LaserJet 1300 prints Postscript source on XP

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Bill Harris

(I thought I replied earlier today to another message and
gave my problem, but I don't see it, so I'll try a new
message.)

I have a WXP machine that I'm trying to use to print to a
LaserJet 1300 using LPR. The LJ1300 is connected to an
SMC 7002BR as a print server according to
http://www.smc.com/drivers_downloads/library/Barricade_XP_
LPRPrinting.pdf.

While it works fine with the PCL and PS drivers over USB,
directly from the computer, I almost always get raw PCL
or PS on the page when printing via the print server.
I've got the default set to raw in the printer driver
setup, but I suspect someone is switching it to EMF; in
fact, I've made it fail once and seen that XP is
reporting back that it couldn't print an EMF 1.008 file.

I have seen it work correctly via the PS driver at least
once or twice; I have no idea what I did differently
those times to make it work.

I did find an earlier suggestion to follow
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q
168/4/57.ASP&NoWebContent=1 and set LpdPrinterPassThrough
and LpdPrinterDontDetect to 1 and 0, respectively. I
tried setting LpdPrinterPassThrough to 1 and rebooting,
but it didn't help. I didn't set LpdPrinterDontDetect
and neither seemed to be created automatically by XP even
after trying to print.

I've also tried tips in
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/prncnfg.asp,
and I've looked at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-
US;132460.

Suggestions?

Thanks,

Bill
 
Alan,

Thanks. It's like a light bulb went off (I've been
looking up how to configure an XP server, when I really
had an XP print client, right?), but I think I've got a
chandelier still to go. :-)

So is my assumption correct that XP may be shipping out
EMF files and should be shipping out raw files? Is there
a way to have it ship out only raw files?

If I can't get this (printing via LPR) to work, I may try
the old 9x/W2K print driver from SMC that installs a
PRTMate port (?) on the PC.

Thanks,

Bill
-----Original Message-----
The document from SMC has you creating a Standard TCP/IP port in LPR mode.
The passthrough setting referenced below is when the XP machine is receiving
the printjob from a UNIX client.



--
Alan Morris

Microsoft Printing Team

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh; [ln];kbhowto
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

(I thought I replied earlier today to another message and
gave my problem, but I don't see it, so I'll try a new
message.)

I have a WXP machine that I'm trying to use to print to a
LaserJet 1300 using LPR. The LJ1300 is connected to an
SMC 7002BR as a print server according to
http://www.smc.com/drivers_downloads/library/Barricade_XP_
LPRPrinting.pdf.

While it works fine with the PCL and PS drivers over USB,
directly from the computer, I almost always get raw PCL
or PS on the page when printing via the print server.
I've got the default set to raw in the printer driver
setup, but I suspect someone is switching it to EMF; in
fact, I've made it fail once and seen that XP is
reporting back that it couldn't print an EMF 1.008 file.

I have seen it work correctly via the PS driver at least
once or twice; I have no idea what I did differently
those times to make it work.

I did find an earlier suggestion to follow
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q
168/4/57.ASP&NoWebContent=1 and set LpdPrinterPassThrough
and LpdPrinterDontDetect to 1 and 0, respectively. I
tried setting LpdPrinterPassThrough to 1 and rebooting,
but it didn't help. I didn't set LpdPrinterDontDetect
and neither seemed to be created automatically by XP even
after trying to print.

I've also tried tips in
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/prncnfg.asp,
and I've looked at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-
US;132460.

Suggestions?

Thanks,

Bill
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You can force the job to print in Raw format by disabling the advanced
printing features on the Advanced tab of Printer Properties.

I have seen instances where Booklet printing no longer works, but for day to
day stuff this has little impact on output.

--
Alan Morris

Microsoft Printing Team

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Bill Harris said:
Alan,

Thanks. It's like a light bulb went off (I've been
looking up how to configure an XP server, when I really
had an XP print client, right?), but I think I've got a
chandelier still to go. :-)

So is my assumption correct that XP may be shipping out
EMF files and should be shipping out raw files? Is there
a way to have it ship out only raw files?

If I can't get this (printing via LPR) to work, I may try
the old 9x/W2K print driver from SMC that installs a
PRTMate port (?) on the PC.

Thanks,

Bill
-----Original Message-----
The document from SMC has you creating a Standard TCP/IP port in LPR mode.
The passthrough setting referenced below is when the XP machine is receiving
the printjob from a UNIX client.



--
Alan Morris

Microsoft Printing Team

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh; [ln];kbhowto
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

(I thought I replied earlier today to another message and
gave my problem, but I don't see it, so I'll try a new
message.)

I have a WXP machine that I'm trying to use to print to a
LaserJet 1300 using LPR. The LJ1300 is connected to an
SMC 7002BR as a print server according to
http://www.smc.com/drivers_downloads/library/Barricade_XP_
LPRPrinting.pdf.

While it works fine with the PCL and PS drivers over USB,
directly from the computer, I almost always get raw PCL
or PS on the page when printing via the print server.
I've got the default set to raw in the printer driver
setup, but I suspect someone is switching it to EMF; in
fact, I've made it fail once and seen that XP is
reporting back that it couldn't print an EMF 1.008 file.

I have seen it work correctly via the PS driver at least
once or twice; I have no idea what I did differently
those times to make it work.

I did find an earlier suggestion to follow
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q
168/4/57.ASP&NoWebContent=1 and set LpdPrinterPassThrough
and LpdPrinterDontDetect to 1 and 0, respectively. I
tried setting LpdPrinterPassThrough to 1 and rebooting,
but it didn't help. I didn't set LpdPrinterDontDetect
and neither seemed to be created automatically by XP even
after trying to print.

I've also tried tips in
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/prncnfg.asp,
and I've looked at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-
US;132460.

Suggestions?

Thanks,

Bill
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Alan,

Thanks. I tried that immediately on the PCL driver, and
it gave me gibberish again.

I then tried it on the PS driver, and it gave me _good
results_! A good sign, so I tried it again.
Unfortunately, that time I got nothing ... the light on
the printer flashed as if it were getting data, and then
no paper moved.

If I had to give up on booklets, I could live with that.
For the few times I need those, I can use pstricks or
even walk the computer to the printer and use the USB
connection.

Because I was interrupted in the middle of doing that
test, I decided to repeat it to make sure to document
some seeming anomalous results.

I turned advanced features back on, cycled power on the
printer, turned advanced features _off_, and printed a
page from Word using the PS driver. It downloaded data
but didn't move the paper. Then I tried a test page from
the driver, and still no paper movement.

When I turned advanced features back on and tried the
test page from the driver, I got raw PS on the paper. I
think that's the first time I've seen the test page
corrupted.

Out of curiousity, I left advanced printing off and
rebooted the print server. It moved paper and printed
correctly! I tried again, and no paper movement. I
rebooted the print server and tried again, and it worked
again! I tried a third time, and the print job failed
according to XP with the printer light still flashing. I
reset the printer and rebooted the print server, and it
worked again.

I even noticed that the SMC 7004BR does give printer
status information back to the SMC Web admin page, but
all it seems to let me do is kill a job that's printing.
So I then watched that page while printing the _second_
job after a print server reboot, and it had a status
of "printing" while the data was being downloaded and
then "ready", with no paper movement.

I'm guessing I don't know the real cause, but it appears
fixable by turning off advance printing and rebooting the
NAT router/print server after each print job. :-( I
guess my next step is to go back to the places that
discuss SMC routers.

Thanks for your help. If anyone has any ideas of other
ways to make XP say the right things to get PS through to
the printer to render, I'm all ears, but I suspect my
best chances, slim as they are, lie in fixing the SMC.

Bill
 
In case anyone has been following this thread and has a similar problem,
someone in the SMC forum on http://www.dslreports.com gave me the answer
this morning: turn byte counting on, not off as the SMC documentation
says.

I was sure I had tried that, but I did again, and it's printed multiple
short documents successfully using both the PS and PCL drivers. I've
even got advanced printing features turned back on now, and it's still
working.

While I don't understand fully what's going on, I'm happy as long as
it's happy.

Bill
 
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