Junk Filter

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Rolando E Creagh, MD FACS

Placing many urls in the junk mail blocked sites list, does not seems to
work for many sites, as they keep showing up.
I have look to see that they are not in the safe recipients, safe senders,
cookies, mailing list, or any other location which I am familiar with, that
might gives them priority. Are there other sites? Is there anything else
that can be done?

Perhaps I am naive to think this filter will work even to 70% of its
promises. If so, please do not hesitate to just say so and I will keep
living with it, and not bother anyone.
Thanks and cheers
 
The way the filters work are not the way you would think. Outlook does its
own analysis FIRST and if it decides that it is spam then it puts the email
in the folder you have designated for spam (junk folder, deleted folder or
permanently deleted). After that it looks at the filters
 
Rolando E Creagh said:
Placing many urls in the junk mail blocked sites list, does not seems
to work for many sites, as they keep showing up.
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Placing URLs in the Blocked Senders list is pointless. Outlook expects only
addresses or domains in that file.
I have look to see that they are not in the safe recipients, safe
senders, cookies, mailing list, or any other location which I am
familiar with, that might gives them priority. Are there other sites?
Is there anything else that can be done?
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Outlook's Safe Senders list is the only thing that will override the Blocked
Senders list. The rest (i.e., cookies, mailing list - whatever that is) are
not used by Outlook.
Perhaps I am naive to think this filter will work even to 70% of its
promises. If so, please do not hesitate to just say so and I will keep
living with it, and not bother anyone.
Click to expand...

On the whole, the Blocked Senders list is not an effective tool for managing
junk e-mail. It requires that the number of different sender addresses or
domains remain a fairly small number. Since junk mail senders constantly
change the sending address or domain, there's no way to keep up in the
Blocked Senders list. It's like catching a cold: once you've caught a
particular strain of the virus, you're immune to it for life, but
considering there are over 500 different strains of cold viruses, you can
catch five per year and still never live long enough to become immune to
them all. Just so with the Blocked Senders list. Adding a domain to it
means you'll never see another message from that particular domain, but
chances are the junk mailer won't ever use that particular domain again, so
you can see the same messages over and over, each from a different sender.
You're better off with a trainable bayesian filter like SpamBayes and a
DNSBL checker like SpamPal. Outlook's Junk E-mail filter is bayesian, but
it's not trainable by the user.
 
Thanks

Brian Tillman said:
Placing URLs in the Blocked Senders list is pointless. Outlook expects
only addresses or domains in that file.


Outlook's Safe Senders list is the only thing that will override the
Blocked Senders list. The rest (i.e., cookies, mailing list - whatever
that is) are not used by Outlook.


On the whole, the Blocked Senders list is not an effective tool for
managing junk e-mail. It requires that the number of different sender
addresses or domains remain a fairly small number. Since junk mail
senders constantly change the sending address or domain, there's no way to
keep up in the Blocked Senders list. It's like catching a cold: once
you've caught a particular strain of the virus, you're immune to it for
life, but considering there are over 500 different strains of cold
viruses, you can catch five per year and still never live long enough to
become immune to them all. Just so with the Blocked Senders list. Adding
a domain to it means you'll never see another message from that particular
domain, but chances are the junk mailer won't ever use that particular
domain again, so you can see the same messages over and over, each from a
different sender. You're better off with a trainable bayesian filter like
SpamBayes and a DNSBL checker like SpamPal. Outlook's Junk E-mail filter
is bayesian, but it's not trainable by the user.
Click to expand...
 
Again thanks,
I tried your suggestion of the SpanBayes and configured it in IE6 and IE7,
under XP/SP2. My experience is related , as it could be usefull to someone
else. Actually it was worse with IE7, in a 2.7gb computer, as it essentially
slowed download to the point that it was interminable.
In IE6 it was better, even with a much slower CPU, but my impresion was that
the alternative of the problems of the native junk filter was preferable.
Cheers
 
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