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patrickb
When log in to Windows mail, is there a way to save the user name and not be
prompted for user name, but for password only?
prompted for user name, but for password only?
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
Password-protect your Vista User Account instead.
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Gary VanderMolen
No. You only have a choice of remembering both or neither. What end result
are you trying to achieve? Perhaps we can suggest a workaround.
are you trying to achieve? Perhaps we can suggest a workaround.
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Sam Hobbs
You mean like in Outlook Express? Obviously there are not many people such
as you and I. I think you are the only person other than I that has asked
about this for a few months at least.
as you and I. I think you are the only person other than I that has asked
about this for a few months at least.
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Steve Cochran
They broke some things going from OE to WinMail and never fixed them.
steve
steve
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patrickb
Hi, Thx for the reply. End result I am looking for is as with Outlook
Express: I fire up Windows Mail. My log in Id is already in the "User Name"
input filed, and I just have to type my password. Pretty much like saving
your log in Id when accessing a web site... you then just enter a password.
This is something MS should fix. This is not asking for too much.......
Express: I fire up Windows Mail. My log in Id is already in the "User Name"
input filed, and I just have to type my password. Pretty much like saving
your log in Id when accessing a web site... you then just enter a password.
This is something MS should fix. This is not asking for too much.......
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Steve Cochran
Unfortunately MS has made it clear that it isn't going to fix anything.
steve
steve
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Gary VanderMolen
Again, you did not explain the reason behind wanting it that way.
Microsoft totally rethought security aspects for Vista. One of those
changes is not allowing entry of just the mail server password, thereby
lulling the user into a false sense of security. If you allow others access
to your Windows user profile, the lack of a mail server password will not
keep them from reading your already downloaded or sent messages.
Microsoft totally rethought security aspects for Vista. One of those
changes is not allowing entry of just the mail server password, thereby
lulling the user into a false sense of security. If you allow others access
to your Windows user profile, the lack of a mail server password will not
keep them from reading your already downloaded or sent messages.
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Sam Hobbs
This does not make sense. I don't understand what you are saying about "just
the mail server password" and "Windows user profile". The question is about
email accounts, not mail servers or Windows user profiles. Also, the
question is unrelated to "already downloaded or sent messages". If the
justification was security, then Windows Mail should not allow the user name
and password to be stored.
Again, you did not explain the reason behind wanting it that way.
Microsoft totally rethought security aspects for Vista. One of those
changes is not allowing entry of just the mail server password, thereby
lulling the user into a false sense of security. If you allow others access
to your Windows user profile, the lack of a mail server password will not
keep them from reading your already downloaded or sent messages.
the mail server password" and "Windows user profile". The question is about
email accounts, not mail servers or Windows user profiles. Also, the
question is unrelated to "already downloaded or sent messages". If the
justification was security, then Windows Mail should not allow the user name
and password to be stored.
Again, you did not explain the reason behind wanting it that way.
Microsoft totally rethought security aspects for Vista. One of those
changes is not allowing entry of just the mail server password, thereby
lulling the user into a false sense of security. If you allow others access
to your Windows user profile, the lack of a mail server password will not
keep them from reading your already downloaded or sent messages.
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Gary VanderMolen
Since the OP failed to explain the actual reason for wanting it done
his way (save only the username, not the password), I made the assumption
that his motivation was security, i.e., his mail accounts would be "secure"
from others who used his computer.
Most users control security/access to mail accounts differently, which is why
Microsoft changed it in Vista.
his way (save only the username, not the password), I made the assumption
that his motivation was security, i.e., his mail accounts would be "secure"
from others who used his computer.
Most users control security/access to mail accounts differently, which is why
Microsoft changed it in Vista.
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patrickb
My reason is security and hate of typing. I don't want to save both user
nane and password so that if I acidentally leave my machine unattended, one
can not use my machine to send emails using my email address. On the other
hand, I don't want to leave both unsaved since this will require too much
typing to enter both user name (long email address) and password.
Now is MS is so concerned about security, what they should do is to prevent
people to read email email only if proper credentials (user name and
password) is provided. Even with OE, which does provide the functionality I
am describing, I never understood how one was allowed to read emails without
entering proper credentials. I don't buy this argument claiming that users
should rely on vista log in to protect their email. If this is the case, then
don't protect email application with user name/password at alll.....
nane and password so that if I acidentally leave my machine unattended, one
can not use my machine to send emails using my email address. On the other
hand, I don't want to leave both unsaved since this will require too much
typing to enter both user name (long email address) and password.
Now is MS is so concerned about security, what they should do is to prevent
people to read email email only if proper credentials (user name and
password) is provided. Even with OE, which does provide the functionality I
am describing, I never understood how one was allowed to read emails without
entering proper credentials. I don't buy this argument claiming that users
should rely on vista log in to protect their email. If this is the case, then
don't protect email application with user name/password at alll.....
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Dave
There is no username/password for Windows Mail or Windows Live Mail.
A password on your Vista account provides security for all of your files.
A password on your Vista account provides security for all of your files.
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Steve Cochran
Its a bug. I bugged something similar in the Vista beta and they never
fixed it.
steve
fixed it.
steve
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Gary VanderMolen
If you need to leave your computer unattended, the proper way is
to press Winkey+L first. That locks your Windows user account.
The way you do it, the casual passerby can still read your already
downloaded messages, your sent messages, and he can peruse
your private pictures and sensitive documents.
Microsoft has no choice about the requirement for username and
password because that requirement is dictated by the owner of the
mail server, not your email program.
to press Winkey+L first. That locks your Windows user account.
The way you do it, the casual passerby can still read your already
downloaded messages, your sent messages, and he can peruse
your private pictures and sensitive documents.
Microsoft has no choice about the requirement for username and
password because that requirement is dictated by the owner of the
mail server, not your email program.
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Sam Hobbs
Microsoft has a choice. Patrick stated explicitly that Patrick wants Windows
Mail to work like Outlook Express in the relevant matter. OE can do it so
WinMail can too.
If you need to leave your computer unattended, the proper way is
to press Winkey+L first. That locks your Windows user account.
The way you do it, the casual passerby can still read your already
downloaded messages, your sent messages, and he can peruse
your private pictures and sensitive documents.
Microsoft has no choice about the requirement for username and
password because that requirement is dictated by the owner of the
mail server, not your email program.
Mail to work like Outlook Express in the relevant matter. OE can do it so
WinMail can too.
If you need to leave your computer unattended, the proper way is
to press Winkey+L first. That locks your Windows user account.
The way you do it, the casual passerby can still read your already
downloaded messages, your sent messages, and he can peruse
your private pictures and sensitive documents.
Microsoft has no choice about the requirement for username and
password because that requirement is dictated by the owner of the
mail server, not your email program.
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Gary VanderMolen
Right. But as I explained earlier, Microsoft rethought all security aspects
for Vista, and the OE way was thought to lull the user into a false sense
of security, hence it was done away with.
for Vista, and the OE way was thought to lull the user into a false sense
of security, hence it was done away with.
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Sam Hobbs
I sure don't see any security advantage.
There are very many sites, such as PayPal, eBay and many banks, in which IE
and/or the web site will store usernames or the equivalent so that it does
not need to be re-entered each time the account is accessed through IE.
In the case of email, passwords can easily be obtained by anyone (I assume
you know how) with sufficient knowledge (I won't explain the details here
for obvious reasons) and physical access to the system for a few minutes at
most. This can be done if an email program such as Windows Mail stores
username and password. This is not a Microsoft problem; it is due to the
design of email. Decreasing convenience for the purpose of increasing
security can certainly "lull the user into a false sense of security" since
email is fundamentally insecure.
Right. But as I explained earlier, Microsoft rethought all security aspects
for Vista, and the OE way was thought to lull the user into a false sense
of security, hence it was done away with.
There are very many sites, such as PayPal, eBay and many banks, in which IE
and/or the web site will store usernames or the equivalent so that it does
not need to be re-entered each time the account is accessed through IE.
In the case of email, passwords can easily be obtained by anyone (I assume
you know how) with sufficient knowledge (I won't explain the details here
for obvious reasons) and physical access to the system for a few minutes at
most. This can be done if an email program such as Windows Mail stores
username and password. This is not a Microsoft problem; it is due to the
design of email. Decreasing convenience for the purpose of increasing
security can certainly "lull the user into a false sense of security" since
email is fundamentally insecure.
Right. But as I explained earlier, Microsoft rethought all security aspects
for Vista, and the OE way was thought to lull the user into a false sense
of security, hence it was done away with.
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