keep source formatting

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I am having trouble with a very important template that I have been
designing for a client. My template is setup with a master slide that
contains a properly formatted "date area" and "number area" to
respectively display the date and slide number on each slide using this
design template.

Problem: Whenever I copy a slide from this particular design template
and then paste it into a NEW BLANK PRESENTATION (after telling it to
"Keep Source Formatting") the date area and slide number no longer
appear unless I manually Insert them. Is there any
option/trick/modification that I can explore to make these fields appear
automatically after I paste and keep source formatting?

Hope this is clear

Clint
 
I would try "applying" the template to the new blank presentation. Go to
Format > Design Template, locate the template and apply it.
 
Sonia said:
I would try "applying" the template to the new blank presentation. Go to
Format > Design Template, locate the template and apply it.
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Even when I do that....it still does not carryover the Date Area or the
Number Area.....resulting in the absence of the date and slide number?
Any more suggestions? Could I attach a portion of the template to send
to you directly as proof?
 
You can send it to sonia at soniacoleman dot com. Please include your name
and the subject, since I have a short memory. Also let me know what version
of PowerPoint you are using.
 
What's basically happening is that you have deleted the footer in your
Master, and the Date and Slide Number fields are no longer in placeholders.
The date has become a text box and so has the slide number. I didn't even
know that this could be done, but PowerPoint seems to have become confused.
If you go to View > Master > Slide Master and then go to Format > Master
Layout, you'll see that though Date and Slide Number are checked, footer is
not. In addition you have set the Date to a fixed value. So, it appears
that PowerPoint sees this as a text box on the Slide Master, so the date
shows up on each page of the current presentation. However, when you apply
the template to another presentation, only placeholders are applied. Text
boxes are not.

I have modified the .pot file to add the footer placeholder back in and set
the date to 6/18/03. I've sent you an email with the modified template
file. I recommend that you store the file where PowerPoint expects to find
templates and then it will be available to you in the Slide Design task
pane. To determine where to save it, see
http://www.soniacoleman.com/Tutorials/PowerPoint/powerpoint_templates.htm
 
Problem: Whenever I copy a slide from this particular design template
and then paste it into a NEW BLANK PRESENTATION (after telling it to
"Keep Source Formatting") the date area and slide number no longer
appear unless I manually Insert them. Is there any
option/trick/modification that I can explore to make these fields appear
automatically after I paste and keep source formatting?
Click to expand...

Do the dates/numbers appear if you paste then choose View, Header & Footer and
put checkmarks in the Date/Time and Slide Number fields then click Apply To
All?
 
What's basically happening is that you have deleted the footer in your
Master, and the Date and Slide Number fields are no longer in placeholders.
The date has become a text box and so has the slide number. I didn't even
know that this could be done, but PowerPoint seems to have become confused.
Click to expand...

I've seen this before, and sometimes it can also confuse PPT if the
placeholders have been deleted then added back, especially in older versions of
PPT. FWIW.

Partial explanation that seems to fit at least some instances: PPT creates a
shape with a new name, and not the default name, when you delete then re-add
placeholders, but some of the other routines seem to depend on the placeholder
having a default name.

See the potential for mischief?
 
I definitely see the potential for mischief. Do you suggest that I go
back and re-create my Master Slide (with the Footer explicitly
included)? I am using PowerPoint 2002, but it seems that even when I go
into the Master Layout and check off "Footer" it still does not carry
over the Slide Number and Date Area when I copy a slide from this
template into a completely new presentation (and of course clicking Keep
Source Formatting). What can I do? Any other suggestions would be
appreciated too....
 
Clint, I've changed my mind on this and on what the real problem is. You
are expecting the "fixed" date value to travel with the template and to
appear when you insert slides and specify "keep source formatting". The
fixed date setting is at the presentation level, not a part of the Master
formatting. A "blank presentation" does not have a value set for a Fixed
date. So, even though the placeholder from the inserted slides is kept, no
value shows up in the date field because none is set for the blank
presentation. Easily solved though. Just go to View > Footer and Header
and enter a value for the "Fixed" date. This value pertains to the current
presentation only.
 
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PowerPoint provide this kind of functionality (without having to enter the
fixed date manually each time you paste slides into a new blank
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