Limitations of 98SE

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Greetings,

I am desperately needing to build a faster computer but since I have
thousands of $$$ invested in WIN9X software, I need to use 98SE on the
new machine. WinXP is out of the question. In my research across the
web, I'm getting conflicting reports on the exact limitations of 98SE
when it comes to different technologies and compatibilities. So I could
really use any informed opinions on the questions I have.

Does 98SE support Athlon 64FX (32 bit mode, of course)?
Could 98SE be used with P4 Hyper-threading?
Does 98SE support Serial ATA drive technology?

Acknowledging driver availability or lack thereof, any suggestions or
working motherboard/cpu combinations would be gratefully appreciated.

Thank you so much.
 
Greetings,

I am desperately needing to build a faster computer but since I have
thousands of $$$ invested in WIN9X software, I need to use 98SE on the
new machine. WinXP is out of the question.
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Why?It's ,"Compatibility mode" allows 99% of win98 software to run.
In my research across the
web, I'm getting conflicting reports on the exact limitations of 98SE
when it comes to different technologies and compatibilities. So I could
really use any informed opinions on the questions I have.

Does 98SE support Athlon 64FX (32 bit mode, of course)?
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Most likely.Check the AMD site?
http://www.amd.com/us-en/
Could 98SE be used with P4 Hyper-threading?
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Doubt it.
http://www.amdzone.com/
Does 98SE support Serial ATA drive technology?
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Check the drive maker's site?



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Mooreslaw's log on stardate 13 stu 2004
I am desperately needing to build a faster computer but since I have
thousands of $$$ invested in WIN9X software, I need to use 98SE on
the new machine.
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Well, since you appear to be using mighty computer, why don't you use
VmWare?
 
Mooreslaw said:
Greetings,

I am desperately needing to build a faster computer but since I have
thousands of $$$ invested in WIN9X software, I need to use 98SE on the new
machine. WinXP is out of the question. In my research across the web,
I'm getting conflicting reports on the exact limitations of 98SE when it
comes to different technologies and compatibilities. So I could really
use any informed opinions on the questions I have.

Does 98SE support Athlon 64FX (32 bit mode, of course)?
Could 98SE be used with P4 Hyper-threading?
Does 98SE support Serial ATA drive technology?

Acknowledging driver availability or lack thereof, any suggestions or
working motherboard/cpu combinations would be gratefully appreciated.

Thank you so much.
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I think you need to read a bit more winXP will run most win9x software in
the compatability mode

you can set a program to run as a win98/95 or WinME/2000 program or default
winXP

I also think you should maybe consider suprnova.org for your future software

I know its illegal but it is sure better than paying!

better still go to linux it is Opensource and most programs are free if not
all?

also its kernal supports 64bit usage where as the only Windows equiv is a
64bit XP in beta testing.

winXP is not out of the question if your going on about software
compatability, all my old software works fine onXP

try it dual boot with 98 surely you can get a copy with a decent serial for
a fiver or a few dollars on a market stall somewhere
 
Greetings,

I am desperately needing to build a faster computer but since I have
thousands of $$$ invested in WIN9X software, I need to use 98SE on the
new machine. WinXP is out of the question. In my research across the
web, I'm getting conflicting reports on the exact limitations of 98SE
when it comes to different technologies and compatibilities. So I could
really use any informed opinions on the questions I have.

Does 98SE support Athlon 64FX (32 bit mode, of course)?
yes

Could 98SE be used with P4 Hyper-threading?
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no, the CPU will work except that feature, hyper-threading
is not supported, you'd want to disable it in the
motherboard bios.
Does 98SE support Serial ATA drive technology?
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Yes it's supported but not natively (nor is it native on
WinXP, for example), the SATA driver is needed though just
as on any other OS, so your (motherboard or SATA card)
manufacturer, OR the SATA chipset manufacturer must provide
the driver.
Acknowledging driver availability or lack thereof, any suggestions or
working motherboard/cpu combinations would be gratefully appreciated.
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Depends on exactly what the most demanding tasks are.
Athlon 64 is, on average, much faster at older software than
a P4. Choose a name-brand board of the form-factor and
features you want, popular brands being Abit, Asus, Gigabyte
or MSI.

There isn't much needing considered due to it running
win98se, except that you must use FAT32 filesystem, have to
use 3rd party scandisk or defrag HDD tools for any drive
over 128GB (for example, Norton Utilities 2002 or newer),
and may find over 1GB of memory to be instable, 512MB or
more requiring a vcache change in the system.ini file.
Otherwise it's not particularly problematic, but you still
have resource limitations inherant in any Win9x OS, and
lower stability IF your applications are buggy and prone to
crash already.
 
Greetings,

I am desperately needing to build a faster computer but since I have
thousands of $$$ invested in WIN9X software, I need to use 98SE on the
new machine. WinXP is out of the question. In my research across the
web, I'm getting conflicting reports on the exact limitations of 98SE
when it comes to different technologies and compatibilities. So I could
really use any informed opinions on the questions I have.

Does 98SE support Athlon 64FX (32 bit mode, of course)?
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Not as such, but the Athlon64 chips do support 98SE, in that it has an
x86-32 mode that's Pentium III compatible (ie. it supports everything
up to SSE1, not sure about SSE2). Saying 98SE supports the Athlon64
suggests that it's capable of accessing the advanced features, which
it can't -- at least not out of the box, and I'm not sure if it's
possible to get 98SE to access all of those features.
Could 98SE be used with P4 Hyper-threading?
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Hyper-threading, no. You need an OS capable of multi-processing on a
multi-processor system. That's what the Hyper-threading is meant to
be to emulate two processors on one chip. For windows, that means an
NT variant is needed. If you're asking, can you run 98SE on a P4 that
has Hyper-threading capabilities, yeah, just don't expect to use those
features.
Does 98SE support Serial ATA drive technology?
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Again, not as such, but I don't think it matters. The technology
should be transparent to the OS, with support at the motherboard
level. The OS should just see them as regular drives. Drivers may be
needed for the controller, but those are usually provided by the
motherboard manufacturer, and 98SE/ME are still generally supported in
that regard.
 
Greetings,

I am desperately needing to build a faster computer but since I have
thousands of $$$ invested in WIN9X software, I need to use 98SE on the
new machine. WinXP is out of the question. In my research across the
web, I'm getting conflicting reports on the exact limitations of 98SE
when it comes to different technologies and compatibilities. So I could
really use any informed opinions on the questions I have.

Does 98SE support Athlon 64FX (32 bit mode, of course)?
Could 98SE be used with P4 Hyper-threading?
Does 98SE support Serial ATA drive technology?

Acknowledging driver availability or lack thereof, any suggestions or
working motherboard/cpu combinations would be gratefully appreciated.

Thank you so much.
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How, exactly, did you spend thousands of dollars on one computer's
windows 98? Above you talk about building one machine. WinXP pro is 150
bucks or so. If I thought the same way you do I'd still be using my
pentium 133 with 16 megs of ram and a 1.6 gig hdd because I paid 1700
bucks for it in 1996.
 
How, exactly, did you spend thousands of dollars on one computer's
windows 98? Above you talk about building one machine. WinXP pro is 150
bucks or so.
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Not W98 OS. W98 applcations.
 
Have you tried and failed to run these on winxp?
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Win98SE is plug-n-play, it would not be very difficult or
time-consuming to get new box running same OS install
migrated from the old box. WinXP might work but then again
the apps might not even install on WinXP. There's the
upgrade-to-XP option but that's just a mess, IMHO, better to
try Win98SE and see if it's suitable and if not then
determine if it's possible to get system running clean XP
install... If OP has XP, could be no reason to use XP
depending on the apps/use of system.
 
I don't usually post answers into this forum. I just lurk and read
from guys like Kony and others, great way to learn. I have over 140
programs I used on WinMe and 98SE. I was afraid to upgrade to WinXP
Pro because of the compatibility problems. I loaded the Win9x programs
onto my WinXP machine and they were all able to run. I just clicked
properties and choose the compatibilty tab and picked which
environment to run the program in. They all run great. I don't know if
this helps you?
 
Mooreslaw said:
Greetings,

I am desperately needing to build a faster computer but since I have
thousands of $$$ invested in WIN9X software, I need to use 98SE on the
new machine. WinXP is out of the question. In my research across the
web, I'm getting conflicting reports on the exact limitations of 98SE
when it comes to different technologies and compatibilities. So I could
really use any informed opinions on the questions I have.

Does 98SE support Athlon 64FX (32 bit mode, of course)?
Could 98SE be used with P4 Hyper-threading?
Does 98SE support Serial ATA drive technology?

Acknowledging driver availability or lack thereof, any suggestions or
working motherboard/cpu combinations would be gratefully appreciated.

Thank you so much.
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Thank you to all who replied.
 
I don't usually post answers into this forum. I just lurk and read
from guys like Kony and others, great way to learn. I have over 140
programs I used on WinMe and 98SE. I was afraid to upgrade to WinXP
Pro because of the compatibility problems. I loaded the Win9x programs
onto my WinXP machine and they were all able to run. I just clicked
properties and choose the compatibilty tab and picked which
environment to run the program in. They all run great. I don't know if
this helps you?
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I've even managed to get some old dos based games to run in XP(Twas a
challenge) :O
I still use Win98SE as a dual boot though which is an option the OP
should look into until happy :)



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