Jet Tec - Everyone's talking about them, they must be good.

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With "everyone" talking about Jet Tec recently, for no reason
the I could discern. . . I was just checking the manufacturer's
website and saw of couple of things (maybe more) that got my interest...

1. They're Europe's largest manufacturer of cartridges and inks.

2. Jet Tec won the Queen's Award for Enterprise: Innovation - for
Extra Life technology in Epson (also Canon) cartridges.

3. Their Canon BCI-3e gives up to 30% longer life than OEM's.

4. I read on their website that they were "Winners of the Total
Digital Photography ink cartridge test." I'm curious, I would
have liked to learn more about this but failed to find any link.

Me thinks these are all good things. And I am in the market for
some BCI-3e black cartridges for my iP5000. So I'm guessing
inkylinkusa.com is where I should be going for delivery to Canada?
Is this correct?

-Taliesyn
 
With "everyone" talking about Jet Tec recently, for no reason
the I could discern.
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It's called subtle self-promotion.
 
With "everyone" talking about Jet Tec recently, for no reason
the I could discern. . . I was just checking the manufacturer's
website and saw of couple of things (maybe more) that got my interest...

1. They're Europe's largest manufacturer of cartridges and inks.

Except for Biro and look how good they are...
2. Jet Tec won the Queen's Award for Enterprise: Innovation - for
Extra Life technology in Epson (also Canon) cartridges.

You're obviously not British or you'd realise how much *that* is
worth...
3. Their Canon BCI-3e gives up to 30% longer life than OEM's.

They say...
4. I read on their website that they were "Winners of the Total
Digital Photography ink cartridge test." I'm curious, I would
have liked to learn more about this but failed to find any link.
Who?

Me thinks these are all good things. And I am in the market for
some BCI-3e black cartridges for my iP5000. So I'm guessing
inkylinkusa.com is where I should be going for delivery to Canada?
Is this correct?
And they're such a big important company they have to spam Usenet
groups to get sales..

What does *that* tell you?
 
measekite said:
If you would like to support a low life spammer then it is your choice.

Okay, so I got the approval I was looking for from the two people who
are most in the "know" in this newsgroup. ;-)

-Taliesyn
 
Hecate said:
Except for Biro and look how good they are...

Never heard of Biro. Has that name even come up in this newsgroup?
You're obviously not British or you'd realise how much *that* is
worth...

I do know you don't get the "Queenie" without reason. I think what
Jet Tec did with the chip thing on their Epson cartridges was quite
fascinating reading.
They say...

It has to, or close. From the documentation I have, Canon OEM's have
27 ml ink and Jet Tec's, I read, have 32. I know that by itself doesn't
translate to exactly to 30%, but there may be other factors I don't
know about.

I believe it's a photography magazine, obviously from the UK
And they're such a big important company they have to spam Usenet
groups to get sales..

What does *that* tell you?

I don't read spam, only comments. I only consider negative comments
when there is some proven basis. I've only seen a couple of loud
people with nothing to back their comments.
--

Hecate - The Real One
(e-mail address removed)
veni, vidi, reliqui

What does that mean, I came, I saw, I relinquished? ;-)

-Taliesyn
 
Taliesyn said:
Never heard of Biro. Has that name even come up in this newsgroup?

I think he's refering to the company now known as BiC
http://www.bicworld.com/index_en.asp
I do know you don't get the "Queenie" without reason. I think what
Jet Tec did with the chip thing on their Epson cartridges was quite
fascinating reading.

Actually you *do* almost get a "Queenie" for no reason. It means absolutely
nothing. Have a look through last years winners
http://www.queensawards.org.uk/business/Winners/2004.html

Brisbane Moss Corduroys Corduroy and moleskin fabrics

Euroweigh Ltd Martley, Automatic weighing machinery

Viewframe Pictures PlcFramed prints, mirrors and photoframes

Hmmm..
They say...

It has to, or close. From the documentation I have, Canon OEM's have
27 ml ink and Jet Tec's, I read, have 32. I know that by itself doesn't
translate to exactly to 30%, but there may be other factors I don't
know about.

Like, errr, lying? "up to 30%" could just as well mean you actually get an
extra 0.0001%
I believe it's a photography magazine, obviously from the UK

I've never heard of it or seen it in the shops. They do have a website
though http://www.totaldp.com/, but it seems you have to pay to read their
articles from previous issues.
 
Is Taliensyn a pseudonym for Toniesyn?

I'm afraid not. I'm in Canada, eh (;-). I checked one of Tony's posts
and, by the words he uses, he must be in Britain. Or else I've been
watching too many episodes of Masterpiece Theatre on PBS and everyone
sounds British. Wasn't that a great series on the Channel Islands during
WWII?

I believe I wanted to try Jet Tecs a few years ago but never got around
to it. They're not sold here, though I seem to recall seeing a major
electronic chain market refill kits at one time. I already have enough
refill ink that I'm using for my alternate printer, an i850.

What I'm looking for right now is BCI-3e blacks for my new iP5000. I did
buy Formulabs filled color cartridges but neglected to buy the text
black. So with Jet Tec being in the news, I thought I'd kill two two
printers with one cartridge . . . It's a joke, get it? In other words,
I'd get some interesting high-capacity cartridges (32ml vs 27ml), while
checking out firsthand the recent rants I've read about Jet Tec inks.

As we all know you can't rely on rumors and screamers in newsgroups.
And with the iP5000's ultra tiny 1 picolitre nozzles - the smallest in
industry, this should be a piece-of-cake-printer-ruiner, right? So what
should I expect - instant clogging? Runny text? Printhead meltdown?
Black turning to grey? (or is it gray?).

I didn't start this Jet Tec inks controversy. But I certainly will have
a little fun with it - and get some ink at the same time!

-Taliesyn
 
And they're such a big important company they have to spam Usenet
groups to get sales..

What does *that* tell you?



Yes its called Educating those Stupid Yanks & other dump people..
 
With "everyone" talking about Jet Tec recently, for no reason
the I could discern. . . I was just checking the manufacturer's
website and saw of couple of things (maybe more) that got my interest...

1. They're Europe's largest manufacturer of cartridges and inks.
<snip>

Several others european ink peddlers make the same claim.
Do a google :
largest european ink manufacturer
and try to find JetTec !

Don't believe the bullshit on their website.
They are a crap firm to deal with.
 
<snip>

Several others european ink peddlers make the same claim.
Do a google :
largest european ink manufacturer
and try to find JetTec !

Don't believe the bullshit on their website.
They are a crap firm to deal with.



And how would you know...?
 
Anyone interested in looking at a couple of studies done of 3rd Party
versus Epson ink cartridges and refill inks will find these two
publications quite interesting.

I suspect the studies were funded by Epson, but one would hope the
results are accurately reported.

The two articles are:

Test of Epson Ink Cartridges vs. Non-Epson Ink Cartridges, PDF:, This
summary report covers a study regarding page yield and reliability of
OEM vs. third-party ink cartridges.

Test of Epson Ink Cartridges vs. Non-Epson Ink Cartridges and Refill
Kits, PDF: This second summary report covers a study regarding page
yield and reliability of OEM vs. third-party ink cartridges/refill kits.

and they can be read or downloaded at:

http://www.tpr.com/PubConference.htm

a third, very interesting article can be found on the same page under:

The PEARLS(TM) White Paper - Image Print Quality Considerations.

You may wish to look over the footnotes from the ink tests and try to
figure out which brands they might have been referring to, since they do
not mention them by name (too bad!).

Art
 
<snip>

Several others european ink peddlers make the same claim.

Trades Description Act requires that they prove it, and for that matter
that their products, as defined by manufactured, are made in Europe.
 
"Everyone is talking about Jet Tec"

On Wednesday I was at a meeting of the Scottish Photographic Circle, a
"Prints Only" Club where everyone now uses Computers.

The main subject of conversation was Printers and Papers, and the about to
be released R1800. I am certain I never once heard Jet Tec mentioned. I am
fairly certain I heard most of the conversations, so I am either getting
very much more deaf than I thought, or I must have fallen asleep at some
point.

Alas, old age and decrepitude must be coming along faster than ever, perhaps
I should just lie down and fold my arms on my chest.

What! Someone could be telling Porkie Pies to this Group. Oh surely not!

Roy G
 
Arthur Entlich said:
Anyone interested in looking at a couple of studies done of 3rd Party versus
Epson ink cartridges and refill inks will find these two publications quite
interesting.

I suspect the studies were funded by Epson, but one would hope the results
are accurately reported.

Interesting articles. HP funded a similar study, carried out by Quality
Logic. Results are available at:
http://www.hp.com/sbso/product/supplies/supplies_reliability_ink.pdf. The
results are similar, and also match my personal experience. I happen to know a
bit about the Quality Logic study - they printed over a thousand cartridges
and a few hundred thousand pages.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
 
Never heard of Biro. Has that name even come up in this newsgroup?

Never heard of Lazlo Biro and his wonderful invention called a
ballpoint pen?
I do know you don't get the "Queenie" without reason. I think what
Jet Tec did with the chip thing on their Epson cartridges was quite
fascinating reading.

You get it if you hang around the decision group long enough with the
right thickness of brown envelope...
It has to, or close. From the documentation I have, Canon OEM's have
27 ml ink and Jet Tec's, I read, have 32. I know that by itself doesn't
translate to exactly to 30%, but there may be other factors I don't
know about.

Yeah, right. Do you also believe everything else advertisers tell
you? ;-)
I believe it's a photography magazine, obviously from the UK

Which is so popular no one I know has ever heard of it. Now, if they'd
said "Professional Photographer" or Photography Monthly" or "Outdoor
Photography" or "Black and White Photography" or, well, I could go on,
but I'm sure you get the picture.
I don't read spam, only comments. I only consider negative comments
when there is some proven basis. I've only seen a couple of loud
people with nothing to back their comments.

So you'll never have read any of Tony's posts then which are 99% spam
pushing JetTec inks?
What does that mean, I came, I saw, I relinquished? ;-)
It's an old Roman joke from a number of their comedies - you go the
literal meaning, but the colloquial (Roman" meaning is "I came, I saw,
I went away again" ;-)
 
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