Just say I bought Vista to play games...

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....along with a nice shiney DX10 graphics card. But wait! Where's
DX10? And what about the games - when are they coming out? So just
HOW long do we have to wait?
Methinks MS have mislead me. Isn't that unlawful?
 
They should be coming out at any time. No MS didn't mislead you. It is ready
for DX10 games, and only Vista has DX10. They aren't the ones making all the
games. Some, like FSX, are made by Microsoft but a patch coming at the end
of the year will bring DX10 features to it.

Crysis is going to be DX10, as is the next Unreal release.

But, MS never promised games to be released supporting the new DX10 at
launch. But, don't be too disappointed, all your current games will run
faster than using anything else on the market (speaking for the video
card!).
 
Hmmm, Not sure how Microsoft mislead you. They didn't promise DX10 games the
day Vista was released.

I've heard on tomshardware, that Crysis looks 90% as good under DX9.0c as it
does in DX10. In a CPU magazine article, Bungie said that Halo 2 is actually
a DX9.0c game, and that people just assume it's DX10 because it's a Vista
only release.
Probably should have waited on the DX10 card, as you don't have ATI's
offering and even if you stick with nVidia, the price probably would have
dropped.

I'd say a big shame on you for not looking to see there wasn't any DX10
games out yet.
 
Faster true..But you get first dibs on telling him to look for the latest
nvidia video drivers when he post back with having gaming issues :)


Dustin Harper said:
They should be coming out at any time. No MS didn't mislead you. It is
ready for DX10 games, and only Vista has DX10. They aren't the ones making
all the games. Some, like FSX, are made by Microsoft but a patch coming at
the end of the year will bring DX10 features to it.

Crysis is going to be DX10, as is the next Unreal release.

But, MS never promised games to be released supporting the new DX10 at
launch. But, don't be too disappointed, all your current games will run
faster than using anything else on the market (speaking for the video
card!).

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Dustin Harper
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http://www.vistarip.com

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OBTW, I think at least some, if not all the game developers\Publishers are
waiting for ATI to release their cards, before releasing their DX10 games or
updates.

Supreme Commander is billed as DX10 game, it has the Games for Windows
Certification, but it will be another couple of months before they release
the DX10 patch. Now I wonder why they didn't release the DX10 version at the
same time. If All the DX10 games and patches start popping up a week after
ATI's May launch of their card, then we'll know. it was a plot by the man!
 
They also said with Crysis to not play it or look at it on DX10 hardware
then go back to DX9. It such a difference that you won't be happy going back
to DX9. :) I am really looking forward to this game. I was (am) a big fan of
Far Cry and Crysis is going to be awesome... As long as they include some
awesome gameplay to go with the pretty graphics. :)

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Dustin Harper
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http://www.vistarip.com

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Dale M. White -LV32 said:
Hmmm, Not sure how Microsoft mislead you. They didn't promise DX10 games
the day Vista was released.

I've heard on tomshardware, that Crysis looks 90% as good under DX9.0c as
it does in DX10. In a CPU magazine article, Bungie said that Halo 2 is
actually a DX9.0c game, and that people just assume it's DX10 because it's
a Vista only release.
Probably should have waited on the DX10 card, as you don't have ATI's
offering and even if you stick with nVidia, the price probably would have
dropped.

I'd say a big shame on you for not looking to see there wasn't any DX10
games out yet.
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Yea, I'm hoping NVIDIA get's their act together and gets some decent drivers
out. I would have bought an 8800, but I'm holding off until better drivers
come out. If ATI releases their card soon with decent drivers, then I may
have to buy the competition. I like ATI, and I like NVIDIA. But, I'll buy
the better card with no brand loyalty on this one. Right now, the better
card is ATI, because it works. May not be the fastest, but it works.

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Dustin Harper
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.vistarip.com

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Dale M. White -LV32 said:
Faster true..But you get first dibs on telling him to look for the latest
nvidia video drivers when he post back with having gaming issues :)
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I'm with you, I've got 8800GTX money burning a hole in pocket, but after
reading all the problems. I'll be sticking with ATI for a while. May is ATI
released date for the X2900 series (assuming they don't push back again),
and looking at some reported specs, they have that card with 1GB of ram,
that if nothing else, just has that coolness factor to it. I'm also, wanting
to see what their Dual Core card does, assuming it really exists.

But I heard nVidia has already got the 8900 ready for release when ATI comes
out, So I'm hoping for 2 things. 1.) they perform identically (meaning both
are blistering fast) and 2. They have a bloody price war that would kill
most companies


Dustin Harper said:
Yea, I'm hoping NVIDIA get's their act together and gets some decent
drivers out. I would have bought an 8800, but I'm holding off until better
drivers come out. If ATI releases their card soon with decent drivers,
then I may have to buy the competition. I like ATI, and I like NVIDIA.
But, I'll buy the better card with no brand loyalty on this one. Right
now, the better card is ATI, because it works. May not be the fastest, but
it works.

--
Dustin Harper
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.vistarip.com

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Musicrab said:
...along with a nice shiney DX10 graphics card. But wait! Where's
DX10? And what about the games - when are they coming out? So just
HOW long do we have to wait?
Methinks MS have mislead me. Isn't that unlawful?
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me thinks you are an idiot for not doing your research and then making it
worse by doing a post like this
 
...along with a nice shiney DX10 graphics card. But wait! Where's
me thinks you are an idiot for not doing your research and then making it
worse by doing a post like this
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Thanks for that boost of confidence - but think of the obvious pleasure I'd
have deprived you of if I had done the research and then not posted here...
 
Musicrab said:
Thanks for that boost of confidence - but think of the obvious pleasure
I'd have deprived you of if I had done the research and then not posted
here...
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I think you'd have got a friendlier response if you'd simply *asked* where
DX10 was in games, which is a perfectly reasonable question if you're not
into this stuff and already aware of the answers.

Talking about being misled and about things being unlawful is getting on for
threatening lawsuits and the like, which is generally considered "Tin Foil
Hat wearer" fodder around these parts. If you _truly_ felt you had a case
against Microsoft or anyone else, I'm sure you already know the place to
discuss it would be in the offices of your lawyer, not a public forum.
 
Dale White said:
I'm with you, I've got 8800GTX money burning a hole in pocket, but after
reading all the problems. I'll be sticking with ATI for a while. May is
ATI released date for the X2900 series (assuming they don't push back
again), and looking at some reported specs, they have that card with 1GB
of ram, that if nothing else, just has that coolness factor to it. I'm
also, wanting to see what their Dual Core card does, assuming it really
exists.
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I want to see some software that actually takes advantage of these new
ubercards first myself. Not a DX10 part, but if I'm being honest my x1800XT
still feels fast enough in most things for me.
But I heard nVidia has already got the 8900 ready for release when ATI
comes out, So I'm hoping for 2 things. 1.) they perform identically
(meaning both are blistering fast) and 2. They have a bloody price war
that would kill most companies
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They'll both set prices at similar tiers. I've heard the 8900 and 8600 are
ready to roll when ATI catches up too, but Nvidia are making hay while the
sun shines at the moment. If you want to wait for the best card available
though, there's always something better 'just around the corner'.
 
My system is fast, but there is always faster. I'm waiting on Crysis and
FSX DX10 patch. I want a DX10 card, but I don't NEED one yet. And I
won't buy NVIDIA until they are done with their drivers.

I was saying that I'm planning my upgrade on FSX. But, it runs fine on
what I have now. So, I'm planning on Mid-May or so. DX10 parts, Quad
core price changes, get 4 GB of good RAM, 1.5 TB of HD space... And
Vista Ultimate, of course! I think my biggest problem is the case, though.
 
If the schedules from gamestop hold true, we'll have all sumer to dream
about it. As most of the DX10 games I'm looking for aren't coming out until
Sept (Crysis, UT 3 and Hellgate London). So I guess in that regards, I'll
have all summer to save up the fat loot and see what's new from ATI\nVidia,
Intel, AMD

Though it looks like I'll never get started on Stalker (which is proven to
be buggy anyways) since C&C 3 is due out tomorrow. Funny enough, they also
have a patch coming out today, and are already working on patch 1.02. maybe
I should wait a while on that one.

Quad core ? Now there is a tech I'll be waiting a while on. Someone's gotta
show me something good to care about the Quads at this stage. Then again,
the price is dropping....
 
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