards. I have
always ran Intel processors because AMD just didn't seem up to par. Now I ma
hearing from many that AMD is just as good as Intel and in some cases maybe
even better. So I am thinking about upgrading once again. Currently I have
an Asus CUV4X-E motherboard with an Intel P3 chip and 512mb of ram with a
MSI GeForce 3 Ti 200 128ddr video card. I use my machine a lot for gaming,
cad, and graphics. What I am thinking about getting is the Asus A7N8X-E
Deluxe (link: http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/asus-a7n8x/). With
this I am going to include an AMD Barton 2800+ with a Volcano fan and then
to start, 1 stick of Kingston 512mb DDR 400 ram. So what I want to know is
what do folks here think of this board? Will I be very satisfied as I was
with Intel based boards? With what I do, will I notice any speed compared to
what I have now. I know my current CPU is rather old and all, but it does
fly the way I have it configured under MS Win XP Pro. Any and all feedback
would be appreciated. Thanks and look forward to learning from this group.
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your choice is fine, its a great board, tho I'd think about getting 2
sticks of ram for dual channel ddr either 2x256 or 2x512
AMD is great for gamers
 
but now talking to sales reps whom sale both AMD
and Intel and also talking to friends, AMD seems to be able to perform or
hold it's own.
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The problem comes in talking with a SALES rep. What you have to decide
is what type of system you want and then you can decide what type of
architecture you purchase.

When I want a workstation or server I purchase Intel based system - they
have a proven track record, are 100% stable, and tend to have more R&D
money spent by the various motherboard manufacturers on them.

I have yet to see a workstation or server board that was unstable based
on the Intel platform.

On the other side, I hear great things from over-clockers and gamers
about the AMD systems.

I've started using the ASUS PC-DL Deluxe dual Xeon board as my standard
workstation board. When running Windows XP or Windows 2003 on it there
is just nothing faster that I have used. The price of the motherboard is
about $230 and low-end Xeon 533fbb CPU's are under $240 each. The board
uses standard DDR400 RAM and has lots of power.

I will not install an AMD based system as a server (unless it's an IBM
one) for clients, so why would I do it for myself.
 
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