Laptop stolen; want to install XP on new laptop

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Hello,

My daughter had her laptop stolen. It had Windows XP Home installed. She
bought a new laptop (refurbished) which came with Windows 98. I still have
the disk (Windows XP Home) and would like to install XP onto the new
computer. However, I know that this version of XP was registered to the old
computer. What can I do? The thief should not profit from my loss.

Thanks, Jim
 
Hello David,
You don't think there will be any problems getting updates? Even though the
original version of XP was registered to the stolen laptop?
Jim
 
When your laptop was stolen, the Windows XP
license was also stolen. You'll have to purchase
a new version of Windows XP.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

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| Hello,
|
| My daughter had her laptop stolen. It had Windows XP Home installed. She
| bought a new laptop (refurbished) which came with Windows 98. I still have
| the disk (Windows XP Home) and would like to install XP onto the new
| computer. However, I know that this version of XP was registered to the old
| computer. What can I do? The thief should not profit from my loss.
|
| Thanks, Jim
 
How can the license be transferred. Are you saying a theft should transfer rights? Remember one of 6 essential elements is that an enforceabe contract must be in accord with public policy. Plus how does one steal a perpetual right to use.
 
The correct answer is that the thief is pirating XP. There was no transfer of license.
 
I've tried to reply now 3 times... I believe you are right. There was no
transfer of license. However, I am worried that after I install XP, I may not
be able to get updates to the software, because someone else out there has my
daughter's computer with my registered version of XP on it.
Jim
 
If it's a retail or upgrade version it's fine. How many yimews do I have to say this.
 
When your laptop was stolen, the Windows XP
license was also stolen. You'll have to purchase
a new version of Windows XP.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

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| I've tried to reply now 3 times... I believe you are right. There was no
| transfer of license. However, I am worried that after I install XP, I may not
| be able to get updates to the software, because someone else out there has my
| daughter's computer with my registered version of XP on it.
| Jim
 
Carey said:
When your laptop was stolen, the Windows XP
license was also stolen. You'll have to purchase
a new version of Windows XP.
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Carey,

This is only true *if* the copy of Windows XP installed on the laptop was an
OEM, Truthfully, this sounds likely in most cases, but given that somehow
this person bought a new (refurbished) laptop (NOW) and it came with
Windows 98 installed on it, it is entirely likely their old laptop also came
with an older version of the OS and they had indeed, purchased an upgrade
version of Windows XP.

*If* they had bought a retail or upgrade version of Windows XP to take the
old laptop from Windows whatever to Windows XP, then as llong as they still
hold the license agreement for that copy - it is theirs to do with as they
please.

Not to mention that from a totally non-legal standpoint - if it has been
more than 120 days since they activated the copy of Windows XP on the
Internet anyway - they won't have any trouble in 99% of the cases.

Can it be installed and the user have no trouble updating in the future -
yes, if we were given all the information.

No where did the OP explain whether or not the copy of Windows XP in
question that was installed on the original laptop was an OEM copy (that
came with the original laptop or they purchased and used to clean install
Windows XP onto the original laptop) or if it was an UPGRADE copy or full
RETAIL copy. If it was the latter, then even in the most obscure legal
terms, they have a full right to now install it on another machine as for
all intents and purposes (legally - for them) - the previous installation
was undone when the laptop was stolen/destroyed (in legal terms.) With the
OEM copy - it is not as clear as all that - but from a totally technical
standpoint, unless the copy of Windows XP was suited only to the original
laptop in some way (unlikely - but possible) - it will be easily installed
and activated - given the 120 day activation timeframe has passed - and
they will notice no ill effects EVER with updates/patches..
 
Was Windows XP OEM or Retail?

If Windows XP is retail and you still have the original CD, Product
Key etc, you still own the right to install it on another computer.
Whether it was activated/registered on the original computer makes no
difference.
However if Windows XP is OEM, it was stolen with the computer and
needs to be included in the police report as well as insurance claims.
Normally OEM is permanently tied to the original computer regardless
the condition of the original computer.
 
Following your logic, if the OP has the serial number of the stolen laptop,
all they need to do is contact the manufacturer of the laptop, provide
them with the stolen laptop's serial number, and the manufacturer will
gladly send them a new laptop.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

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| Carey,
|
| This is only true *if* the copy of Windows XP installed on the laptop was an
| OEM, Truthfully, this sounds likely in most cases, but given that somehow
| this person bought a new (refurbished) laptop (NOW) and it came with
| Windows 98 installed on it, it is entirely likely their old laptop also came
| with an older version of the OS and they had indeed, purchased an upgrade
| version of Windows XP.
|
| *If* they had bought a retail or upgrade version of Windows XP to take the
| old laptop from Windows whatever to Windows XP, then as llong as they still
| hold the license agreement for that copy - it is theirs to do with as they
| please.
|
| Not to mention that from a totally non-legal standpoint - if it has been
| more than 120 days since they activated the copy of Windows XP on the
| Internet anyway - they won't have any trouble in 99% of the cases.
|
| Can it be installed and the user have no trouble updating in the future -
| yes, if we were given all the information.
|
| No where did the OP explain whether or not the copy of Windows XP in
| question that was installed on the original laptop was an OEM copy (that
| came with the original laptop or they purchased and used to clean install
| Windows XP onto the original laptop) or if it was an UPGRADE copy or full
| RETAIL copy. If it was the latter, then even in the most obscure legal
| terms, they have a full right to now install it on another machine as for
| all intents and purposes (legally - for them) - the previous installation
| was undone when the laptop was stolen/destroyed (in legal terms.) With the
| OEM copy - it is not as clear as all that - but from a totally technical
| standpoint, unless the copy of Windows XP was suited only to the original
| laptop in some way (unlikely - but possible) - it will be easily installed
| and activated - given the 120 day activation timeframe has passed - and
| they will notice no ill effects EVER with updates/patches..
|
| --
| <- Shenan ->
| --
| The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
| yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
| responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
| getting into before you jump in with both feet.
|
|
 
jjprzy said:
Hello,

My daughter had her laptop stolen. It had Windows XP Home installed. She
bought a new laptop (refurbished) which came with Windows 98. I still
have
the disk (Windows XP Home) and would like to install XP onto the new
computer. However, I know that this version of XP was registered to the
old
computer. What can I do? The thief should not profit from my loss.

Thanks, Jim
Click to expand...

Get the software stuck in it. You`ll have no problems.
 
Shenan said:
This is only true *if* the copy of Windows XP installed on the
laptop was an OEM, Truthfully, this sounds likely in most cases,
but given that somehow this person bought a new (refurbished) laptop
(NOW) and it came with Windows 98 installed on it, it is entirely
likely their old laptop also came with an older version of the OS
and they had indeed, purchased an upgrade version of Windows XP.

*If* they had bought a retail or upgrade version of Windows XP to
take the old laptop from Windows whatever to Windows XP, then as
long as they still hold the license agreement for that copy - it is
theirs to do with as they please.

Not to mention that from a totally non-legal standpoint - if it has
been more than 120 days since they activated the copy of Windows XP
on the Internet anyway - they won't have any trouble in 99% of the
cases.

Can it be installed and the user have no trouble updating in the
future - yes, if we were given all the information.

No where did the OP explain whether or not the copy of Windows XP in
question that was installed on the original laptop was an OEM copy
(that came with the original laptop or they purchased and used to
clean install Windows XP onto the original laptop) or if it was an
UPGRADE copy or full RETAIL copy. If it was the latter, then even
in the most obscure legal terms, they have a full right to now
install it on another machine as for all intents and purposes
(legally - for them) - the previous installation was undone when the
laptop was stolen/destroyed (in legal terms.) With the OEM copy -
it is not as clear as all that - but from a totally technical
standpoint, unless the copy of Windows XP was suited only to the
original laptop in some way (unlikely - but possible) - it will be
easily installed and activated - given the 120 day activation
timeframe has passed - and they will notice no ill effects EVER with
updates/patches..
Click to expand...
Following your logic, if the OP has the serial number of the stolen
laptop, all they need to do is contact the manufacturer of the
laptop, provide them with the stolen laptop's serial number, and the
manufacturer will gladly send them a new laptop.
Click to expand...

No.

Following my logic and the EULA, the OP purchased (if they purchased a
retail/upgrade version of Windows XP) "the right to install and use" - not
an actual product as in the case of the laptop, where they purchased an
actual physical object.

The difference is in what they purchased.

Laptop - the physical object - portable computer (obviously too portable.
*grin*).
Windows XP (Retail or Upgrade) - the right to install and use on one
computer (license).

It's harder to steal a "right to install and use" (license) than the laptop
itself. If they still have the receipt/proof of purchase/COA - then that
license for Windows XP (retail/upgrade version) is still theirs - no matter
where they decide to put it.
 
That's how I see it as well.

Jupiter Jones said:
Was Windows XP OEM or Retail?

If Windows XP is retail and you still have the original CD, Product
Key etc, you still own the right to install it on another computer.
Whether it was activated/registered on the original computer makes no
difference.
However if Windows XP is OEM, it was stolen with the computer and
needs to be included in the police report as well as insurance claims.
Normally OEM is permanently tied to the original computer regardless
the condition of the original computer.
Click to expand...
 
Are you like..... a retarded person?
Do you actually idiot proof your posts prior sending them? guess not.
 
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