Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?
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MachineMessiah said:
Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?
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Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not
buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ?

If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put
a little extra effort into it.

There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a
couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find
them here (try the "Intel" forum).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/

An example thread...

"Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144199

Paul
 
Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not
buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ?

If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put
a little extra effort into it.

There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a
couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find
them here (try the "Intel" forum).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/

An example thread...

"Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144199

Paul
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Thanks
We were looking at the asus P5K w/o the deluxe.
Not really into latest and greatest so much as hubby wants good gaming
rig. Need something that has 2 pci express x16 and takes 667 1.8v ram.
I build 2 P4 machines for myself, northwod & prescott with intel chip
sets.
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MachineMessiah said:
Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p5k-deluxe-overclock.html


New chipsets always have quirks. That's the price for having bleeding edge
gear.

Some P35 based boards use DDR2, some DDR3. The upcoming Asus P5KC can use
either.



The Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Rev3.3, GA-965P-DQ6, Asus Striker Extreme, and
Asus P5B Deluxe are all quality and refined motherboards.


Motherboards based on the nForce 680i chipset did have issues related to
SATA harddrives. Perhaps someone else can share their first hand
experience.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=680i+++sata+issues&btnG=Search
 
MachineMessiah said:
Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?
Click to expand...

Many people like to buy the newest/greatest new hardware. Keep in mind
that such hardware is sold before all the bugs are worked. Motherboards
have verion numbers, just like software does. Often it's best to wait 6
months before you become a BETA tester for the hew hardware.
 
Paul said:
Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not
buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ?

If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put
a little extra effort into it.

There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a
couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find
them here (try the "Intel" forum).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/

An example thread...

"Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144199

Paul
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Hello Paul,
On the second link you provided, there is a nice temp monitoring tool (the
one with the blue screens). Any idea what it is or where I could find it?
Thanks in advance.
 
ElJerid said:
Hello Paul,
On the second link you provided, there is a nice temp monitoring tool (the
one with the blue screens). Any idea what it is or where I could find it?
Thanks in advance.
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In the picture here, it says Asus AISuite, meaning it is some successor to
Asus Probe/ProbeII. (Line wrapped manually, to please my USENET host.)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K_Deluxe/results/Nautilus500/Q6600_B3/T1000UB1G5/
9x/889/StaticreadAUTO/333-555_5549_3-30-333_1.325-A-1.5-2.3-1.3-1.55-1.05/superpi-32m_dual.png

On the Asus download page, you type "tools" instead of a motherboard model
number, to get utilities listed. Versions of AiSuite are stored here. No
idea what motherboards are supported, whether a superset of ones handled
by Asus ProbeII or some truncated list of boards.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/AiSuit/

ProbeII seems to be even bigger in size.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/ProbeII_V10419b.zip

Paul
 
In the picture here, it says Asus AISuite, meaning it is some successor to
Asus Probe/ProbeII. (Line wrapped manually, to please my USENET host.)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K_Deluxe/results/Nautilus500/Q6600_B3/T1000UB1G5/

9x/889/StaticreadAUTO/333-555_5549_3-30-333_1.325-A-1.5-2.3-1.3-1.55-1.05/superpi-32m_dual.png

On the Asus download page, you type "tools" instead of a motherboard model
number, to get utilities listed. Versions of AiSuite are stored here. No
idea what motherboards are supported, whether a superset of ones handled
by Asus ProbeII or some truncated list of boards.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/AiSuit/

ProbeII seems to be even bigger in size.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/ProbeII_V10419b.zip

Paul
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Thanks for the effort, Paul. I checked it out bu unfortunately, the AI Suite
is indeed a new (very) extended version of Asus Probe ans runs only on
motherboard versions starting from P5xx, and not on my "antique" P4C800 DL.
Will be for my next upgrade...
 
MachineMessiah said:
Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?
Click to expand...


Interesting reviews at Toms hardware on motherboards with the P35 chipset

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/05/pipe_dreams_six_p35-ddr3_motherboards_compared/

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/19/eight_p35-ddr2_motherboards_compared/

The two points that stick in my mind from reading the reviews are:

1 It's a 'bridge' chipset. I don't know about you but that implies
compromise to me so both types of RAM will run with the same chipset. I
think of the motherboards that had two types of RAM sockets, or two CPU
sockets etc. None of them seemed to hang around for long.

2 The crippled second PCI Express Graphics slot.
I detect the deadly hand of the Marketing department here, does that mean a
P36 is in the pipline to 'fix' that?

Best
Paul.
 
Interesting reviews at Toms hardware on motherboards with the P35 chipset

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/05/pipe_dreams_six_p35-ddr3_motherboards_compared/

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/19/eight_p35-ddr2_motherboards_compared/

The two points that stick in my mind from reading the reviews are:

1 It's a 'bridge' chipset. I don't know about you but that implies
compromise to me so both types of RAM will run with the same chipset. I
think of the motherboards that had two types of RAM sockets, or two CPU
sockets etc. None of them seemed to hang around for long.

2 The crippled second PCI Express Graphics slot.
I detect the deadly hand of the Marketing department here, does that mean a
P36 is in the pipline to 'fix' that?

Best
Paul.
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Thanks for the reply. Think I'll pass on this one and go with nForce
650i or Intel p965.
 
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