JBOD array and dodgy partition

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Andrew Young

I used a pair of 120GB Western Digital SATA hard drives with my motherboards (an
ABIT KV7) RAID controller.

I am using Windows 2000 and both HD's are NTFS formatted, one partition each.

One HD had Windows and programs the other had data.

Recently using both HD's I tried to create a bootable JBOD array and keep my
original data, but when I eventually finished, Windows displayed both hard
drives. I rebooted and then I received an error message 'NTLoader missing'.

I then broke the array - this took about two seconds, removed HD 2 from the PC,
formatted HD 1 and reinstalled Windows.

Last night I refitted HD 2, but it isn't recognised by Windows.

Partition Magic 7 claims HD 2 is unformatted.

Windows Disk Management claims 'unknown' and 'unallocated', if I right click it
gives me the option to 'write signature'.

Using Hex Workshop (read only), I can see my data is still present, but the
first sector starts
'DB04000000000000DB040000000000004101AF36AC000000FFFFFFFF82794711' and then all
zero's.

I have found a sector starting '.R.NTFS' at 234431442 of 234441647

Using Findpart, it lists the partition on HD 1, but not on HD 2, see below:

findpart all fp.txt

Disk: 1 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1 0F 16065234420480114463 1 0 1 14592*254 63 OK

1 1 07 63234420417114463 1 1 1 14592*254 63 OK OK

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

No signature CHS: 0 0 1



findpart findntfs 2 0 1 1 summary fp-2.txt

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

CHS 0/1/1 LBA: 63

Valid cluster KB not found.



findpart findntfs 2 0 1 1 alt summary fp-2alt.txt

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

CHS 0/1/1 LBA: 63

Options: Alt

Directories: 0
Files: 0
Trees: 0
Exe/dll files: 0
Exe/dll files signature: 0
Cluster KB: 14650626
MFT record used: None
MFT offset MB: 57229



What do I do now?

Many thanks.
 
I used a pair of 120GB Western Digital SATA hard drives with my motherboards (an
ABIT KV7) RAID controller.

I am using Windows 2000 and both HD's are NTFS formatted, one partition each.

One HD had Windows and programs the other had data.

Recently using both HD's I tried to create a bootable JBOD array and keep my
original data, but when I eventually finished, Windows displayed both hard
drives. I rebooted and then I received an error message 'NTLoader missing'.

I then broke the array - this took about two seconds, removed HD 2 from the PC,
formatted HD 1 and reinstalled Windows.

Last night I refitted HD 2, but it isn't recognised by Windows.

Partition Magic 7 claims HD 2 is unformatted.

Windows Disk Management claims 'unknown' and 'unallocated', if I right click it
gives me the option to 'write signature'.

Using Hex Workshop (read only), I can see my data is still present, but the
first sector starts
'DB04000000000000DB040000000000004101AF36AC000000FFFFFFFF82794711' and then all
zero's.

I have found a sector starting '.R.NTFS' at 234431442 of 234441647

Using Findpart, it lists the partition on HD 1, but not on HD 2, see below:

findpart all fp.txt

Disk: 1 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1 0F 16065234420480114463 1 0 1 14592*254 63 OK

1 1 07 63234420417114463 1 1 1 14592*254 63 OK OK

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

No signature CHS: 0 0 1



findpart findntfs 2 0 1 1 summary fp-2.txt

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

CHS 0/1/1 LBA: 63

Valid cluster KB not found.



findpart findntfs 2 0 1 1 alt summary fp-2alt.txt

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

CHS 0/1/1 LBA: 63

Options: Alt

Directories: 0
Files: 0
Trees: 0
Exe/dll files: 0
Exe/dll files signature: 0
Cluster KB: 14650626
MFT record used: None
MFT offset MB: 57229



What do I do now?

Many thanks.
Click to expand...

Are you certain which disk is which?

How are you booting without a primary active partition?

The Findpart output is not from "findpart all fp.txt", since there is
no search result. Do not cut output unless it is very large, since
operating system version and Findpart version number often can be
useful.
 
A huge great big snip

Are you certain which disk is which?

How are you booting without a primary active partition?

The Findpart output is not from "findpart all fp.txt", since there is
no search result. Do not cut output unless it is very large, since
operating system version and Findpart version number often can be
useful.
Click to expand...

Here is the full 'findpart all' and 'findpart table', I did trim them down
earlier, I had found it much easier to read and try to understand them.

Many thanks

Andrew



findpart all all.txt

Findpart, version 4.63 - for Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP.
Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 1999-2005.

OS: Windows 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 All

Disk: 1 Cylinders: 531 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 4165

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 07 63 8530452 4165 0 1 1 530 254 63 B OK

No FATs found.

Partitions according to partition tables on first harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*07 63 8530452 4165 0 1 1 530 254 63 OK OK

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 16709 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 131069

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0+- 01 1 20739 10 0 1 1 1 75 12 B OK
1 1 07 63268413957131061 1 1 1 16708*254 63 R0 OK
0 - 07 16128268413957131061 1 1 1 16708 254 63 B OK

------FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YY-MM-DD DataMB
1 1 35 Second FAT not found.

Partitions according to partition tables on second harddisk:

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1 0F 16065268414020131061 1 0 1 16708*254 63 OK

1 1 07 63268413957131061 1 1 1 16708*254 63 R0 OK

Disk: 3 Cylinders: 9733 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 76347

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 0C 63135877658 66346 0 1 1 8457 254 14 B OK
Fdisk F6 sector 1445 0 1
Fdisk F6 sector 1445 1 1
8458 1 0B 63 20482812 10001 8458* 1 1 9732*254 63 R0 OK
0 - 0B135877833 20482812 10001 8458 1 1 9732 254 63 B OK
0 - 07 4128768152231877 74331 257 1 1 9732 254 63 BU OK

-----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
0 1 33 16605 32 133 16605 0 0 0 020817 62912
8458 1 39 9993 8 2* 9993 0 0 0 041021 1

Partitions according to partition tables on third harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1 0F135877770 20482875 10001 8458* 0 1 9732*254 63 OK
0 2 0C 63135877707 66346 0 1 1 8457*254 63 NB OK

8458 1 0B 63 20482812 10001 8458* 1 1 9732*254 63 R0 OK

Disk: 4 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 07 63234420417114463 0 1 1 14591 254 63 B OK
1 1 07 63234420417114463 1 1 1 14592*254 63 OK OK

No FATs found.

Partitions according to partition tables on fourth harddisk:

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1 0F 16065234420480114463 1 0 1 14592*254 63 OK

1 1 07 63234420417114463 1 1 1 14592*254 63 OK OK

Disk: 5 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

None found.

------FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YY-MM-DD DataMB
8764 1 43 Second FAT not found.

Partitions according to partition tables on disk 5:

No signature CHS: 0 0 1





findpart tables tables.txt

Findpart, version 4.63 - for Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP.
Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 1999-2005.

OS: Windows 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 Partition tables:

Disk: 1 Cylinders: 531 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 4165

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*07 63 8530452 4165 0 1 1 530 254 63 OK OK

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 16709 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 131069

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1 0F 16065268414020131061 1 0 1 16708*254 63 OK

1 1 07 63268413957131061 1 1 1 16708*254 63 R0 OK

Disk: 3 Cylinders: 9733 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 76347

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1 0F135877770 20482875 10001 8458* 0 1 9732*254 63 OK
0 2 0C 63135877707 66346 0 1 1 8457*254 63 NB OK

8458 1 0B 63 20482812 10001 8458* 1 1 9732*254 63 R0 OK

Disk: 4 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1 0F 16065234420480114463 1 0 1 14592*254 63 OK

1 1 07 63234420417114463 1 1 1 14592*254 63 OK OK

Disk: 5 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

No signature CHS: 0 0 1
 
Findpart, version 4.63 - for Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP.
Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 1999-2005.

OS: Windows 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 All
Click to expand...
Disk: 4 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 07 63234420417114463 0 1 1 14591 254 63 B OK
1 1 07 63234420417114463 1 1 1 14592*254 63 OK OK

No FATs found.

Partitions according to partition tables on fourth harddisk:

--PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB --Start CHS- ---End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1 0F 16065234420480114463 1 0 1 14592*254 63 OK

1 1 07 63234420417114463 1 1 1 14592*254 63 OK OK

Disk: 5 Cylinders: 14593 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 114470

None found.

------FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YY-MM-DD DataMB
8764 1 43 Second FAT not found.

Partitions according to partition tables on disk 5:

No signature CHS: 0 0 1
Click to expand...

To get an idea what is on disk 5, you can do:

findpart findfile 5 fp-a.txt

and mail me the file fp-a.txt. I then will cut and show interesting
parts here. The search will take some time.

From the original description I remember that it would not be possible
that the missing partition is beginning at the end of disk 4. But if
the partition was created while a JBOD was present, it would begin at
disk 4.
 
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