JVM Doesnt load......

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Brett

I have windows xp. and had Kazaa on my sys. but deleted
it and since then my ie java support is gone....When i
run yahoo games or other java running programs, it cant
find it on my sys. then goes to a download screen but
its says when i download its unavailable....can anyone
help......
 
Hi Brett - You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the
following
sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

and check whether you have the MS VM installed and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/personal/support/index.html#java

There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Sept. 30, 2004, MS will apparently no longer
be distributing Java or providing any support for Java including
security fixes. (It's unclear as to how 6/26/03 court decision will
affect this) See here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/news/jre.asp, and
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ ,and more recently here:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....RBAELCFEY?type=technologyNews&storyID=3572282
so you
might want to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using
the dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java
plug-in here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3809 prior to upgrading
to v. 3810 if you didn't previous have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and
install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...icrosoft.Q810030_W2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805, from here:
http://www.download.support.safetec.net/msjavx86/msjavx86.exe
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/msjavx86.exe


For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://ftp.idilis.ro/windows/sp/jvm98/msjavwu.exe, or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...XP/com_microsoft.javavm_3809_5853/msjavwu.exe,
or here: http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2kSP4 obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 ,or here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m...l/MSJavWU_8073687b82d41db93f4c2a04af2b34d.exe

For Win2k - SP2, SP3 - you can also obtain v. 3810 from Microsoft here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

For Win2kSP4, to get 3810 from Microsoft you now have to get Q816093 from
Windows Update Catalog - use the entry for Windows 2000 SP4 (this seems to
be the only Win2k option that has it) and then find 816093 in the list. You
can find directions for using the Windows Update Catalog functions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;323166. (I am
informed by Torgeir Bakken, MVP, that if you rename the downloaded file from
here: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 to
msjavwu.exe it will then also work for SP4.)

Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select
which one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart
all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant, MVP Security, is a
tiny utility which allows you to toggle and view status of your current
Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience/SelectIEJVM/index.html

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility:
If/when you install a new version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually
select to have Sun JVM as default JVM for IE (in install), or after
install
via the JavaPlugin control panel. This generates the necessary win32
registry
entries, which must be present for the utility to know about JavaPlugin.
After that, the utility should work properly."



--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



In
 
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:55:58 -0800, Bob Horvath wrote:

Jim,
Is there an advantage or disadvantage to having one or the other
installed (Sun or MS)
Bob
 
Hi Bob - Well, the answer is kinda "Yes and No". What's happened is tha MS
"extended" Java by adding some custom stuff (that's in part what the law
suit was about). The problem is that many folks have utilized these
extensions in designing their sites, and consequently some of these sites
won't render correctly (or at least not fully correctly) using the Sun VM.
However, as time goes by there are both fewer of such sites and more
capability being added to Sun's Java, which mitigates the problem. A lot of
people survive quite well with the Sun VM alone. I normally run with just
the Sun VM and switch when very occasionally I need to render one of these
'peculiar' sites. And that's why I keep both isntalled. :) NET is MS's
answer to Java, and we'll just have to see how it all play's out in the
future.

--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



In
 
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 19:19:42 -0800, Bob Horvath wrote:
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the reply. Another question: I know that you can have
both installed, but can you have them both activated at the same time
in Options, Advanced. Ant reason to or not to?
Bob
 
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:28:42 -0800, Bob Horvath wrote:
Jim,
Again, thanks for the info.
 
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 19:19:42 -0800, "Jim Byrd"

(snip)
... NET is MS's
answer to Java, and we'll just have to see how it all play's out in the
future.

I know this is a technical site. I do not want to start a flame war
here, but why should we trust Microsoft and .Net? It seems the more
Microsoft I go with my computers, ie the more of their products I put
on my computers, the more problems I have.

When I have to upgrade one program something else breaks. Trying to
fix that break causes other problems, and when I get everything fixed
and settled down, there is another patch, upgrade, or service pack to
fix, And it starts all over.

I can't begin to tell you how much time I have spend redoing graphics
that use to work, but now are intermittently not seen in MS IE. And
it turns out the problem is with MS IE not the graphics.

Do I really want to be more Microsoft dependent?
 
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