Linksys NAS200 Network Storage adapter

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Richard in Va.

Does anyone know anything about the Linksys NAS200 Network Storage adapter?
I'm using WinXP-Home with a Linksys WRT54G v5 Wireless DSL Broadband Router.

The storage adapter holds (2) SATA drives, I understand other remote PC's can access this
via web browser or ftp using passwords. Supposedly, other users can upload and/or download
files to and from the storage adapter based on permissions I set up for them.

Is there anything else $$ needed to accomplish this?
Is the TZO DNS Dynamic DNS service required to do basic file shares between remote PC's?
The TZO software is embedded in the NAS200. Is this really needed?

Thanks for any advice!

Richard in VA.
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Does anyone know anything about the Linksys NAS200 Network Storage adapter?
I'm using WinXP-Home with a Linksys WRT54G v5 Wireless DSL Broadband Router.

The storage adapter holds (2) SATA drives, I understand other remote PC's can access this
via web browser or ftp using passwords. Supposedly, other users can upload and/or download
files to and from the storage adapter based on permissions I set up for them.

Is there anything else $$ needed to accomplish this?
Is the TZO DNS Dynamic DNS service required to do basic file shares between remote PC's?
The TZO software is embedded in the NAS200. Is this really needed?

Thanks for any advice!

Richard in VA.
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TZO and DynDNS "service" provides a method of finding your "device"
based on a name (ie: "mydevice.tzo.org") instead of IP address
(192.168.2.21) across the Interent. You need this type of service if
you are not using a static IP address Internet service. If you are
not "enabling" this device to be "seen" on the Internet, then you do
not need this.

What exactly is your difficulties with this device.
 
Thanks smlunatick for your input!

I really don't have any problems, other than deciding whether or not to buy
the Linksys NAS200 Network Storage Adapter.
Don't mind using the IP address (192.168.2.21) for the few people I'll
provide passwords for. But I don't know if I'm using static IP or not.
My internet access is with Embarq (Sprint) DSL so I have a DSL broadband
router, then a linksys wireless broadband router, then my PC running
WinXP-Home.

I always thought DSL used static IP, but maybe I'm wrong, I don't know alot
about networking...

Thanks again!

Richard in VA.
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I found out... for around $10/mo, my ISP will give me a static IP address.

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I found out... for around $10/mo, my ISP will give me a static IP address.

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If you used a "username" and "password", most of the time, this is a
"dynamically" assigned IP address. Depending on when your connection
logs onto your ISP servers, your connection will get an IP address
"assigned" from within the alloted adress range for this service.
Usually for "low" cost DSL services (under $100.00.)

There are services that for additional charge, will when your
connection "useranem" is seen, will always "assign" the same IP
address.

Then there is the true static IP address service where the ISP will
give your an IP address, sub-net mask, default gateway and domain name
(optional) for you to enter these into your Windows IP address
settings (single PC) or router (network.)
 
Hi
You are mixing few issues that are somewhat independent.
Main use of NAS is the storage File for your private Network.
Some NAS' provide also the capacity to configure an ftp server.
Connecting to any device on a private LAN through the Internet is done
similarly and there are few options.
Static IP makes it easy to be found on the Internet, but does not resolve
the issue of Routing the traffic to the NAS.
The Routing pass your Internet Router is based on Port Opening toward your
NAS' ftp server.
In order to work well the NAS must have Static IP, otherwise the port
opening might get confused and the traffic would not reach the NAS
Almost all NAS' you set the IP to whatever is needed to fit to your current
IP subnet scheme.
These two page where written for another devices but the principle is
exactly the same for NAS.
This page concerns the connection through the Internet,
http://www.ezlan.net/myip.html
The second half of this page show the idea of internal Routing from the
Internet to the Device, http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).
 
If I understand correctly, my ISP will assign an IP address to my DSL modem when the modem
logs onto the ISP's servers regardless of whether the PC is turned on or off? If so, my
assigned IP address will be the same until I reset/reboot the DSL modem which is ~ 4-6
times a year. I could probably live with that. With just a few friends and family
members, I want to "share" some family pictures and home movies and such. Or at least make
the files available for those who are interested. Access to these files would be over the
internet (browser web/ftp) or over my local wireless network.

Using something like the Linksys NAS200, they could still have access when my desktop PC
is turned off. Whenever I reset the DSL modem, I could email them my newly assigned IP
address.

Am I understanding this right?

But then the ISP assigns the IP address to my DSL modem right? Right now, I have a DSL
modem, then a wireless broadband router, then my main PC (wired to the router) for
internet access. I guess the NAS200 would connect (wired) to my wireless broadband
router.

I know, I have alot of questions and I'm beginning to confuse myself, I just don't want to
buy the NAS ~$130 + a hard drive ~$130 and install to find out I need a monthly $$ service
to do what I want.

url for the linksys NAS200 Network Storage adapter...
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Sate...nksys/Common/VisitorWrapper&lid=5253976915B01

As mentioned on the above page, the NAS200 offers to "securely share files locally or
through the Internet (FTP, HTTP) with no dedicated PC needed" (this is what caught my eye)

I think the Linsys setup utility will help address the "port open" and firewall concerns
as Jack (MVP Networking) has mentioned in a separate reply, I guess I got some reading to
do.

But again, any advise is always welcome!

Richard in VA.
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Hello Jack,

Thanks for your input here!
So if the NAS200 has a static IP and I address the "port open" for port #80 or #8080 and
the firewall issues are dealt with, then anyone on the internet that types the IP of the
NAS into the browser address bar will have access to my storage drive provided I give them
a password?

Is this correct?

Thanks for the link to http://www.ezlan.net:80/myip.html
I've read thru some of this and I guess I'm still alittle confused, maybe I should read
some more...

When I saw the NAS200 at linksys.com and read thru all the features and benefits, towards
the end I found the "fine print" about needing the TZO DNS Dynamic DNS service required to
do basic file shares between remote PC's along with a 1-year "free" offer for the service.
I really don't want another monthly $$ service just to do a few file shares over the
internet.

Richard in VA
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The NAS200 offers
 
Richard said:
If so, my assigned IP address will be the same until I reset/reboot the DSL modem which is ~ 4-6
times a year. I could probably live with that.

Or, you could go with a free dynamic DNS service, such as DynDNS
(http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/) or one of the others
mentioned here: http://www.technopagan.org/dynamic/#TheList (not the
only list, and probably a bit out of date).

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
 
Thanks Lem,
Lots of reading here to, especially your second link, a good read for someone like me!

Richard in VA.
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Hi
You are getting there.
Port 80 is for HTTP, FTP usually uses port 21.
Let assume that you have a regular HTTP web site on the NAS using port 80.
You log to the Router and you ser it to forward port 80 toward the NAS
(Notice that the Router can open a port only toward one internal IP). If
(example ) your NAS' IP 192.168.1.10 you open port 80 toward this IP.

Let say that your external Internet IP is 60.40.2.3., or you use DNS service
that point to your computer as myserver.DNSservice.com.

Some one on the Internet types into their browser 60.40.2.2, or
myserver.DNSservice.com, it goes to your Router, since the Router was told
to Route (forward) traffic coming on port 80 toward 192.168.1.10 it would go
to the NAS.
Jack (MVP-Networking).
 
Thank you Jack for your extended input here. It helps alot!
So I either obtain a static IP from my ISP or use a free or inexpensive DNS service.

Use the static IP from my ISP as my "web address", enable port forwarding in the router
set to forward to the IP address of the NAS which has a static IP.

Good! At least I have a much better idea of what I'm getting into BEFORE I buy the NAS and
the HD to put in it.

I guess I'll call my ISP and bicker for a static IP, I call them every year or so anyway
and "encourage" them to give me a better deal, sometimes they double my DSL bandwidth for
just a few $, sometimes they knock $10+/- off my bill. Gotta stay on those people cuz you
won't get anything if you never ask!

One thing tho, The Linksys NAS200 is independent of a PC, meaning others can access the
NAS over the internet even when my PC is turned off. If I go with a DNS service, will
that require my PC to be turned on to make the NAS accessible to others over the internet
??

The way I understand it, the DNS service installs/runs a service on my PC that tags my ISP
every once in a while, when it detects that the ISP has assigned a new IP to me, it
informs the DNS network to redirect my incoming traffic to the new IP. If true, I'd have
to leave my PC on to keep things going.

Once again, thanks for the ezlan.net link, LOTS of good stuff to read... I'll be in there
for awhile!

Best regards,

Richard in VA.
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Hi
Some Routers can keep certain DNS services On. Otherwise a PC needs to run
in order to update the DNS service.
If your Router can keep the DNS updated, or you get a Static IP, then the
Modem, the Router, and the NAS stays On, and all computers can be Off.
I personally do not like any of the Entry level NAS. I keep a simple
computer, mini case, with mATX/onboard graphic motherboard, running Celeron
1GHz, 512MB RAM, 320GB HD, using Windows 2000 as NAS and Http/ftp servers.
The computer keeps a free DNS service updated. Since it takes only 70 watts
when working, and less when in standby, it is Not a terrible electrical
expense. I have already an experimental Windows Home Server (WHS) configured
with embedded free DNS provided by Microsoft with WHS. The address is nice
too, yourname.homeserver.com
Jack (MVP-Networking).
 
Hello Jack,

Thanks for your input here!
So if the NAS200 has a static IP and I address the "port open" for port #80 or #8080 and
the firewall issues are dealt with, then anyone on the internet that types the IP of the
NAS into the browser address bar will have access to my storage drive provided I give them
a password?

Is this correct?

Thanks for the link tohttp://www.ezlan.net:80/myip.html
I've read thru some of this and I guess I'm still alittle confused, maybe I should read
some more...

When I saw the NAS200 at linksys.com and read thru all the features and benefits, towards
the end I found the "fine print" about needing the TZO DNS Dynamic DNS service required to
do basic file shares between remote PC's along with a 1-year "free" offer for the service.
I really don't want another monthly $$ service just to do a few file shares over the
internet.

Richard in VA
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Ports #80 and 8080 are not normally used to "share" files (eiher as
FTP or Windows file sharing.)
 
Thanks again Jack... !

Thanks also for the heads-up about the Windows Home Server (WHS) or a Media Server w/WHS
installed as a possible option/solution. I've read thru some of the MS web site on that
product and it appears to do everything a NAS will do plus other cool features, such as,
with an xbox360 with the wireless adapter, I can stream my video/pics to my TV for family
viewing. A bowl of popcorn and we're set!

Looks like people are making add-ons for the WHS to add even more stuff to do, like a
Download Manager or a web page builder, lots of stuff to look at and consider here too!

The difference in $$ between the two would compare with one, ok maybe 2 trips to Wal-Mart,
those folks won't let me out the door till I spend at least $150.

So I guess I'll check to see if my Linksys WRT54G wireless broadband router can keep a DNS
service updated. Then call my ISP and inquire about a static IP as well as to see if they
block certain ports for the service plan I have.

(joke for the day)
I was mowing my lawn last week when the neighbors cat ran out in from of me. I wound up
cutting his tail off, so I gathered the cat in one arm and picked up his tail then carried
them down to Wal-Mart.

You might ask: Why Wal-Mart?
Answer: Wal-Mart is the largest Re-Tailer in the world aren't they?

Thanks Jack!

Richard in VA.
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Richard said:
Thanks again Jack... !

Thanks also for the heads-up about the Windows Home Server (WHS) or a Media Server w/WHS
installed as a possible option/solution. I've read thru some of the MS web site on that
product and it appears to do everything a NAS will do plus other cool features, such as,
with an xbox360 with the wireless adapter, I can stream my video/pics to my TV for family
viewing. A bowl of popcorn and we're set!

Looks like people are making add-ons for the WHS to add even more stuff to do, like a
Download Manager or a web page builder, lots of stuff to look at and consider here too!

The difference in $$ between the two would compare with one, ok maybe 2 trips to Wal-Mart,
those folks won't let me out the door till I spend at least $150.

So I guess I'll check to see if my Linksys WRT54G wireless broadband router can keep a DNS
service updated. Then call my ISP and inquire about a static IP as well as to see if they
block certain ports for the service plan I have.

(joke for the day)
I was mowing my lawn last week when the neighbors cat ran out in from of me. I wound up
cutting his tail off, so I gathered the cat in one arm and picked up his tail then carried
them down to Wal-Mart.

You might ask: Why Wal-Mart?
Answer: Wal-Mart is the largest Re-Tailer in the world aren't they?

Thanks Jack!

Richard in VA.
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FYI, the WRT54G (as long as it's reasonably recent) will automatically
work with DynDNS or TZO. Get to the admin web pages and go to
Setup > DDNS.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
 
Thanks Lem, mine is a Linksys WRT54G v5 and I see Linksys has a firmware "v6" available.

But while we're on this subject, let me ask a question I had been saving for a phone call
the Linksys Tech Support.
Maybe one of you might have a good answer to offer.

I got my WRT54G for xmas a few years ago, the install/setup CD failed to configure
everything. So I disconnected the router and went to Linksys.com and downloaded a utility
that they claimed would fix everything and it did, for the most part anyway. It
configured my network and everything "works" but I have lost access the routers setup web
page. My password and/or username does not work. I've never really had any concerns with
this because it "just works". I have tho been afraid to push the reset button on the
router because I think that will reset everything back to factory default putting me right
back to where I started in the first place.

I suppose my security is ok and I don't notice any network traffic that is not me, but my
neighbors across the street have been asking me for my wep key (small town, nice people
and their just kidding) !

The other night I did find a new utility at Linksys.com that when installed, claims to map
my network devices and says it will fix problems and such, the utility is called
"EasyLinkAdvisor" (~21MB).

I have run netconfig/all and it really doesn't tell me much.

I do notice that the TCP/IP properties of my PC network connection is set to...

Under General Tab
(x) Obtain and IP address automatically
(x) Obtain a DNS server address automatically

Under Alternate Configuration Tab
(x) Automatic private IP address

SO, what can I expect to have happen if I press the reset button on the router?

Thanks so much!

Richard in VA.
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I've never used any of those automated setup tools, and so I don't know
what exactly they do or when they might be useful and when not.

I suggest NOT messing around with a firmware update. The WRT54G v.5
works with DynDNS and TZO out of the box. With respect to the WRT54G,
version numbers such as 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0 refer to the *hardware* and not
to firmware. The most recent firmware update for WRT54G versions 5 and
6 is 1.02.2 7/02/2007. This firmware is *only* compatible with these
two hardware versions of the WRT54G.

Reviewing the firmware change log, I see that the only change relevant
to using DynDNS with is version 1.00.2 (9 or 10 revisions ago;
unfortunately, revision dates aren't given). The notes say that this
change "Resolves issue with DynDNS abusive updates," so if you will be
using DynDNS, you ought to ensure that you have this or more recent
firmware.

In any event, you should regain access to the router's configuration
utility. Among other things, you really should be using WPA or WPA2
encryption. WEP encryption can be cracked using easily-available tools
in less than 5 minutes.

The default method for gaining access is to leave the User name blank
and to use "admin" (all lower case) for the password. If this doesn't
work, you will have to reset to factory defaults. To do so, press and
hold the reset button for about 10 seconds.

If you reset the router you will have to do the following things, all of
which can be done manually, if you think that you'll have difficulty
using the "Secure EZ Setup" button and the Setup Wizard CD-ROM (and, of
course, this method *only* works if all of the other wireless devices
are compatible with the Linksys "Secure EZ Setup" -- and not all are).
Read Chapter 3 of the User Guide, which should be on the CD or can be
downloaded from Linksys.

1. You will have configure the way that the router connects to your
ISP. If you have cable, your ISP *probably* supplies you with an IP
automatically with DHCP. The default configuration of the WRT54G is to
use this. If you have DSL, your ISP probably uses PPPoE, which requires
you to log in to your ISP (usually) using your email address and email
password. You'll have to enable this mode and same this info in the
router. There are a couple of other relevant options for PPPoE
explained in the User Guide. If you don't know how to connect to your
ISP without a router (that is, directly to your cable or DSL modem),
call your ISP or check their technical support website.

2. In "Network Setup," you should set your time zone and the DDNS
selection (which was the main reason for this exercise). You can leave
the rest of this section at default values.

3. In the "Wireless" section, you should select the mode (G-only,
B-only, or mixed). If all of your wireless devices are 802.11G, you
should use G-only rather than mixed. Pick a unique SSID, but don't use
your name or address. Do NOT disable SSID broadcast. If you haven't
experienced any interference from nearby wireless networks or other
electronic devices, leave the channel at the default. If you have
problems on channel 6, try 1 or 11. These are the only 3 channels you
should use. For encryption, use WPA2-Personal if all your other
wireless devices support it; otherwise, use WPA-Personal. If you have
any wireless devices that only support WEP, I strongly advise updating
or replacing them. Similarly, select AES as the encryption algorithm,
if all of your other devices support this (most should).

Everything else can be left at default.

Thanks Lem, mine is a Linksys WRT54G v5 and I see Linksys has a firmware "v6" available.

But while we're on this subject, let me ask a question I had been saving for a phone call
the Linksys Tech Support.
Maybe one of you might have a good answer to offer.

I got my WRT54G for xmas a few years ago, the install/setup CD failed to configure
everything. So I disconnected the router and went to Linksys.com and downloaded a utility
that they claimed would fix everything and it did, for the most part anyway. It
configured my network and everything "works" but I have lost access the routers setup web
page. My password and/or username does not work. I've never really had any concerns with
this because it "just works". I have tho been afraid to push the reset button on the
router because I think that will reset everything back to factory default putting me right
back to where I started in the first place.

I suppose my security is ok and I don't notice any network traffic that is not me, but my
neighbors across the street have been asking me for my wep key (small town, nice people
and their just kidding) !

The other night I did find a new utility at Linksys.com that when installed, claims to map
my network devices and says it will fix problems and such, the utility is called
"EasyLinkAdvisor" (~21MB).

I have run netconfig/all and it really doesn't tell me much.

I do notice that the TCP/IP properties of my PC network connection is set to...

Under General Tab
(x) Obtain and IP address automatically
(x) Obtain a DNS server address automatically

Under Alternate Configuration Tab
(x) Automatic private IP address

SO, what can I expect to have happen if I press the reset button on the router?

Thanks so much!

Richard in VA.
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--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
 
Hello Lem, Wow, ask and thou shall receive!

Thanks for all good information here. I guess I had always run on the old
adage that if it works, don't mess with it. But then I knew the day would
come that I'd havta do something about it. Right now, all I have is the DSL
modem > wireless broadband router > Ethernet card in my PC. I have no other
network or wireless devices. The wireless part is only used when brother or
sister visit with their laptops maybe once or twice a year.

(guess which one gave it to me for xmas)

Everything you suggest in your reply certainly makes good sense to me. With
the holidays upon us, I might wait till after Thanksgiving to reset the
wireless router in case I need to get ahold of linksys tech support. During
the initial install or anytime afterwards, I have never had access to the
router config web page, kindof weird.

Either that or I'm just missing things here.

As you suggest, I'll leave the firmware alone, at least I know about it if
the problem comes up later.

Again, thanks for the information AND instruction, but more so, thank you
for your time!

I'll post back my results, who knows, I might get impatient and do this
during the Thanksgiving break, but if something goes wrong I won't have
internet access.

btw, is there a way to backup/save my settings in XP network connections?

Richard in VA.
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