Is what I'm trying to do possible?

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I have a NetGear WGR614 wireless 11b/g router, two Dell laptops (one w/ a
built-in 3com NIC and the other with a NetGear WG511 11b/g PCMCIA card) and
a desktop with a NetGear PCI FA311. My primary laptop has the 3Com NIC and
is plugged into "port 1". The desktop is plugged into "Port 2". The other
laptop obviously has the wireless card. I've anabled ICS on the wired
laptop and set the desktop and wireless laptop to obtain IP automatically
(obviously through DHCP). I've disabled the router as a DHCP server and
given it the IP 192.168.0.2 so it doesn't conflict w/ the wired ICS laptop.
Everytime I fire thins up, the wired laptop and the desktop have no
problems. The wireless laptop, however, returns an "Invalid IP address"
and, upon "repairing" uses either an "Automatic Individual Address" of
168.x.x.x or any IP I manually configure. There also seems to be no
communication over the workgroup (i have the correct name on all three).
I've been on this for 4 hours with no luck. Am I trying the impossible? Any
step-by-steps out there?

TIA
 
I have a NetGear WGR614 wireless 11b/g router, two Dell laptops (one w/ a
built-in 3com NIC and the other with a NetGear WG511 11b/g PCMCIA card) and
a desktop with a NetGear PCI FA311. My primary laptop has the 3Com NIC and
is plugged into "port 1". The desktop is plugged into "Port 2". The other
laptop obviously has the wireless card. I've anabled ICS on the wired
laptop and set the desktop and wireless laptop to obtain IP automatically
(obviously through DHCP). I've disabled the router as a DHCP server and
given it the IP 192.168.0.2 so it doesn't conflict w/ the wired ICS laptop.
Everytime I fire thins up, the wired laptop and the desktop have no
problems. The wireless laptop, however, returns an "Invalid IP address"
and, upon "repairing" uses either an "Automatic Individual Address" of
168.x.x.x or any IP I manually configure. There also seems to be no
communication over the workgroup (i have the correct name on all three).
I've been on this for 4 hours with no luck. Am I trying the impossible? Any
step-by-steps out there?

TIA
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ICS can only be used on a computer directly connected to the internet,
and with 2 connections (1 the internet connection (upwards), 1 the
shared connection (downwards)). ICS provides DHCP service, and
internet connection, to the computers connected below it.

ICS is not a proxy server (for peer sharing of the internet), nor does
it provide DHCP services to its peers. The wireless laptop can't get
an ip address from the DHCP server in ICS, because it is a peer of the
wired laptop.

You need to remove ICS, it isn't needed. Your router does fine as a
DHCP server, and as a proxy (NAT) server. Enable DHCP on the router.

Remember to use a common account / password identical on all pcs too.

Cheers,

Chuck
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I'm using dial-up though. The router doesn't support it so I have to
establish the connection with the wired laptop and use ICS for the other
computers. It sounds like you're speaking of using something like DSL which
i know would work (but I don't have it (yet)). It also sounds like ou're
suggesting that what I'm trying to do w/ my dial-up connection just may not
be possible. I hope not, but if you can crush my hopes now, it'd sve me
some time in the future ;D

Thanks
 
"Ion Control" said:
I have a NetGear WGR614 wireless 11b/g router, two Dell laptops (one w/ a
built-in 3com NIC and the other with a NetGear WG511 11b/g PCMCIA card) and
a desktop with a NetGear PCI FA311. My primary laptop has the 3Com NIC and
is plugged into "port 1". The desktop is plugged into "Port 2". The other
laptop obviously has the wireless card. I've anabled ICS on the wired
laptop and set the desktop and wireless laptop to obtain IP automatically
(obviously through DHCP). I've disabled the router as a DHCP server and
given it the IP 192.168.0.2 so it doesn't conflict w/ the wired ICS laptop.
Everytime I fire thins up, the wired laptop and the desktop have no
problems. The wireless laptop, however, returns an "Invalid IP address"
and, upon "repairing" uses either an "Automatic Individual Address" of
168.x.x.x or any IP I manually configure. There also seems to be no
communication over the workgroup (i have the correct name on all three).
I've been on this for 4 hours with no luck. Am I trying the impossible? Any
step-by-steps out there?

TIA
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The settings that you describe should work to share a dial-up Internet
connection from the wired laptop. By not connecting anything to the
router's WAN port and disabling its DHCP server, you've configured to
act as a wired access point only, not as a router.

I suspect that something's wrong with the wireless settings, either in
the router or the wireless laptop, that's preventing the laptop from
associating with the router's built-in wireless access point. The
laptop can only get an IP address when it has a proper wireless
connection.
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Steve Winograd said:
The settings that you describe should work to share a dial-up Internet
connection from the wired laptop. By not connecting anything to the
router's WAN port and disabling its DHCP server, you've configured to
act as a wired access point only, not as a router.

I suspect that something's wrong with the wireless settings, either in
the router or the wireless laptop, that's preventing the laptop from
associating with the router's built-in wireless access point. The
laptop can only get an IP address when it has a proper wireless
connection.
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Yes, the WGR614 should function as a plain access point in the configuration
you describe. To reiterate your description: You've disabled the DHCP
server on the WGR and used the WGR's built-in LAN switch to connect two
wired hosts and 1 wireless host. The wireless host is configured to use DHCP
for it's TCP/IP settings. This DHCP request should be bridged by the WGR
onto LAN, where it should be answered by the DHCP server you have running on
your wired laptop.

However, it appears that the WGR614 is broken in this regard and will not
pass the DHCP request/response between your wireless laptop and your DHCP
server. See <http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9155713~mode=flat>
where several people discussion similar problems. In other words, the
WGR614 will not function as a bugless plain access point.

Questions:
1) Have I properly described your situation?
2) If you configure your wireless client with a static IP address on your
local LAN (without making any other changes), then can the wireless client
see your other hosts just fine? And they can see it?
3) What version of the WGR614 do you have? (It tells at the top of the web
page used to configure the WGR.)

Randy Day-
 
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