IrfanView - no Recent Files?

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Terry Pinnell

Am I missing something obvious, or does IrfanView not offer the
familiar 'Recent Files' list in the File menu please?

I see there MRUD, for opening recent *folders*, but that
seems a poor second best...
 
I absolutely love this application, but there are two things that are
not "perfect":
one, the MRUD is actally a "MRUF"
and two, the open dialogs dont remember which folder you opened the
file from, when you go to "Save As", as a lot of applications do.
Also, it would be nice if the open dialogs, had a "places bar" on the
side.

But then again, close to perfect is good enough for me :)\

best,
xtort
[http://xtort.net]
 
xtort said:
I absolutely love this application, but there are two things that are
not "perfect":
one, the MRUD is actally a "MRUF"
and two, the open dialogs dont remember which folder you opened the
file from, when you go to "Save As", as a lot of applications do.
Also, it would be nice if the open dialogs, had a "places bar" on the
side.

IIRC Irfanview allows you to edit files and save them in a folder of
your choice (which it remembers), rather than overwriting the original
files. IMO this is a nice feature in an image editor. YMMV

Susan
 
(e-mail address removed) (xtort) wrote in
I absolutely love this application, but there are two things that are
not "perfect":
one, the MRUD is actally a "MRUF"
and two, the open dialogs dont remember which folder you opened the
file from, when you go to "Save As", as a lot of applications do.
Also, it would be nice if the open dialogs, had a "places bar" on the
side.

But then again, close to perfect is good enough for me :)\

best,
xtort
[http://xtort.net]

Options - Misc 1 - be sure that Ask to Overwrite Files for Both "Save" and
"Save As" is checked (which I believe is the default setting).

This is an interesting safety net which IrfanView provides, a blessing to
anyone who has accidentally lost a picture by clicking on Save when they
meant to Save As.

OK, now when you're sure it's set up properly, your problem can easily be
solved. File - Save As will put you in the folder that you last used for a
save as. But for your purposes, do File - Save, and this will put you in
the folder from which the file was opened. Now give it a new name, and
continue with the save.

As an example, if I open somepic.jpg and make a modification to it, then go
File - Save, I now have the option to rename it somepic2.jpg, which will
save it right alongside the original.
 
(e-mail address removed) (xtort) wrote in

Also, it would be nice if the open dialogs, had a "places bar" on the
side.

But then again, close to perfect is good enough for me :)\

best,
xtort
[http://xtort.net]

Access Folders would be the perfect thing for you. It adds a user-
defined list of places to open/save dialogues. Works very well with
IrfanView. Great for keeping the desktop handy, or whatever other
locations you're partial to.


Access Folders
http://www.pcanswers.co.uk/downloads/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=
5525&subsectionid=596

which is
http://tinyurl.com/6e2lp

Direct Download
ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/pcplus/accessfolders/afsetup.exe
 
Tom McDonald said:
Access Folders would be the perfect thing for you. It adds a user-
defined list of places to open/save dialogues.

Access Folders
http://www.pcanswers.co.uk/downloads/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=5525&subsectionid=596

which is
http://tinyurl.com/6e2lp

Direct Download
ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/pcplus/accessfolders/afsetup.exe

On my archive disk, I've got Access Folders v2.01 (circa 2002), and that
one is shareware. Then, checked their home page just now, and at least
at the front gate, they only speak of shareware.
http://www.shelltoys.com/access_folders/index.html

Is there a freeware release around?

(I've not downloaded the file from the ftp link you listed...)
 
jo said:
The pcanswers link above is to a freeware build

Thanks, I'll check it out. I depend intensely on cmmdlg helper, and ended
that case by taking a payware route. But I've always liked checking into
the freeware contestants. Very few such around, something like three total.
Plus add one more, then. Given that this release of Access Folders shows
itself to be a pure (nonag & noad ?) freeware...
 
On my archive disk, I've got Access Folders v2.01 (circa 2002), and
that one is shareware. Then, checked their home page just now, and at
least at the front gate, they only speak of shareware.
http://www.shelltoys.com/access_folders/index.html

Is there a freeware release around?

(I've not downloaded the file from the ftp link you listed...)

This is v. 1.5, c.2001.
My impression is that it is a UK computer magazine freebie offer of old
software, available for download from their ftp site.

You can read about it at the tinyurl above.

Of course, I may have misunderstood. If it's not a legitimate offer,
I'll avoid recommending it.
 
Tom McDonald said:
This is v. 1.5, c.2001.
My impression is that it is a UK computer magazine freebie offer of old
software, available for download from their ftp site.

You can read about it at the tinyurl above.

Of course, I may have misunderstood. If it's not a legitimate offer,
I'll avoid recommending it.

I've now downloaded and installed that one. Looked at the license file.
I'd guess that we'd be up against major barrier were we to try and nominate
this as absolute, pure freeware for the level of Pricelessware.
My other feeling is that, for a recommendation within ACF, it gets way
cloudy.

The license [*] indicates that there exists an independent product,
shareware, requiring registration; and that this release does not.
Makes it fit in as a liteware.

On the other hand, its use is only permitted for a finite length of
time. Or, finite but significantly finite? Since it might be that my
idea of a "reasonable period of time" for assessing whether I like it,
that might well be a lifetime or more.

_____
[*] License.txt excerpt from Access Folders 1.5
| 2. Permitted Uses and Restrictions.
|
| This License allows you to install and use the unregistered
| version of Software for a reasonable period of time for the
| purpose of determining whether Software is suitable for your
| needs. The use of full version of Software requires registration.
| [...]
| A limited license is granted to all registered and unregistered
| users, webmasters, owners of distribution systems, BBS etc to copy
| and distribute unregistered Software only for the trial use of others.
| [...]

One of those complicated issues, one of those fuzzy fields entered...

Reminds me of the fuzziness in another ware subject/problem. That
one involving the way an increasing number of products now are
demonstrating such a messy range of meaning when they call
themselves donationware....
 
omega said:
________
[*] License.txt excerpt from Access Folders 1.5
|
| This License allows you to install and use the unregistered
| version of Software for a reasonable period of time for the
| purpose of determining whether Software is suitable for your
| needs. The use of full version of Software requires registration.

My archive copy of the 2.01 shareware release, it has about the same
license.txt file included. When I click on its Help|About, it says,
in all caps, unregistered shareware, and then a bold text telling me
I have only 30 days, etc.

Now, in the 1.5 one from that other download, the Help|About says,

This software is registered.
Pcplus magazine addition
__________
Upgrade your copy for only $15.96 at the following link [...]

The license.txt only talks about "the unregistered version." Since this
one says it is registered, then the license.txt would seem to be talking
about separate products, not this one.

This is like another software I was struggling over recently. Where it
too involved contradictions between what the included license.txt said,
and what the executable itself said.
 
omega said:
ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/pcplus/accessfolders/afsetup.exe
________
[*] License.txt excerpt from Access Folders 1.5
|
| This License allows you to install and use the unregistered
| version of Software for a reasonable period of time for the
| purpose of determining whether Software is suitable for your
| needs. The use of full version of Software requires registration.

My archive copy of the 2.01 shareware release, it has about the same
license.txt file included. When I click on its Help|About, it says,
in all caps, unregistered shareware, and then a bold text telling me
I have only 30 days, etc.

Now, in the 1.5 one from that other download, the Help|About says,

This software is registered.
Pcplus magazine addition
__________
Upgrade your copy for only $15.96 at the following link [...]

The license.txt only talks about "the unregistered version." Since this
one says it is registered, then the license.txt would seem to be talking
about separate products, not this one.

This is like another software I was struggling over recently. Where it
too involved contradictions between what the included license.txt said,
and what the executable itself said.

Key concept: This is the PCPlus Magazine Edition.
The applicable ACF Law is that which governs magazine software
distributed on CD's. Which, if I'm not mistaken, generally held that
such software could be recommended, if and only if, the magazine made the
software available to download without buying the magazine itself.

Since PCPlus Magazine is not a warez site, they must have an agreement
with the software company which permits them to distribute a pre-
registered version, and the included license is intended to prevent end-
users from further redistribution.

Where is John Corliss when we need him?
 
omega said:
I've now downloaded and installed that one. Looked at the license file.
I'd guess that we'd be up against major barrier were we to try and nominate
this as absolute, pure freeware for the level of Pricelessware.
My other feeling is that, for a recommendation within ACF, it gets way
cloudy.

I dunno. . .

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2004/PL2004SYSTEMUTILITIES.php#0114-PW

http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_charisma_page=products

Free/Shareware

http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_charisma_page=product&id=2

1. Private/Educational user

The registration fee for Cacheman is $10. Since most users cannot afford
$10, Cacheman has no disabled features and no time limit. If you really
cannot afford the shareware fee you are allowed to use Cacheman as Freeware.
The license [*] indicates that there exists an independent product,
shareware, requiring registration; and that this release does not.
Makes it fit in as a liteware.
Agree

On the other hand, its use is only permitted for a finite length of
time. Or, finite but significantly finite? Since it might be that my
idea of a "reasonable period of time" for assessing whether I like it,
that might well be a lifetime or more.

Yup - unlimited trial.

_____
[*] License.txt excerpt from Access Folders 1.5
| 2. Permitted Uses and Restrictions.
|
| This License allows you to install and use the unregistered
| version of Software for a reasonable period of time for the
| purpose of determining whether Software is suitable for your
| needs. The use of full version of Software requires registration.
| [...]
| A limited license is granted to all registered and unregistered
| users, webmasters, owners of distribution systems, BBS etc to copy
| and distribute unregistered Software only for the trial use of others.
| [...]

Looks like Liteware to me.

Susan
 
Susan Bugher said:

Okay. Permission to change what I said? <g>

You made me realize that ACF voters would be most unlikely to have any
serious arguments if it were a PL nomination. I seem to have slipped into
intermixing reality in with my own little Plato world. (In the latter,
only the most absolutely freeware, the very purest freeware, would qualify
for PL.)
Free/Shareware

http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_charisma_page=product&id=2

1. Private/Educational user

The registration fee for Cacheman is $10. Since most users cannot afford
$10, Cacheman has no disabled features and no time limit. If you really
cannot afford the shareware fee you are allowed to use Cacheman as Freeware.

I've noticed that one before, and it has made me stop and wonder.

I mean, consider how freeware is a choice for many reasons. Then, even
when the reasons -are- financial, it can be that someone is a cheapskate,
or they have other financial priorities, or whatever, and often not a
matter of their income/assets.

So on first read, this program is "freeware" merely for a strict subset
of the population.

Then further complication is determining what subset. That, since "cannot
afford" is very subjective. (I've known many folks, especially those with
Depression-era background, whose assets, with house, put them past the
million dollar range -- yet when you try to get them to purchase a printer
or something, they start declaring, with emotive sincerity, that they
"cannot afford it." Some of those folks, even for things like it being their
turn to drop a couple of quarters in the parking meter, they balk. <g> )

Eeeeeh. I'm feeling inclined to put Cacheman back out of my consciousness.
Pack up and head for the Plato retreat in the magik forest...


[...]
The license [*] indicates that there exists an independent product,
shareware, requiring registration; and that this release does not.
Makes it fit in as a liteware.
Agree

On the other hand, its use is only permitted for a finite length of
time. Or, finite but significantly finite? Since it might be that my
idea of a "reasonable period of time" for assessing whether I like it,
that might well be a lifetime or more.

Yup - unlimited trial.

_____
[*] License.txt excerpt from Access Folders 1.5
| 2. Permitted Uses and Restrictions.
|
| This License allows you to install and use the unregistered
| version of Software for a reasonable period of time for the
| purpose of determining whether Software is suitable for your
| needs. The use of full version of Software requires registration.
| [...]
| A limited license is granted to all registered and unregistered
| users, webmasters, owners of distribution systems, BBS etc to copy
| and distribute unregistered Software only for the trial use of others.
| [...]

Looks like Liteware to me.

Okay, that conclusion looks good. A conclusion after thinking about the prog
in conjunction with that license.txt.

As well as without that license.txt. The download in question is a special
edition, a "registered version," which then arguably has licensing
independent of that license.txt.

Both ways, it does indeed seem to land solidly enough on "this side of
freeware." A special liteware distribution. No registration expected, no
nags, no ads, and free for use without any specifically-defined time limit.
 
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