Is it possible to retrieve sent email message in Opennetcf?

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Is it possible to retrieve sent email messages using opennetcf? or how
can I retrieve sent email messages?

Thanks!
 
Hi Peter,

If I would disregard the possibility of using a ready made wrapper,
like 'inthehand', what are other possibilities for me to use CEMAPI?

Thanks!
Mpoy
 
Yeah, I guess i'll take that one. But I can hardly find a reference in
the internet for such. That's why I'm having a hard time writing that
wrapper. Can you point me to some references in the net?

Thanks!
Mpoy
 
So, your time is of no value at all to you? What's your objection to
InTheHand?

Paul T.
 
Actually, time is indeed valuable. I don't have anything against or any
objections on InTheHand, indeed it is very impressive and superior at
all. I'm just looking at the possibility of doing it on my own, if its
really possible. Also, the things that I will be needing from
InTheHand, such as reading sent sms and sent email messages, will cost
me $$ somehow, so I'm still looking on the possibility of writing it up
since it was already done by others.

Do you think that its not worthiet to write the wrapper on my own?

Thanks!
Mpoy
 
I can think of absolutely no reason, other than a contractual obligation to
be in control of the source for everything, that would cause me to want to
know how to process SMS messages myself. I'd say that it's a complete waste
of time, unless there's some reason why you'd want to be a low-level expert
in how the phone stack works.

Paul T.
 
Seriously, I want to thank you all for helping me. Even just for
replying here, I really just need some help right now... I'm really
looking now into using that InTheHand. I'll just try to convert and
make this last wrapper trial, I'm really burnt out with this wrappers
and conversions and stuff.... Thanks!

Thanks again!
Mpoy
 
Mpoy,

I would suggest you look for and talk with other people who have used
or tried to use the InTheHand mail API. I've tried 2 different versions
of the InTheHand library and found both of them to be full of bugs.
Also check the InTheHand forums to see the problems people are having.

Here's the most frustrating issues that my friends and I have run into

- Deleting email from any folder (inbox, sent, etc) causes an
uncatchable exception to be thrown and crashes our applications

- Start my custom client that reads the inbox, then delete an email
from the inbox manually using the Windows Mobile mail client, then
rescan the inbox using my custom client and another uncatchable
exception is thrown crashing my client

- SMS interceptor does not work 90% on windows mobile smartphones

- Disabling an SMS interceptor throws exceptions

Now these issues may have been fixed since we last tried to use the
library 3 months back but we've already paid for 2 different versions
and have been disappointed both times.

Please note that neither I nor my friends have anything against Peter
Foot, we're sure he's a good guy and all. I'm NOT trying to start a
flame war by posting this comment either. I just wanted to get our
story out there for the record.

There was at one time an alternative library called Mail Wrapper but it
only worked on Windows Mobile 2003. But that seems to have disappeared
from Handango. I know people using the Mail Wrapper library and they
swear by it, they refuse to use anything else for accessing emails and
sms messages.

Jarod




Seriously, I want to thank you all for helping me. Even just for
replying here, I really just need some help right now... I'm really
looking now into using that InTheHand. I'll just try to convert and
make this last wrapper trial, I'm really burnt out with this wrappers
and conversions and stuff.... Thanks!

Thanks again!
Mpoy
I can think of absolutely no reason, other than a contractual obligation to
be in control of the source for everything, that would cause me to want to
know how to process SMS messages myself. I'd say that it's a complete waste
of time, unless there's some reason why you'd want to be a low-level expert
in how the phone stack works.
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Paul T.
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Mpoy said:
Actually, time is indeed valuable. I don't have anything against or any
objections on InTheHand, indeed it is very impressive and superior at
all. I'm just looking at the possibility of doing it on my own, if its
really possible. Also, the things that I will be needing from
InTheHand, such as reading sent sms and sent email messages, will cost
me $$ somehow, so I'm still looking on the possibility of writing it up
since it was already done by others.
Do you think that its not worthiet to write the wrapper on my own?
Thanks!
Mpoy
Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] wrote:
So, your time is of no value at all to you? What's your objection to
InTheHand?
Paul T.
Yeah, I guess i'll take that one. But I can hardly find a reference in
the internet for such. That's why I'm having a hard time writing that
wrapper. Can you point me to some references in the net?
Thanks!
Mpoy
<ctacke/> wrote:
Write the wrapper yourself, just like the third party did.
--
Chris Tacke
OpenNETCF Consulting
Managed Code in the Embedded World
www.opennetcf.com
--
Hi Peter,
If I would disregard the possibility of using a ready made wrapper,
like 'inthehand', what are other possibilities for me to use
CEMAPI?
Thanks!
Mpoy
Peter Foot [MVP] wrote:
You need to use CEMAPI, which is COM based but doesn't correctly
adhere
to
the rules of COM so you can't use it directly with COM Interop in
.NETCF
v2.0, or a ready-made wrapper :-
http://www.inthehand.com/WindowsMobile.aspx
Peter
--
Peter Foot
Device Application Development MVP
www.peterfoot.net|www.inthehand.com
Is it possible to retrieve sent email messages using opennetcf?
or
how
can I retrieve sent email messages?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
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Jarod,

Thank you very much for an insightful reply. I really appreciated this
one. Actually, I'm getting really disappointed with my wrappers. But
then reading this out gave me a little doubt if InTheHand API can
really address my needs. This is one of the reasons why I don't want to
shell out $$ for the API, not unless there's a trial API that can
access SMS and Email, so I can try it first before I purchase it. It
seems like I'm running out of options here.

Guys, those who have and are using InTheHand API, will it be possible
for me to read sent SMS and Email Messages? This is my main concern as
of the moment. My application really needs to pull the sms and email
message info from PPC.

Or to those who have tried doing what I need to do, do you have any
alternative API's there? Or even a commercial one, as long as I can try
if I can make it work with my application?

Thanks!
Mpoy
Mpoy,

I would suggest you look for and talk with other people who have used
or tried to use the InTheHand mail API. I've tried 2 different versions
of the InTheHand library and found both of them to be full of bugs.
Also check the InTheHand forums to see the problems people are having.

Here's the most frustrating issues that my friends and I have run into

- Deleting email from any folder (inbox, sent, etc) causes an
uncatchable exception to be thrown and crashes our applications

- Start my custom client that reads the inbox, then delete an email
from the inbox manually using the Windows Mobile mail client, then
rescan the inbox using my custom client and another uncatchable
exception is thrown crashing my client

- SMS interceptor does not work 90% on windows mobile smartphones

- Disabling an SMS interceptor throws exceptions

Now these issues may have been fixed since we last tried to use the
library 3 months back but we've already paid for 2 different versions
and have been disappointed both times.

Please note that neither I nor my friends have anything against Peter
Foot, we're sure he's a good guy and all. I'm NOT trying to start a
flame war by posting this comment either. I just wanted to get our
story out there for the record.

There was at one time an alternative library called Mail Wrapper but it
only worked on Windows Mobile 2003. But that seems to have disappeared
from Handango. I know people using the Mail Wrapper library and they
swear by it, they refuse to use anything else for accessing emails and
sms messages.

Jarod




Seriously, I want to thank you all for helping me. Even just for
replying here, I really just need some help right now... I'm really
looking now into using that InTheHand. I'll just try to convert and
make this last wrapper trial, I'm really burnt out with this wrappers
and conversions and stuff.... Thanks!

Thanks again!
Mpoy
I can think of absolutely no reason, other than a contractual obligation to
be in control of the source for everything, that would cause me to want to
know how to process SMS messages myself. I'd say that it's a complete waste
of time, unless there's some reason why you'd want to be a low-level expert
in how the phone stack works.
Click to expand...
Paul T.
Click to expand...
Actually, time is indeed valuable. I don't have anything against or any
objections on InTheHand, indeed it is very impressive and superior at
all. I'm just looking at the possibility of doing it on my own, if its
really possible. Also, the things that I will be needing from
InTheHand, such as reading sent sms and sent email messages, will cost
me $$ somehow, so I'm still looking on the possibility of writing it up
since it was already done by others.
Click to expand...
Do you think that its not worthiet to write the wrapper on my own?
Thanks!
Mpoy
Click to expand...

Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] wrote:
So, your time is of no value at all to you? What's your objection to
InTheHand?
Click to expand...
Paul T.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I guess i'll take that one. But I can hardly find a reference in
the internet for such. That's why I'm having a hard time writing that
wrapper. Can you point me to some references in the net?

<ctacke/> wrote:
Write the wrapper yourself, just like the third party did.
Click to expand...
--
Chris Tacke
OpenNETCF Consulting
Managed Code in the Embedded World
www.opennetcf.com
--
Click to expand...
Hi Peter,
Click to expand...
If I would disregard the possibility of using a ready made wrapper,
like 'inthehand', what are other possibilities for me to use
CEMAPI?

Peter Foot [MVP] wrote:
You need to use CEMAPI, which is COM based but doesn't correctly
adhere
to
the rules of COM so you can't use it directly with COM Interop in
.NETCF
v2.0, or a ready-made wrapper :-
http://www.inthehand.com/WindowsMobile.aspx
Click to expand...
Is it possible to retrieve sent email messages using opennetcf?
or
how
can I retrieve sent email messages?
Click to expand...
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Jarod,

The Smartphone issue is documented although admitedly not very clearly - on
Smartphone devices prior to WM5.0 a native dll must be registered to handle
the SMS interception, this must be signed with a privileged certificate, the
dll as supplied is signed only with an unprivileged Mobile2Market
certificate. This means it will work on all Pocket PC Phone edition devices
and only some Smartphones. If your smartphone device is operator branded you
need to obtain privileged signing for the dll
(InTheHand.WindowsMobile.Native.dll) from that operator. Its logistically
and financially impossible for us to sign the dll in a way it will work with
all Smartphone devices. In Windows Mobile 5.0 the situation is better since
the native support is built in.
The reported issues around Deleting items have been resolved.
All users of v2.x are entitled to free upgrades to minor version releases,
the latest being v2.1. If you have any problems downloading the updates
through your Handango account then please email me.

Peter

--
Peter Foot
Device Application Development MVP
www.peterfoot.net | www.inthehand.com

Jarod said:
Mpoy,

I would suggest you look for and talk with other people who have used
or tried to use the InTheHand mail API. I've tried 2 different versions
of the InTheHand library and found both of them to be full of bugs.
Also check the InTheHand forums to see the problems people are having.

Here's the most frustrating issues that my friends and I have run into

- Deleting email from any folder (inbox, sent, etc) causes an
uncatchable exception to be thrown and crashes our applications

- Start my custom client that reads the inbox, then delete an email
from the inbox manually using the Windows Mobile mail client, then
rescan the inbox using my custom client and another uncatchable
exception is thrown crashing my client

- SMS interceptor does not work 90% on windows mobile smartphones

- Disabling an SMS interceptor throws exceptions

Now these issues may have been fixed since we last tried to use the
library 3 months back but we've already paid for 2 different versions
and have been disappointed both times.

Please note that neither I nor my friends have anything against Peter
Foot, we're sure he's a good guy and all. I'm NOT trying to start a
flame war by posting this comment either. I just wanted to get our
story out there for the record.

There was at one time an alternative library called Mail Wrapper but it
only worked on Windows Mobile 2003. But that seems to have disappeared
from Handango. I know people using the Mail Wrapper library and they
swear by it, they refuse to use anything else for accessing emails and
sms messages.

Jarod




Seriously, I want to thank you all for helping me. Even just for
replying here, I really just need some help right now... I'm really
looking now into using that InTheHand. I'll just try to convert and
make this last wrapper trial, I'm really burnt out with this wrappers
and conversions and stuff.... Thanks!

Thanks again!
Mpoy
I can think of absolutely no reason, other than a contractual
obligation to
be in control of the source for everything, that would cause me to want
to
know how to process SMS messages myself. I'd say that it's a complete
waste
of time, unless there's some reason why you'd want to be a low-level
expert
in how the phone stack works.
Click to expand...
Paul T.
Click to expand...
Actually, time is indeed valuable. I don't have anything against or
any
objections on InTheHand, indeed it is very impressive and superior at
all. I'm just looking at the possibility of doing it on my own, if
its
really possible. Also, the things that I will be needing from
InTheHand, such as reading sent sms and sent email messages, will
cost
me $$ somehow, so I'm still looking on the possibility of writing it
up
since it was already done by others.
Click to expand...
Do you think that its not worthiet to write the wrapper on my own?
Thanks!
Mpoy
Click to expand...

Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] wrote:
So, your time is of no value at all to you? What's your objection
to
InTheHand?
Click to expand...
Paul T.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I guess i'll take that one. But I can hardly find a
reference in
the internet for such. That's why I'm having a hard time writing
that
wrapper. Can you point me to some references in the net?

<ctacke/> wrote:
Write the wrapper yourself, just like the third party did.
Click to expand...
--
Chris Tacke
OpenNETCF Consulting
Managed Code in the Embedded World
www.opennetcf.com
--
Click to expand...
Hi Peter,
Click to expand...
If I would disregard the possibility of using a ready made
wrapper,
like 'inthehand', what are other possibilities for me to use
CEMAPI?

Peter Foot [MVP] wrote:
You need to use CEMAPI, which is COM based but doesn't
correctly
adhere
to
the rules of COM so you can't use it directly with COM Interop
in
.NETCF
v2.0, or a ready-made wrapper :-
http://www.inthehand.com/WindowsMobile.aspx
Click to expand...
Is it possible to retrieve sent email messages using
opennetcf?
or
how
can I retrieve sent email messages?
Click to expand...
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
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