Load Last

[ldone]

I have many programs that have an icon near the taskbar clock.
How do I make a program load last?

 

[null2006]

I believe that the last items loaded are the ones that appear in
C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

 

[ldone]

Thank you but I am talking about the startup programs that load from
msconfig

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Nothing loads from msconfig. msconfig.exe is the System Configuration
Utility and allows you to troubleshoot startup items by unselecting them.

Execution Order for starting programs

With Windows XP, There are 13+ places that programs can start from and
they are executed in the following order:

Before Logon
1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
2) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

After Logon
3)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup
4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %allusersprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %userprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.

[[Startups in groups 6 to 11 all run at the same time (more or less).
However, the groups themselves are triggered in the order shown above. In
other words, the next group can begin launching while the previous group is
still loading its startups. Due to timing issues it is impossible to say
what order these items will finish loading, thus it is impossible to
predict the exact order of execution for individual startups. For instance,
you may notice two or more system tray icons changing position with each
boot - even when no changes have been made to the order.]]

[[The order of items within a group is not necessarily the final order, as
some programs take longer than others to load, and synchronous groups can
overlap each other.]]

Items in 10 and 11 execute alphanumerically. You can change the order in 10
and 11 by moving the items from 11 to 10. Also, you can rename the
shortcuts in 10 and/or 11.

For example; dfg.exe, fgh.exe and ghj.exe would start in that order. To
change the order rename the shortcuts to 1ghj.exe, 2dfg.exe and 3fgh.exe.
They would then start in that order.

Some items are a race every time as to which actually starts first, no
matter what you do.

You can use the same method to try to get something to load last.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[ldone]

thank you that is what I needed

Nothing loads from msconfig. msconfig.exe is the System Configuration
Utility and allows you to troubleshoot startup items by unselecting them.

Execution Order for starting programs

With Windows XP, There are 13+ places that programs can start from and
they are executed in the following order:

Before Logon
1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
2)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

After Logon
3)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup
4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %allusersprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %userprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.

[[Startups in groups 6 to 11 all run at the same time (more or less).
However, the groups themselves are triggered in the order shown above. In
other words, the next group can begin launching while the previous group
is
still loading its startups. Due to timing issues it is impossible to say
what order these items will finish loading, thus it is impossible to
predict the exact order of execution for individual startups. For
instance,
you may notice two or more system tray icons changing position with each
boot - even when no changes have been made to the order.]]

[[The order of items within a group is not necessarily the final order, as
some programs take longer than others to load, and synchronous groups can
overlap each other.]]

Items in 10 and 11 execute alphanumerically. You can change the order in
10
and 11 by moving the items from 11 to 10. Also, you can rename the
shortcuts in 10 and/or 11.

For example; dfg.exe, fgh.exe and ghj.exe would start in that order. To
change the order rename the shortcuts to 1ghj.exe, 2dfg.exe and 3fgh.exe.
They would then start in that order.

Some items are a race every time as to which actually starts first, no
matter what you do.

You can use the same method to try to get something to load last.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Thank you but I am talking about the startup programs that load from
msconfig

 

[ldone]

I was trying to get task manager to load last

Nothing loads from msconfig. msconfig.exe is the System Configuration
Utility and allows you to troubleshoot startup items by unselecting them.

Execution Order for starting programs

With Windows XP, There are 13+ places that programs can start from and
they are executed in the following order:

Before Logon
1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
2)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

After Logon
3)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup
4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %allusersprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %userprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.

[[Startups in groups 6 to 11 all run at the same time (more or less).
However, the groups themselves are triggered in the order shown above. In
other words, the next group can begin launching while the previous group
is
still loading its startups. Due to timing issues it is impossible to say
what order these items will finish loading, thus it is impossible to
predict the exact order of execution for individual startups. For
instance,
you may notice two or more system tray icons changing position with each
boot - even when no changes have been made to the order.]]

[[The order of items within a group is not necessarily the final order, as
some programs take longer than others to load, and synchronous groups can
overlap each other.]]

Items in 10 and 11 execute alphanumerically. You can change the order in
10
and 11 by moving the items from 11 to 10. Also, you can rename the
shortcuts in 10 and/or 11.

For example; dfg.exe, fgh.exe and ghj.exe would start in that order. To
change the order rename the shortcuts to 1ghj.exe, 2dfg.exe and 3fgh.exe.
They would then start in that order.

Some items are a race every time as to which actually starts first, no
matter what you do.

You can use the same method to try to get something to load last.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Thank you but I am talking about the startup programs that load from
msconfig

 

[POP]

I have many programs that have an icon near the taskbar
clock. How do I make a program load last?

You can't, really, since most of them are determined for loading
at locations stored all over the place.
You -might- have a small success by uninstalling, boot,
reinstalling something. I've noticed that can change order
sometimes, and I had a situation once where it was necessary in
order to keep problems from cropping up (video software). But in
general you have no real control over them.

HTH
Pop

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Why do you need Task Manager to load at boot at all? Monitoring CPU usage?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I was trying to get task manager to load last

Nothing loads from msconfig. msconfig.exe is the System Configuration
Utility and allows you to troubleshoot startup items by unselecting them.

Execution Order for starting programs

With Windows XP, There are 13+ places that programs can start from and
they are executed in the following order:

Before Logon
1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
2)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

After Logon
3)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup
4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
5)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load 7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %allusersprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %userprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.

[[Startups in groups 6 to 11 all run at the same time (more or less).
However, the groups themselves are triggered in the order shown above. In
other words, the next group can begin launching while the previous group
is
still loading its startups. Due to timing issues it is impossible to say
what order these items will finish loading, thus it is impossible to
predict the exact order of execution for individual startups. For
instance,
you may notice two or more system tray icons changing position with each
boot - even when no changes have been made to the order.]]

[[The order of items within a group is not necessarily the final order,
as some programs take longer than others to load, and synchronous groups
can overlap each other.]]

Items in 10 and 11 execute alphanumerically. You can change the order in
10
and 11 by moving the items from 11 to 10. Also, you can rename the
shortcuts in 10 and/or 11.

For example; dfg.exe, fgh.exe and ghj.exe would start in that order. To
change the order rename the shortcuts to 1ghj.exe, 2dfg.exe and 3fgh.exe.
They would then start in that order.

Some items are a race every time as to which actually starts first, no
matter what you do.

You can use the same method to try to get something to load last.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Thank you but I am talking about the startup programs that load from
msconfig


I believe that the last items loaded are the ones that appear in
C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

ldone wrote:

I have many programs that have an icon near the taskbar clock.
How do I make a program load last?

 

[ldone]

I always use the task manager to monitor cpu/memory use.
It is one less thing that I have to do manually
..

Why do you need Task Manager to load at boot at all? Monitoring CPU
usage?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I was trying to get task manager to load last

Nothing loads from msconfig. msconfig.exe is the System Configuration
Utility and allows you to troubleshoot startup items by unselecting
them.

Execution Order for starting programs

With Windows XP, There are 13+ places that programs can start from and
they are executed in the following order:

Before Logon
1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce
2)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

After Logon
3)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup
4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
5)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load 7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %allusersprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
or %userprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.

[[Startups in groups 6 to 11 all run at the same time (more or less).
However, the groups themselves are triggered in the order shown above.
In
other words, the next group can begin launching while the previous group
is
still loading its startups. Due to timing issues it is impossible to say
what order these items will finish loading, thus it is impossible to
predict the exact order of execution for individual startups. For
instance,
you may notice two or more system tray icons changing position with each
boot - even when no changes have been made to the order.]]

[[The order of items within a group is not necessarily the final order,
as some programs take longer than others to load, and synchronous groups
can overlap each other.]]

Items in 10 and 11 execute alphanumerically. You can change the order
in
10
and 11 by moving the items from 11 to 10. Also, you can rename the
shortcuts in 10 and/or 11.

For example; dfg.exe, fgh.exe and ghj.exe would start in that order.
To
change the order rename the shortcuts to 1ghj.exe, 2dfg.exe and
3fgh.exe.
They would then start in that order.

Some items are a race every time as to which actually starts first, no
matter what you do.

You can use the same method to try to get something to load last.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ldone <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Thank you but I am talking about the startup programs that load from
msconfig


I believe that the last items loaded are the ones that appear in
C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

ldone wrote:

I have many programs that have an icon near the taskbar clock.
How do I make a program load last?

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Gotcha.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I always use the task manager to monitor cpu/memory use.
It is one less thing that I have to do manually
.

Why do you need Task Manager to load at boot at all? Monitoring CPU
usage?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I was trying to get task manager to load last


Nothing loads from msconfig. msconfig.exe is the System Configuration
Utility and allows you to troubleshoot startup items by unselecting
them.

Execution Order for starting programs

With Windows XP, There are 13+ places that programs can start from and
they are executed in the following order:

Before Logon
1)

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce

2)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

After Logon
3)

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Setup

4)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce 5)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load 7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
or %allusersprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start
Menu\Programs\Startup
or %userprofile%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
12)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce
13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.

[[Startups in groups 6 to 11 all run at the same time (more or less).
However, the groups themselves are triggered in the order shown above.
In
other words, the next group can begin launching while the previous
group is
still loading its startups. Due to timing issues it is impossible to
say what order these items will finish loading, thus it is impossible
to predict the exact order of execution for individual startups. For
instance,
you may notice two or more system tray icons changing position with
each boot - even when no changes have been made to the order.]]

[[The order of items within a group is not necessarily the final order,
as some programs take longer than others to load, and synchronous
groups can overlap each other.]]

Items in 10 and 11 execute alphanumerically. You can change the order
in
10
and 11 by moving the items from 11 to 10. Also, you can rename the
shortcuts in 10 and/or 11.

For example; dfg.exe, fgh.exe and ghj.exe would start in that order.
To
change the order rename the shortcuts to 1ghj.exe, 2dfg.exe and
3fgh.exe.
They would then start in that order.

Some items are a race every time as to which actually starts first, no
matter what you do.

You can use the same method to try to get something to load last.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ldone <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Thank you but I am talking about the startup programs that load from
msconfig


I believe that the last items loaded are the ones that appear in
C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

ldone wrote:

I have many programs that have an icon near the taskbar clock.
How do I make a program load last?