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[Guest]

Hi ~

I am getting 0xD1 error messages after starting games for about 10 min... I
get the blue screen of death.. I did some reading, and found out might be a
kernal problemor hardware..? Don't think it's hardware. Or could it be bad
RAM? -Never really had problems with it before or any hardware...
Any way to repair the kernal? I tried a different graphics card and it still
happened... How do I fix this problem? Please don't suggest reading about
error messages.... that didn't help. They only talk about starting or turning
off XP and it happens to me only when i play a game.. What exactly is the
kernal, how can i find out what's wrong? Even if I need to reinstall XP-
please let me know how to fix kernal and not just install win...
Thanks....

 

[Guest]

READ THIS ONE !!!!!

Hi ~

I am getting 0xD1 error messages (nv4_mini.sys) ... I get the blue screen of death.. I did some reading, and found out might be a kernal problem or hardware..? Don't think it's hardware. Or could it be bad RAM? -Never really had problems with it before or any hardware...it it happens again at the bottom I will give u the code it gives.... after nv4_mini.sys

Could it be the virtual memory? paging file size says Recommended: 1534mb -
currently allocated- 1536mb

Any way to repair the kernal? I tried a different graphics card and it still

 

[Guest]

REALLY - READ THIS ONE !!!!! SORRY TAKE 3

:

Hi ~

I am getting 0xD1 error messages (nv4_mini.sys) ... I get the blue screen
of death.. I did some reading, and found out might be a kernal problem or
hardware..? Don't think it's hardware. Or could it be bad RAM? -Never really
had problems with it before or any hardware...it it happens again at the
bottom I will give u the code it gives.... after nv4_mini.sys

Could it be the virtual memory? paging file size says Recommended: 1534mb -
currently allocated- 1536mb

Any way to repair the kernal? I tried a different graphics card and it still
happened... How do I fix this problem? Please don't suggest reading about
error messages.... that didn't help. They only talk about starting or turning
off XP and it happens to me randomly-usually about 5 min. after starting a
game. What exactly is the kernal, how can i find out what's wrong? Even if I
need to reinstall XP- please let me know how to fix kernal and not just
install win...
Thanks....

ERROR MESSAGE:
0x0000000D1 (0x06584800,0x00000006,0x0000000,0xF6E7DF40)

Address F6E7DF40 base at F6E2F000, DateStamp 4410cb0a

 

[Ron Martell]

REALLY - READ THIS ONE !!!!! SORRY TAKE 3

:

Hi ~

I am getting 0xD1 error messages (nv4_mini.sys) ... I get the blue screen
of death.. I did some reading, and found out might be a kernal problem or
hardware..? Don't think it's hardware. Or could it be bad RAM? -Never really
had problems with it before or any hardware...it it happens again at the
bottom I will give u the code it gives.... after nv4_mini.sys

Could it be the virtual memory? paging file size says Recommended: 1534mb -
currently allocated- 1536mb

Any way to repair the kernal? I tried a different graphics card and it still
happened... How do I fix this problem? Please don't suggest reading about
error messages.... that didn't help. They only talk about starting or turning
off XP and it happens to me randomly-usually about 5 min. after starting a
game. What exactly is the kernal, how can i find out what's wrong? Even if I
need to reinstall XP- please let me know how to fix kernal and not just
install win...
Thanks....

ERROR MESSAGE:
0x0000000D1 (0x06584800,0x00000006,0x0000000,0xF6E7DF40)

Address F6E7DF40 base at F6E2F000, DateStamp 4410cb0a

As the various articles that you are so scornful of explained, your
problem is most likely caused by a device driver. What devices did
you add to your computer recently? If none, have you recently updated
the drivers for any devices?

The prime suspect for the cause of your problem is whichever device
driver or component is being loaded at memory address F6E7DF40

To determine what that is open a command prompt window (Start - Run -
CMD) and follow these instructions.

First of all create a folder to store the file that is going to be
created. I normally use a folder named Junk for miscellaneous stuff
that I will use once and then throw away. So the first command is:

MD C:\JUNK

The next command creates a file.

PSTAT > C:\JUNK\PSTAT.TXT

You can now close the Command Prompt window by entering

EXIT

Now launch Notepad and open the file c:\junk\pstat.txt

In Notepad use Edit - Find and search for F6E7DF40

If there is more than one instance of that address in the file then
the one you want is probably the last one, which will show a module
name in the first column and F6E7DF40 in the second. The named
module is the primary cause of your problem.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

 

[Chuck]

Since this happens when you are playing a game, is the game one of the newer
ones that used "3D" instead of "2D" graphics?
If so, you may find that processor cooling or cooling of the video card is
not good enough.
A memory torture test is also a good thing to run.

 

[Guest]

As the various articles that you are so scornful of explained, your
problem is most likely caused by a device driver. What devices did
you add to your computer recently? If none, have you recently updated
the drivers for any devices?

The prime suspect for the cause of your problem is whichever device
driver or component is being loaded at memory address F6E7DF40

To determine what that is open a command prompt window (Start - Run -
CMD) and follow these instructions.

First of all create a folder to store the file that is going to be
created. I normally use a folder named Junk for miscellaneous stuff
that I will use once and then throw away. So the first command is:

MD C:\JUNK

The next command creates a file.

PSTAT > C:\JUNK\PSTAT.TXT

You can now close the Command Prompt window by entering

EXIT

Now launch Notepad and open the file c:\junk\pstat.txt

In Notepad use Edit - Find and search for F6E7DF40

If there is more than one instance of that address in the file then
the one you want is probably the last one, which will show a module
name in the first column and F6E7DF40 in the second. The named
module is the primary cause of your problem.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

I don't think it's a device driver... i used the same one (Motherboard
drivers) long time ago with no problems...Don't remeber when problems
started.... (I always use latest nvidia drivers) I wiped the SATA disk
drive, took out the only PCI device (Sound blaster Live 24) and did a full,
clean XP install (without SB installed).. same probelms after only installing
drivers then the game (Empire at War)... Later I even (uninstalled) removed
the sound blaster, and used onboard sound.... tried the game, and same
thing...

I did run memtest a while ago and it did find some errors after several
passes.. so how could the RAM have gone bad? It's DDR 400 PC 3700 1GB strip
with heat sink ... Could that be causing my problems..? Never had any trouble
with the RAM before... How could i fix this? When i get a chance, i will try
a different strip of RAM to see what happens..

I followed your steps to the letter:
I can't acces PSTAT.. it says: 'PSTAT' is not recognized as an internal
or external command operable program or batch file..
I tried it several times with no success. Tried it without spaces, when i do
it without PSTAT at the front- it just opened a blank .txt file. with PSTAT
at the top with a blank notepad....

To answer the question about the graphics games- they r 3d games... i
thought heat might be a problem but i put a stand alone fan in the case (on
high) and it still happened... (I have a nvidia 6600GT) with latest
drivers...

 

[Ron Martell]

I don't think it's a device driver... i used the same one (Motherboard
drivers) long time ago with no problems...Don't remeber when problems
started.... (I always use latest nvidia drivers) I wiped the SATA disk
drive, took out the only PCI device (Sound blaster Live 24) and did a full,
clean XP install (without SB installed).. same probelms after only installing
drivers then the game (Empire at War)... Later I even (uninstalled) removed
the sound blaster, and used onboard sound.... tried the game, and same
thing...

I did run memtest a while ago and it did find some errors after several
passes.. so how could the RAM have gone bad? It's DDR 400 PC 3700 1GB strip
with heat sink ... Could that be causing my problems..? Never had any trouble
with the RAM before... How could i fix this? When i get a chance, i will try
a different strip of RAM to see what happens..

RAM does go bad eventually, and sometimes it fails after only a
relatively short time. All semiconductor electronic components are
susceptible to failure. Newer manufacturing processes and tighter
quality controls have reduced the incidence of premature failures but
they still do happen.

Try your Memtest again, and consider geting a second opinion from Doc
Memory http://www.simmtester.com

I followed your steps to the letter:
I can't acces PSTAT.. it says: 'PSTAT' is not recognized as an internal
or external command operable program or batch file..
I tried it several times with no success. Tried it without spaces, when i do
it without PSTAT at the front- it just opened a blank .txt file. with PSTAT
at the top with a blank notepad....

Whoops!!!!! My bad. You need to install the Support Tools for
Windows XP which are in the \Support\Tools folder of your Windows XP
installation CD, Or you can download them from
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=838079


Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

 

[Guest]

RAM does go bad eventually, and sometimes it fails after only a
relatively short time. All semiconductor electronic components are
susceptible to failure. Newer manufacturing processes and tighter
quality controls have reduced the incidence of premature failures but
they still do happen.

Try your Memtest again, and consider geting a second opinion from Doc
Memory http://www.simmtester.com




Whoops!!!!! My bad. You need to install the Support Tools for
Windows XP which are in the \Support\Tools folder of your Windows XP
installation CD, Or you can download them from
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=838079


Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

Ok... followed your steps... didn't find F6E7DF40 or F6c7DF40 (another error
message) ... i didn't see it in the list either... don't know if that's a
good or bad sign...
I did paste this one... don't know if it helps....

nv4_mini.sys F6C2F000 2227552 1123360 28544 Thu Mar 09 18:40:42 2006

don't know .. but it seems strange that their aren't very many 2006
entries... only
this one and these... what does that mean?

nv4_disp.dll BF9D4000 3264256 507520 0 Thu Mar 09 18:31:16 2006
tcpip.sys EF164000 256896 42240 20096 Thu Jan 12 20:28:12 2006

 

[Ron Martell]

Ok... followed your steps... didn't find F6E7DF40 or F6c7DF40 (another error
message) ... i didn't see it in the list either... don't know if that's a
good or bad sign...

Darn. I hoped that with the actual load address that there would be a
direct match. What we may need to do is to search the list for the
address that is the closest to but still less than the error address.

I would do this by copying and pasting the last section of the
pstat.txt file into an Excel spreadsheet and then sorting the data
based on the value in the address (second) column.

These error addresses use the hexadecimal (base 16) numbering system
(0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F) where A = 10, B = 11, C = 13, D = 14
E = 15 and F = 16. You can use the Windows Calculator to convert
between decimal and hexidecimal notation.

I did paste this one... don't know if it helps....

nv4_mini.sys F6C2F000 2227552 1123360 28544 Thu Mar 09 18:40:42 2006

That is a driver file for an nVidia video card. It looks like a
fairly recent version (9 March 2006) but I don't know if that is the
most recent version or not.

Good luck

don't know .. but it seems strange that their aren't very many 2006
entries... only
this one and these... what does that mean?

nv4_disp.dll BF9D4000 3264256 507520 0 Thu Mar 09 18:31:16 2006
tcpip.sys EF164000 256896 42240 20096 Thu Jan 12 20:28:12 2006

The date shown would be the date that specific file was created. It
is really only meaningful in this context if you are trying to verify
the file version by using the date created.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

 

[Guest]

Darn. I hoped that with the actual load address that there would be a
direct match. What we may need to do is to search the list for the
address that is the closest to but still less than the error address.

I would do this by copying and pasting the last section of the
pstat.txt file into an Excel spreadsheet and then sorting the data
based on the value in the address (second) column.

These error addresses use the hexadecimal (base 16) numbering system
(0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F) where A = 10, B = 11, C = 13, D = 14
E = 15 and F = 16. You can use the Windows Calculator to convert
between decimal and hexidecimal notation.

--
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HP052090541033.aspx


ok... followed these steps in Office 2003 Pro. from their help site :

DEC2HEX Help
Assistance > Excel 2003 > Working with Data > Function Reference >
Engineering Functions

Converts a decimal number to hexadecimal.

If this function is not available, and returns the #NAME? error, install and
load the Analysis ToolPak add-in.

How?

1. On the Tools menu, click Add-Ins.
2. In the Add-Ins available list, select the Analysis ToolPak box, and
then click OK.
3. If necessary, follow the instructions in the setup program

There was no setup program... I highlighted the "B" cloumn (Load Address)
opened the screen- then the mini srceen just closed after clicking ok and
gave me a bunch of 0.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (numbers)... under linkDate then another
column with years.....didn't seem to affect the B Column?

As far as i can tell, the closetest one to the F6c7dF40 based on the load
address are these two. They are the only F6c7 ones on the list....:

nv4_mini.sys F6C2F000 2227552 1123360 28544 Thu Mar 9 0.778263888888889 2006

VIDEOPRT.SYS F6C04000 11008 384 50048 Wed Aug 4 0.0465740740740741 2004

I have the entire list.... any way of letting u see the entire list on
Excel? Could I send u the file? I don't know what else to try....

 

[Ron Martell]

ok... followed these steps in Office 2003 Pro. from their help site :

DEC2HEX Help
Assistance > Excel 2003 > Working with Data > Function Reference >
Engineering Functions

Converts a decimal number to hexadecimal.

If this function is not available, and returns the #NAME? error, install and
load the Analysis ToolPak add-in.

I have the entire list.... any way of letting u see the entire list on
Excel? Could I send u the file? I don't know what else to try....

Yes. The email address I use is valid and I will be watching for your
file.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

 

[Guest]

Yes. The email address I use is valid and I will be watching for your
file.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

By the way. i ran the simmtester test and the RAM passed all tests...

I will send it through your e-mail that u have on your website.. I check my
e-mail every day or u can repsond through this forum.... thanks for all your
help