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MikeM
I read on a web site that LaCie drives are top for reliability, based
on a web survey. Is this a general opinion?
Thanks
Mike
on a web survey. Is this a general opinion?
Thanks
Mike
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Paul
MikeM said:
Say I take a box, and I put a Maxtor/Seagate/Samsung/Hitachi or
some other manufacturer's drive in it. How is the reliability
determined ? By the underlying drive mechanism. Lacie doesn't make
drives themselves, and they use someone else's drives to offer
you products.
You'd need to know what brand of drive they used, to know something
about the expected reliability. And at the best of times that
can be hard to predict. While I have my favorite brands, not
everyone shares my opinion.
I selected this customer review purely at random from a Newegg
listing of Lacie products, and this doesn't look good. One
thing I noticed, is there are not a lot of customer reviews
filed for LaCie products, which means either not many people are
buying them or no one felt a need to write a review. Compare
that to the 100's of reviews written for motherboards.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?Item=N82E16822154070
I think finding a decent enclosure, and picking up a hard
drive and making a DIY product, is going to bring you
just as much satisfaction. Look on the Newegg site for
raw drives, and read the customer reviews to see which brands
caused grief for their customers.
As for enclosures, I like an enclosure with a fan. I also like
to see good sized vent holes, so the fan can actually pull air
into the enclosure. There are a number of enclosures, that attempt
to use conduction, or simply ignore the potential for the
enclosure to get hot. It is surprising how much money you have
to spend, to get a well designed enclosure, when you know they
can buy a fan for $1 if they wanted to. The life of the drive
is partially determined by its operating temperature (and
relative humidity), so a well ventilated enclosure will
encourage the drive to last a bit longer.
Paul
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Rod Speed
MikeM said:
Nope, its pure bullshit.
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Spajky
I did it myself: on my site under Comp/mods ...
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Jan Alter
Why?
What facts do you have to support that claim?
Jan Alter
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Rod Speed
Because it is.
That web site made that claim.
It gets to provide the evidence to substantiate that claim.
THATS how it works.
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John Doe
nospam said:
Hopefully by you, the seller.
Lots of ways, but your customer doesn't have to determine that.
A company that re-brands products is suspect?
Or you could know by how reliable their products usually are.
I don't follow your argument. Are you saying that re-branded
products are bad?
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Jan Alter
It's possible the evidence is there but simply was not sent by the OP. MaybeRod Speed said:
he can elucidate to give that information. I'd actually be interested in the
website claiming the reliability before the dastardly label of "bullshit" is
imposed. And if no facts come forth I'd probably leave it at ka-ka. Bullshit
is such a harsh word.
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MikeM
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Rod Speed
Possible, but very unlikely. No one has any access to the only data
that matters, the return rate seen with all hard drive manufacturers.
The most that might be available is the return rate seen
by one of the major retaillers of hard drives, and even
that isnt statistically very useful because one of the hard
drive manufacturers may do the returns so conveniently
that few bother to return a failed drive via the retailler.
Bet he wont.
Some of us have enough of a clue about the
basics like who actually has accurate reliability
data to know that that wont be on any web site.
But accurate in this particular case.
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Rod Speed
Like I said, pure bullshit.
MikeM said:
J
Jan Alter
You could easily argue for the perfection of the data, especially about with
the time frame that the reports were tallied. It's hardly perfect. However,
with my own experience and reading stories from others who compute and build
their own machines I've got my own opinion and would count Maxtor at the
bottom of the heap in the past ten years.
A lot of this also has to factor with just how many drives are being sold
by each manufacturer. My thoughts are that both Maxtor and WD probably have
the largest sales and so would also have the largest incidence of returns,
unless their quality is something extraordinary, which clearly it isn't.
Both Lacie and Iomega produce a smaller number of drives in comparison (and
I'm unclear if each company's drives are their own make or simply rebadged)
and so look that much the better in the complaint department even if their
drives are equal or possibly a little worse than Maxtor and WD. But for me
to accept that Lacie and Iomega are clearly better than Maxtor or WD would
take a lot of faith from the information presented. Still, it's hardly
bullshit. It's just ordinary ka-ka.
the time frame that the reports were tallied. It's hardly perfect. However,
with my own experience and reading stories from others who compute and build
their own machines I've got my own opinion and would count Maxtor at the
bottom of the heap in the past ten years.
A lot of this also has to factor with just how many drives are being sold
by each manufacturer. My thoughts are that both Maxtor and WD probably have
the largest sales and so would also have the largest incidence of returns,
unless their quality is something extraordinary, which clearly it isn't.
Both Lacie and Iomega produce a smaller number of drives in comparison (and
I'm unclear if each company's drives are their own make or simply rebadged)
and so look that much the better in the complaint department even if their
drives are equal or possibly a little worse than Maxtor and WD. But for me
to accept that Lacie and Iomega are clearly better than Maxtor or WD would
take a lot of faith from the information presented. Still, it's hardly
bullshit. It's just ordinary ka-ka.
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Rod Speed
Jan Alter said:
Its actually pathetic.
Yes, but there isnt any evidence that LaCie is at the top.
Yes, that's the other problem with that pathetic excuse for a site.
Thats doubtful.
There is some evidence that Maxtor's is
rather poor, particulary their external drives.
Correct. Another reason why that site is pure bullshit.
Neither make hard drives.
Yes, thats the most obvious problem with that pathetic excuse for a site.
I just use the word bullshit instead of shit.