Kaylene...

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~ Free Spirit ~

On my PC "My Documents" are right under Desktop.
Under "My Documents" I see My Computer.
Under that comes Local Disk C:

How do I get ABOVE the C: in this program to reach the files in My
Documents?

FS..........
 
Have just downloaded and installed:-

Under Folder you'll see C:\
Click that and it opens up the listing of folders.
click "Documents and Settings"
Select the User Name which has the files you wish to print a listing in.
Then click the User Name and then select "My documents"
Now go to the Folder that has the listing of your files for example "My Music"
Then Click Print and it brings up the printer, select the printer and print.
Hope that helps
 
"Kaylene aka Taurarian"
Have just downloaded and installed:-

Under Folder you'll see C:\
Click that and it opens up the listing of folders.
click "Documents and Settings"
Select the User Name which has the files you wish to print a listing in.

** There is NO USER NAME under Documents and settings. It says ALL USERS.
When I click on ALL USERS nothing happens. What's supposed to happen?
All my "stuff" is in "My Documents" which is ABOVE C:\ .
Then click the User Name and then select "My documents"

** How do I get "User Name" there???? There is no "User Name." Just ALL
USERS, an empty folder.
Now go to the Folder that has the listing of your files for example "My
Music"

** See above....
Then Click Print and it brings up the printer, select the printer and print.
Hope that helps

** How do I get MY DOCUMENTS down there???? That folder is ABOVE C:\ =
not UNDER it as in W98.

FS........
 
"Kaylene aka Taurarian"
What happens when you click on "my documents" above the C:
===============
You can't click on anything ABOVE C: so I created a new folder BELOW C:
and copied EVERYTHING to it which is a real waste of disk space. THAT
WORKED! I was able to print them from there. So now everything is on my
PC twice, both under My Documents and again under C:\ . I somehow need
to copy and paste this list to send to some friends. I'm so tired, too
tired to look and see if that's even possible - If not I hope my scanner
can scan these pages and I'll send them as jpgs. I can't understand why
MS has it this way. Don't other people have to send/print lists of what
they have in their files?

Thank you so much for all the help Kaylene. I really do appreciate it.
Now I'm hopping into bed for a few hours of sleep!

FS................
 
Instead of using the Print option - Use the Save to Disk and it creates a .txt
file which can be opened in Notepad or Word or any word processing program. Just
make sure you save it to a place you can find for example in "my documents".
You'll have to edit the list a bit before emailing.

I'm also ready to go now, it's 10:05 PM here and work tomorrow. Goodnight ~Free
Spirit~

Kaylene aka Taurarian
from Australia
 
~ Free Spirit ~ said:
"Kaylene aka Taurarian"

===============
You can't click on anything ABOVE C: so I created a new folder BELOW
C: and copied EVERYTHING to it which is a real waste of disk space.
THAT WORKED! I was able to print them from there. So now everything
is on my PC twice, both under My Documents and again under C:\ . I
somehow need to copy and paste this list to send to some friends.
I'm so tired, too tired to look and see if that's even possible - If
not I hope my scanner can scan these pages and I'll send them as
jpgs. I can't understand why MS has it this way. Don't other people
have to send/print lists of what they have in their files?

Thank you so much for all the help Kaylene. I really do appreciate
it. Now I'm hopping into bed for a few hours of sleep!

FS................

Did you create a User or are you logging on as Administrator?
WinXP Home or Pro?
You should NOT be using Administrator for normal use. It is your emergency
fallback if your User profile quits working.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
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FreeSpirit... I strongly suggest you go and buy a copy of Windows XP for
Dummies book. Note I'm NOT calling you a dummy here, the For Dummies series
are an excellent series of books aimed at the absolute beginner. No offence
but you seem to need a level of help you're not likely to get from the
newsgroups until you have a basic understanding of how Windows works....

I'ev already guided you through how to get a directory listing into a text
file, which you should then have been able to open in notepad and print, but
it seems not to have helped. I guess I was assuming a basic understanding
of Windows so my apologies. I'll try to show you how again, without using
any extra software. Try the following steps:

1) Click START, then click RUN
2) Type in CMD in the window which opens and click OK, a black window will
appear. This is the windows Command Prompt
3) You now need to access the directory where your midi files are. For
example: If the were located in the folder "c:\music\midi", then you would
type "CD C:\music\midi" and press the enter key. Do not include the
quotation marks.
I would guess that your midi files are located in your "My Documents"
folder? These seems to be what you are saying. To access this folder, you
would need something like "CD C:\Documents & Settings\FreeSpirit\My
Documents". Note that may not be the exact path, as I cannot know your user
name (where I have put FreeSpirit). You can find the correct path easily
enough by right clicking on one of your midi files and choosing PROPERTIES
from the popup menu, then look for a field like LOCATION, this will tell you
the exact path.
4) Once in the correct folder, type "DIR *.MID > midifiles.txt" and press
enter. This will create a text file MIDIFILES.TXT holding a list of all the
midi files in the folder.
5) In Explorer, browse to your midi files folder, locate the MIDIFILES.TXT
file and double click it to open it in notepad, then click the File -> Print
menu option...

Hope that helps, but honestly, DO buy yourself a beginners book... It'll
help you immensely...

Lorne
 
FreeSpirit... I strongly suggest you go and buy a copy of Windows XP for
Dummies book. Note I'm NOT calling you a dummy here, the For Dummies series
are an excellent series of books aimed at the absolute beginner. No offence
but you seem to need a level of help you're not likely to get from the
newsgroups until you have a basic understanding of how Windows works....
Lorne, have you considered the possibility that Free Spirit could be
just trolling?
Mad? Subscribe to VITUPERATIONS - you'll get madder, and you'll like it!
 
"Kaylene aka Taurarian"
Instead of using the Print option - Use the Save to Disk and it creates a .txt
file which can be opened in Notepad or Word or any word processing program. Just
make sure you save it to a place you can find for example in "my documents".
You'll have to edit the list a bit before emailing.
=================
Hi Kaylene. THAT WORKED!!!! :-))) YES! YES!!!! It worked!
Weeeeeeeee.......
Thanks again for your patience and help.
--
FS......
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"Go for younger men. You might as well, they never mature anyway."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~{@
 
Frank Saunders said:
Did you create a User or are you logging on as Administrator?
WinXP Home or Pro?

$$ I use XP-Home-SP1 so I don't think there is an Adm' option. If there
is, we're not using it. My husband has his own PC and doesn't spend much
time on this one unless I need help with something.
You should NOT be using Administrator for normal use. It is your emergency
fallback if your User profile quits working.

$$ I'm having some difficulty with all the folders being split up as they
are. Some are under Desktop (and above C:\) and others' are under Local
Disk C:\ like in W98. Very confusing...... Do they ALL belong under C:\
?
--
FS......
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"Go for younger men. You might as well, they never mature anyway."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~{@
 
Lorne Smith said:
FreeSpirit... I strongly suggest you go and buy a copy of Windows XP for
Dummies book.

** I have that book and it's not great for trouble shooting at all. Also
with 4 different indexes it's not easy to find certain information.

Note I'm NOT calling you a dummy here, the For Dummies series
are an excellent series of books aimed at the absolute beginner. No offence
but you seem to need a level of help you're not likely to get from the
newsgroups until you have a basic understanding of how Windows works....

** I have a GREAT understanding of how W98 works as I had it several years
(and W95 before that). This PC with XP works a lot differently.
I'ev already guided you through how to get a directory listing into a text
file, which you should then have been able to open in notepad and print, but
it seems not to have helped. I guess I was assuming a basic understanding
of Windows so my apologies. I'll try to show you how again, without using
any extra software. Try the following steps:

** Some of the advice and help I received here was way over what the
average person can understand. The tech "terminology" gets in the way.
1) Click START, then click RUN
2) Type in CMD in the window which opens and click OK, a black window will
appear. This is the windows Command Prompt

** Which my friends call the DOS WINDOW. See what I mean? :(
3) You now need to access the directory where your midi files are. For
example: If the were located in the folder "c:\music\midi", then you would
type "CD C:\music\midi" and press the enter key. Do not include the
quotation marks.

** OK... I couldn't do this because nothing was under C:\ it was all
under Desktop/My Documents. When I typed it in I got this: "Desktop is
not recognized as an internal or external command" is what I got in the
prompt window. No one told me these things belong UNDER Local Disk C:\.
All my private files were under Desktop/My Documents.
I would guess that your midi files are located in your "My Documents"
folder? These seems to be what you are saying. To access this folder, you
would need something like "CD C:\Documents & Settings\FreeSpirit\My
Documents".

** See above. This version of WXP-Home has the My Documents folder UNDER
Desktop, not UNDER C:\ which I believe caused this problem. Should I move
everything UNDER Local Disk C:\ ?

Note that may not be the exact path, as I cannot know your user
name (where I have put FreeSpirit). You can find the correct path easily
enough by right clicking on one of your midi files and choosing PROPERTIES
from the popup menu, then look for a field like LOCATION, this will tell you
the exact path.
4) Once in the correct folder, type "DIR *.MID > midifiles.txt" and press
enter. This will create a text file MIDIFILES.TXT holding a list of all the
midi files in the folder.
5) In Explorer, browse to your midi files folder, locate the MIDIFILES.TXT
file and double click it to open it in notepad, then click the File -> Print
menu option...

** OK... to do this they have to be BELOW Local Disk C: and NOT where
theywere last night. I made a NEW folder under Local Disk C: and copied
EVERYTHING from My Documents under Desktop to that new folder. I will see
if that works. It should.
Hope that helps, but honestly, DO buy yourself a beginners book... It'll
help you immensely...

Lorne

** I HAVE windows XP for Dummies and there is nothing about where your
personal files belong - under Desktop or under C:\ There is nothing we
could find on how to print or C&Paste from a folder.
--
FS......
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"Go for younger men. You might as well, they never mature anyway."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~{@
 
Lorne Smith said:
1) Click START, then click RUN
2) Type in CMD in the window which opens and click OK, a black window will
appear. This is the windows Command Prompt
3) You now need to access the directory where your midi files are. For
example: If the were located in the folder "c:\music\midi", then you would
type "CD C:\music\midi" and press the enter key. Do not include the
quotation marks.
I would guess that your midi files are located in your "My Documents"
folder? These seems to be what you are saying. To access this folder, you
would need something like "CD C:\Documents & Settings\FreeSpirit\My
Documents". Note that may not be the exact path, as I cannot know your user
name (where I have put FreeSpirit). You can find the correct path easily
enough by right clicking on one of your midi files and choosing PROPERTIES
from the popup menu, then look for a field like LOCATION, this will tell you
the exact path.
4) Once in the correct folder, type "DIR *.MID > midifiles.txt" and press
enter. This will create a text file MIDIFILES.TXT holding a list of all the
midi files in the folder.
5) In Explorer, browse to your midi files folder, locate the MIDIFILES.TXT
file and double click it to open it in notepad, then click the File -> Print
menu option...
======================
OK I did that,.... and this is what I get with W-XP-Home addition:

Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 5C03-2A89

Directory of C:\CAROLS STUFF\WAV

---------THAT WAS ALL!!!!---- and the second time I got this:

All Users

-------------------------------------
There was "NO LIST" of the over 200 wav files in the folder. Just 2
useless txt files as seen above.
My Dummies book lacks these DOS commands or they're not listed in the 4
different index pages.
--
FS.....
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"Go for younger men. You might as well, they never mature anyway."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~{@
 
============
"Karen's Directory Printer" worked AFTER I copied everything from UNDER
Desktop to a new folder UNDER Local Disk C:\ . Why would I troll? I
have better things to do with my time.
--
FS......
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"Go for younger men. You might as well, they never mature anyway."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~{@
 
When in doubt REBOOT the old man at the shop used to say. I tried it
after a REBOOT,... and it worked. :-))) Now I have 2 ways to get the
list!!!! Oh, happy day!

FS.........



=====brevity snip
 
Well.. I'm glad that it worked eventually for you, but just to clarify; the
Desktop folder IS under C:\ (or whatever drive Windows is installed on),
anything that makes it appear otherwise is just a shortcut. ALL default
user folders are contained in the "\Documents & Settings\UserName"
heirarchy, unless of course you installation strays a LONG way from the
standard, which is very unlikely...

If you open Windows Explorer and browse to C:\Documents & Settings, and then
look in the folder under there, you'll see what I mean. The My Documents
folders, Desktop folders, and most others, will actually be located in
these, and the higher level ones you see in the folder tree in Explorer are
shortcuts...

Lorne
 
Please see my comments inline with yours...

~ Free Spirit ~ said:
** I have that book and it's not great for trouble shooting at all. Also
with 4 different indexes it's not easy to find certain information.

Note I'm NOT calling you a dummy here, the For Dummies series

** I have a GREAT understanding of how W98 works as I had it several years
(and W95 before that). This PC with XP works a lot differently.

If you have worked with W98 and W95, then I'm honestly surprised you don't
already have at least a basic understanding of the available DOS commands
and how to use them. These earlier versions of Windows are not TRUE
operating systems in their own right, but are actually shell's which sit
around DOS. Picture a snail in it's shell. All you see is the shell so you
would think that the shell is the snail, where in actual fact the snail is
the little creature hiding inside the shell. The shell is there to protect
the snail but that doesn't mean that the shell is the snail...

As for XP working differently. OK, it can appear that way at times, but it
isn't really that different to W95/W98.. They've just tidied the interface
up somewhat and honestly, it IS better the way it is now...
** Some of the advice and help I received here was way over what the
average person can understand. The tech "terminology" gets in the way.


** Which my friends call the DOS WINDOW. See what I mean? :(

I didn't call it a DOS window because there IS no DOS in Windows XP. There
is a Command Prompt which has DOS like commands and can execute DOS
applications, but it is not DOS. I guess you could say if it looks like
DOS, and works like DOS, then it IS DOS, but that is not the case and I
didn't want to lead you into any misconceptions.

** OK... I couldn't do this because nothing was under C:\ it was all
under Desktop/My Documents. When I typed it in I got this: "Desktop is
not recognized as an internal or external command" is what I got in the
prompt window. No one told me these things belong UNDER Local Disk C:\.
All my private files were under Desktop/My Documents.

Desktop\My Documents is a folder which is actually physically located under
the "C:\Documents & Settings\UserName" folder structure. What you see in
the explorer window is a shortcut to make it easier to get to the folder,
but it's physical location is still under C:\. The same was true with W95 &
W98, though the folder structure was slightly different...
** See above. This version of WXP-Home has the My Documents folder UNDER
Desktop, not UNDER C:\ which I believe caused this problem. Should I move
everything UNDER Local Disk C:\ ?

Note that may not be the exact path, as I cannot know your user

** OK... to do this they have to be BELOW Local Disk C: and NOT where
theywere last night. I made a NEW folder under Local Disk C: and copied
EVERYTHING from My Documents under Desktop to that new folder. I will see
if that works. It should.


** I HAVE windows XP for Dummies and there is nothing about where your
personal files belong - under Desktop or under C:\ There is nothing we
could find on how to print or C&Paste from a folder.
--

This surprises me... Admittedly I've only glanced through it when I bought
the book for my dad, but it seems to cover most of the basics so I would
expect it to at least explain basic terminoligies and techniques... Maybe
I'd better re-evaluate my opinion of the book!

Lorne
 
~ Free Spirit ~ said:
======================
OK I did that,.... and this is what I get with W-XP-Home addition:

Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 5C03-2A89

Directory of C:\CAROLS STUFF\WAV

---------THAT WAS ALL!!!!---- and the second time I got this:

All Users

-------------------------------------
There was "NO LIST" of the over 200 wav files in the folder. Just 2
useless txt files as seen above.
My Dummies book lacks these DOS commands or they're not listed in the 4
different index pages.
--
FS.....
My webpages:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/indexpage.html
"Go for younger men. You might as well, they never mature anyway."
~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~~<~~~{@ ~~~<~~{@

For MIDI files, you want dir *.mid > midifiles.txt
For WAV files, you would want dir *.wav > wavfiles.txt

The '*' character is a wildcard. Basically you are asking the computer for
a listing of all files where the 3 letters after the DOT extension are MID
or WAV...

Lorne
 
Lorne Smith said:
If you have worked with W98 and W95, then I'm honestly surprised you don't
already have at least a basic understanding of the available DOS commands
and how to use them.

** Aside from Msconfig I didn't use DOS commands. I can honestly say we
had very, very little trouble with W98. We also had an excellent book -
but few cover the things that can and do go wrong with any software.

These earlier versions of Windows are not TRUE
operating systems in their own right, but are actually shell's which sit
around DOS. Picture a snail in it's shell. All you see is the shell so you
would think that the shell is the snail, where in actual fact the snail is
the little creature hiding inside the shell. The shell is there to protect
the snail but that doesn't mean that the shell is the snail...

** Gotcha. :-)
As for XP working differently. OK, it can appear that way at times, but it
isn't really that different to W95/W98.. They've just tidied the interface
up somewhat and honestly, it IS better the way it is now...

** Well it seems to me a lot more stable, although W98 seldom locked up
on us (BOD). We seldom had any of the problems so many people bitched
about. But then we did the scan-disk, defragged, dumped unwanted
"trashfiles", ran Norton WinDr, Spybot etc. Also we're not always loading
and removing software. We download what we need and usually keep it.
There are things I like better about XP.
I didn't call it a DOS window because there IS no DOS in Windows XP. There
is a Command Prompt which has DOS like commands and can execute DOS
applications, but it is not DOS. I guess you could say if it looks like
DOS, and works like DOS, then it IS DOS, but that is not the case and I
didn't want to lead you into any misconceptions.

** I understand. This *IS* a whole new/or different OS.
Desktop\My Documents is a folder which is actually physically located under
the "C:\Documents & Settings\UserName" folder structure. What you see in
the explorer window is a shortcut to make it easier to get to the folder,
but it's physical location is still under C:\. The same was true with W95 &
W98, though the folder structure was slightly different...

** This is where the confusion comes in when in Windows Explorer in XP. I
couldn't locate my personal files there under C:\. I just looked and they
*are* there. Lots of clicks to get to them. I must have my files in 3
places now since I created another folder and copied them all there the
other night. :-(
This surprises me... Admittedly I've only glanced through it when I bought
the book for my dad, but it seems to cover most of the basics so I would
expect it to at least explain basic terminoligies and techniques... Maybe
I'd better re-evaluate my opinion of the book!

** I've seen BETTER books for Dummies, although this book does cover a lot
of ground. Also please understand there are over 700 pages in this book
and several indexes. My husband mentioned he couldn't even find reference
to some things he was looking for. It's not a book I personally would
recommend to a XP newbie.
The biggest problem I've seen with these books is most "assume" the person
has some knowledge, or knows the terminology and that isn't always the
case. Unless we have a PC problem we're not apt to start spending hours
looking up information we don't need.... human nature perhaps.

FS..........
 
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