Kerio Update Available

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Was just notified that Kerio Personal 4.1.0 is now available for
download.

I did the upgrade and now it no longer works. If it ain't broke don't
fix it. I get an error message that I have the wrong drivers. Huh?
I'm not a computer person.
 
I use the old version on XP pro , uninstall yours & install this version .
http://eu.download.kerio.com/dwn/kpf/kpf2-en-win.exe

If that is v.2.1.5, and I suspect that it is, then I also would strongly
recommend it too.

I tried the later, flashier, versions and dropped them rapidly even though
they did work and seem to be effective. The earlier version needs more
understanding of devising your own rules for complete flexibility of use,
but the default settings will suffice at first and learning how to
configure rules to suit you own usage isn't rocket science. If I've managed
it, most people should be able to!

Cheers,

Roy
 
On 15 Sep 2004 04:26:28 -0700, John wrote:
If that is v.2.1.5, and I suspect that it is, then I also would strongly
recommend it too.

< snip >

Yet another mention of 2.1.5. It might be better than "recent"
releases BUT can someone here please give me a summary as to why
they think it is better than Zone Alarm please ? I have used both and
cannot see why Kerio is better.

TIA.

Regards, John.
 
Installed 4.1.0 on Win2000 SP4 - gets BSOD with irql_not_less_or_equal
on system start-up. Cannot use the PC. Cannot uninstall in Safe mode
- Windows uninstaller service will not start.

On boot, select last known good config.
 
John Fitzsimons said:
< snip >

Yet another mention of 2.1.5. It might be better than "recent"
releases BUT can someone here please give me a summary as to why
they think it is better than Zone Alarm please ? I have used both and
cannot see why Kerio is better.

TIA.

Regards, John.

In my case John , the 1st firewall I installed was Kerio with 95 ,
then 98 & now Xp pro , using v.2.1.5
It has done the job perfectly , so I have never tried any others .

Cheers .
 
In my case John , the 1st firewall I installed was Kerio with 95 ,
then 98 & now Xp pro , using v.2.1.5
It has done the job perfectly , so I have never tried any others .

So basically you don't have a clue about what you're talking about.
 
< snip >

Yet another mention of 2.1.5. It might be better than "recent"
releases BUT can someone here please give me a summary as to why
they think it is better than Zone Alarm please ? I have used both and
cannot see why Kerio is better.

We talking about zone alarm free versus kerio?

Zone alarm free does not allow you to fine tune your firewall rules for
one. Unless things have changed, in zone alarm free, you cannot specify
specific ports or ip ranges that can be used by applications. Either you
allow an application outgoing rights, or you don't, there is no middle
ground. Similar for inbound connections which ZA calls "server rights".

Zone alarm is also "heavier" than Kerio 2.15 I believe.
 
Yet another mention of 2.1.5. It might be better than "recent"
releases BUT can someone here please give me a summary as to why
they think it is better than Zone Alarm please ? I have used both and
cannot see why Kerio is better.

TIA.

The reason I use Kerio 2.1.5 is because it allows me to devise my own rules
to suit my own purposes very easily. I didn't find that with later versions
of the same product, which /looked/ very nice with flashy graphs etc., but
maybe that was my own fault, but I've heard others say similar things.
Later versions are also considerably bloated as a result of the flashy
stuff. However, the user isn't expected to know from the outset how to set
up rules. Read its help file on basic configuration first, and continue
from there.

I think it's better than ZoneAlarm for the same reasons as above, but I've
not tried recent versions so I may be doing ZoneAlarm an injustice. I used
ZoneAlarm, the free and pro versions, for years without any problems *but*,
as soon as I installed it on a machine with XP I soon experienced problems.
I found that Internet connectivity become very problematic, sometimes not
working at all. I eliminated, to my own satisfaction, every likely cause
except that firewall. I then experimented with every possible setting of
ZoneAlarm, again both the free and the paid for versions, without success.

Its *complete* removal, and replacement by first Tiny and then Kerio,
solved all those problems completely. *Complete* removal of ZoneAlarm
should not be entered into lightly! That's a story in itself.

I've heard very similar reports from other users, and also completely
contradictory ones from others with /apparently/ exactly the same systems.
I've heard similar reports ever since it was running on W95! It's a
complete mess for some people, a complete success for others.

The answer is suck it and see what works and doesn't work on your PC. But
just be aware the if you can't get on with ZoneAlarm, be sure to read, and
print out, the very comprehensive removal instructions on their site first.
Make sure you've plenty of time to jump through all the hoops too. :-)

Cheers,

Roy
 
Roy said:
The reason I use Kerio 2.1.5 is because it allows me to devise my own rules
to suit my own purposes very easily. I didn't find that with later versions
of the same product, which /looked/ very nice with flashy graphs etc., but
maybe that was my own fault, but I've heard others say similar things.
Later versions are also considerably bloated as a result of the flashy
stuff. However, the user isn't expected to know from the outset how to set
up rules. Read its help file on basic configuration first, and continue
from there.

I think it's better than ZoneAlarm for the same reasons as above, but I've
not tried recent versions so I may be doing ZoneAlarm an injustice. I used
ZoneAlarm, the free and pro versions, for years without any problems *but*,
as soon as I installed it on a machine with XP I soon experienced problems.
I found that Internet connectivity become very problematic, sometimes not
working at all. I eliminated, to my own satisfaction, every likely cause
except that firewall. I then experimented with every possible setting of
ZoneAlarm, again both the free and the paid for versions, without success.

Its *complete* removal, and replacement by first Tiny and then Kerio,
solved all those problems completely. *Complete* removal of ZoneAlarm
should not be entered into lightly! That's a story in itself.

I've heard very similar reports from other users, and also completely
contradictory ones from others with /apparently/ exactly the same systems.
I've heard similar reports ever since it was running on W95! It's a
complete mess for some people, a complete success for others.

The answer is suck it and see what works and doesn't work on your PC. But
just be aware the if you can't get on with ZoneAlarm, be sure to read, and
print out, the very comprehensive removal instructions on their site first.
Make sure you've plenty of time to jump through all the hoops too. :-)

Will Kerio 2.1.5 block programs from running other programs and/or using
other programs to make an outgoing connection? I'm using 4.1 at the moment.
 
tmw99999 said:
Will Kerio 2.1.5 block programs from running other programs and/or using
other programs to make an outgoing connection? I'm using 4.1 at the moment.

No, Kerio 2 won't do that. 4 will, as you know.
 
We talking about zone alarm free versus kerio?
Zone alarm free does not allow you to fine tune your firewall rules for
one. Unless things have changed, in zone alarm free, you cannot specify
specific ports or ip ranges that can be used by applications. Either you
allow an application outgoing rights, or you don't, there is no middle
ground. Similar for inbound connections which ZA calls "server rights".

Ah !! Thanks. I had a vague idea that there actually was a good
reason for people preferring Kerio. Though I had forgotten it. :-(

Now, could someone point me to a "how to" to restrict eg. Firefox to
(A) a specific port (B) a specific ip range ? And/or give a "how to"
here please ?

TIA.

Regards, John.
 
Kerodo said:
tmw99999 says...

No, Kerio 2 won't do that. 4 will, as you know.

Ah, then I will stick with the current version. I use WMP10 for videos,
sometimes, but I don't want it doing anything but playing them. When WMP10
starts it tries to contact windowsmedia.com with HTTP and start
setup_wm.exe, both of which I blocked. Kerio 4.1 lets me stream in videos
but keeps WMP from doing anything else. This is good. Byte Me, M$!
 
Will Kerio 2.1.5 block programs from running other programs and/or using
other programs to make an outgoing connection? I'm using 4.1 at the moment.
--

Anything trying to make an outgoing connection for the first time, or where
you haven't already set up a rule to allow it to do so, will automatically
trigger an alert, allowing you to say yes or no, and create a specific
customised rule if you wish. Customising allows you to specify the
originating application, the destination of the outgoing call, and the port
to be used. If you subsequently examine the rule which you have created 'on
the fly', you can amend or tweak it to do what you require. You'll know
what you require with a little experience if not at first.

Cheers,

Roy
 
John Fitzsimons ( Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:58:56 +1000 ) to alt.comp.freeware:
Yet another mention of 2.1.5. It might be better than "recent"
releases BUT can someone here please give me a summary as to why
they think it is better than Zone Alarm please ? I have used both and
cannot see why Kerio is better.

My opinions about Kerio:

- better configuration
- does not break P2P/file sharing programs, just because they use lots of
incoming connections
- does not break other stuff as ZA does with YENC files.

[]s
 
Ah !! Thanks. I had a vague idea that there actually was a good
reason for people preferring Kerio. Though I had forgotten it. :-(

Now, could someone point me to a "how to" to restrict eg. Firefox to
(A) a specific port (B) a specific ip range ? And/or give a "how to"
here please ?

Hmm are you kidding? It's very intutive. Just right click on the kerio icon
(select administration), click "advanced" button, create your own rule,
choose "outgoing", "TCP/IP" etc , browse to the firefox.exe in the
application field, then alter the remote endpoint, address/ip ranges, port
ranges etc to your heart's desire.
 
Hmm are you kidding?

Nope. I stopped using it when I couldn't see why it was supposedly
better than my usual firewalls.
It's very intutive. Just right click on the kerio icon
(select administration), click "advanced" button, create your own rule,
choose "outgoing", "TCP/IP" etc , browse to the firefox.exe in the
application field, then alter the remote endpoint, address/ip ranges, port
ranges etc to your heart's desire.

Okay, I will get things going again and do the above. Thanks for the
"how to". :-)

Regards, John.
 
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