Installing XP on a Fried Motherboard?

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Hello everyone!
My wife's computer got a severe voltage spike and fire the
motherboard,(478pin)Compaq Pesario S5100nx using Windows XP so I
bought a new ECS nForce3-A motherboard & AMD 3000+ CPU Plus fan and no
way to backup what is on the harddrive.
The computer will let me into the BIOs settup and everthing is still
on the HD but It won't open Windows.
It won't open in safe Mode or in Last known good configuration,it will
take me to a command prompt (Black Screen) but I don't know where to
go from there?
I need to save Docs &spreadsheet from HD so I can't do a clean
install. Can I do(& how) a reinstall and save the documents on my HD?

Any help would be Greatly Appreciated!
Mike E.
 
Hello,

You need to do a Repair installhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341(Method 2)

You can also hook up your hard disk to a USB external enclosure or to
another computer to retrieve the files.

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Thank You! SWD
I do have a 180gig external HD, could hook up her internal HD to my
computer (As Slave)and save it to the external HD?
 
Hello everyone!
My wife's computer got a severe voltage spike and fire the
motherboard,(478pin)Compaq Pesario S5100nx using Windows XP so I
bought a new ECS nForce3-A motherboard & AMD 3000+ CPU Plus fan and no
way to backup what is on the harddrive.
The computer will let me into the BIOs settup and everthing is still
on the HD but It won't open Windows.
It won't open in safe Mode or in Last known good configuration,it will
take me to a command prompt (Black Screen) but I don't know where to
go from there?
I need to save Docs &spreadsheet from HD so I can't do a clean
install. Can I do(& how) a reinstall and save the documents on my HD?

Any help would be Greatly Appreciated!
Mike E.
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Take the disk to another computer ? The very first thing I'd want to
do, is back up the disk somehow, before an accident happens. If you
have another WinXP computer, that should be able to understand an
NTFS disk.

A repair install, is how you would normally attempt to try to
fix it. A repair install leaves settings and applications alone.
It takes the OS back to the revision level of the install CD, so
any missing Service Packs or Security Updates need to be added after
it is finished. Yes, a repair install can go wrong, which is why
a backup is recommended. Any time I move my boot disk from my old
computer, into my latest build, the first step is imaging the original
disk so I have some insurance if things go horribly wrong.

Some warnings:
http://cquirke.mvps.org/reinst.htm

Repair install:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

To be visible, the disk connected to a new motherboard, may
need a driver, when the previous system didn't need one. A
driver can be added by pressing F6 at the appropriate time
and offering a floppy with the driver on it. So that is another
tiny little detail. That tends to be necessary, if the storage
connector on the motherboard, goes to a chip other than the
Southbridge.

Your new motherboard...
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...goryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=48&LanID=9
http://64.124.27.138/ecs/manual/mb/eng/k8/NFORCE3-A.pdf

After looking at this thread, it would seem that the WinXP
built in drivers would work, as long as you aren't using
a RAID setting in the BIOS. The BIOS by default should be
in a non-RAID state, suitable for repairing WinXP without
needing F6.

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.c..._frm/thread/5a75d88956739caa/315d83b8a476a1ee

Having two computers to work with, at a time like this, is
infinitely preferable to trying to perform miracles with
only one. In my home setup, I've even managed to break
two computers at the same time, requiring using a third
to repair them/surf the net for answers and so on. A second
working computer, would give you some place to backup the
disk, or find the valuable files you want to save.

I see in your other post, you do have another computer. Check
the jumpers on the two drives on the IDE chain, to make sure
they are set up properly, if attempting to backup the disk
on your computer. (Master and Slave, or both Cable Select
with an 80 wire cable. An 80 wire IDE cable is desirable in
any case, for best signal quality.)

Paul
 
Take the disk to another computer ? The very first thing I'd want to
do, is back up the disk somehow, before an accident happens. If you
have another WinXP computer, that should be able to understand an
NTFS disk.

A repair install, is how you would normally attempt to try to
fix it. A repair install leaves settings and applications alone.
It takes the OS back to the revision level of the install CD, so
any missing Service Packs or Security Updates need to be added after
it is finished. Yes, a repair install can go wrong, which is why
a backup is recommended. Any time I move my boot disk from my old
computer, into my latest build, the first step is imaging the original
disk so I have some insurance if things go horribly wrong.

Some warnings:http://cquirke.mvps.org/reinst.htm

Repair install:http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

To be visible, the disk connected to a new motherboard, may
need a driver, when the previous system didn't need one. A
driver can be added by pressing F6 at the appropriate time
and offering a floppy with the driver on it. So that is another
tiny little detail. That tends to be necessary, if the storage
connector on the motherboard, goes to a chip other than the
Southbridge.

Your new motherboard...http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...124.27.138/ecs/manual/mb/eng/k8/NFORCE3-A.pdf

After looking at this thread, it would seem that the WinXP
built in drivers would work, as long as you aren't using
a RAID setting in the BIOS. The BIOS by default should be
in a non-RAID state, suitable for repairing WinXP without
needing F6.

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.msi-microsta...

Having two computers to work with, at a time like this, is
infinitely preferable to trying to perform miracles with
only one. In my home setup, I've even managed to break
two computers at the same time, requiring using a third
to repair them/surf the net for answers and so on. A second
working computer, would give you some place to backup the
disk, or find the valuable files you want to save.

I see in your other post, you do have another computer. Check
the jumpers on the two drives on the IDE chain, to make sure
they are set up properly, if attempting to backup the disk
on your computer. (Master and Slave, or both Cable Select
with an 80 wire cable. An 80 wire IDE cable is desirable in
any case, for best signal quality.)

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Hello! Paul
The new Motherboard came with a CD that needs to be installed,if I
use F6 I would have to put the contents of CD onto a Floppy Right?

Thanks! For Your replys
Mike E.
 
Take the disk to another computer ? The very first thing I'd want to
do, is back up the disk somehow, before an accident happens. If you
have another WinXP computer, that should be able to understand an
NTFS disk.

A repair install, is how you would normally attempt to try to
fix it. A repair install leaves settings and applications alone.
It takes the OS back to the revision level of the install CD, so
any missing Service Packs or Security Updates need to be added after
it is finished. Yes, a repair install can go wrong, which is why
a backup is recommended. Any time I move my boot disk from my old
computer, into my latest build, the first step is imaging the original
disk so I have some insurance if things go horribly wrong.

Some warnings:http://cquirke.mvps.org/reinst.htm

Repair install:http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

To be visible, the disk connected to a new motherboard, may
need a driver, when the previous system didn't need one. A
driver can be added by pressing F6 at the appropriate time
and offering a floppy with the driver on it. So that is another
tiny little detail. That tends to be necessary, if the storage
connector on the motherboard, goes to a chip other than the
Southbridge.

Your new motherboard...http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...124.27.138/ecs/manual/mb/eng/k8/NFORCE3-A.pdf

After looking at this thread, it would seem that the WinXP
built in drivers would work, as long as you aren't using
a RAID setting in the BIOS. The BIOS by default should be
in a non-RAID state, suitable for repairing WinXP without
needing F6.

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.msi-microsta...

Having two computers to work with, at a time like this, is
infinitely preferable to trying to perform miracles with
only one. In my home setup, I've even managed to break
two computers at the same time, requiring using a third
to repair them/surf the net for answers and so on. A second
working computer, would give you some place to backup the
disk, or find the valuable files you want to save.

I see in your other post, you do have another computer. Check
the jumpers on the two drives on the IDE chain, to make sure
they are set up properly, if attempting to backup the disk
on your computer. (Master and Slave, or both Cable Select
with an 80 wire cable. An 80 wire IDE cable is desirable in
any case, for best signal quality.)

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Thanks! Paul

The new Motherboard came with an install CD, Would I have to put it
on a Floppy to use F6?
 
Thanks! Paul

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Sorry For Double Post!
M.E.
 
Thanks! Paul

The new Motherboard came with an install CD, Would I have to put it
on a Floppy to use F6?
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Some motherboard CDs come with a "MakeDisk" utility, that copies
the necessary files to a floppy. I like to "Explore" the motherboard
CD, to see what files are included with it. Sometimes there are even
copies of manuals hiding on the CD.

I don't think disk drivers are necessary in your case. If the previous
disk was a vanilla IDE disk, just connect it to that new motherboard,
and do your Repair Install. I don't think you'll need to do the
F6 thing. I wanted to explain it to you, so you'd know about it
if you have to do this again some time. Some motherboards would
need drivers, and usually Googling will dig up some information on
whether it is needed or not. But I think the WinXP driver will work
with yours, in non-RAID mode, which is the default in the BIOS.

Paul
 
Some motherboard CDs come with a "MakeDisk" utility, that copies
the necessary files to a floppy. I like to "Explore" the motherboard
CD, to see what files are included with it. Sometimes there are even
copies of manuals hiding on the CD.

I don't think disk drivers are necessary in your case. If the previous
disk was a vanilla IDE disk, just connect it to that new motherboard,
and do your Repair Install. I don't think you'll need to do the
F6 thing. I wanted to explain it to you, so you'd know about it
if you have to do this again some time. Some motherboards would
need drivers, and usually Googling will dig up some information on
whether it is needed or not. But I think the WinXP driver will work
with yours, in non-RAID mode, which is the default in the BIOS.

Paul
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Thans! Paul & SWD
I'm going to do the reinstall for XP as soon as my Wife finds the CD
bundle that came with her computer. :0
I'm not sure how she does this? I know where every Document that goes
to my computer and it's three years older then hers but I can't
convince her to even save ANY receipts on anything she buys either,
ever expensive items that are still under a warranty! Shame! Shame! :)
Thanks for all your help & to the People at WindowsXP forum! Ya'll
helped me figure out what to do with spending money needlessly and
it's really appreciated more than you know!

Especially to Paul & SingaporeWebDesign, They are great guys with a
World of Knowledge!
I am confident that the Wife's computer will know be fixed so I'm out
of Here! :)

Thanks Again!
Mike E.
 
Hello everyone!
My wife's computer got a severe voltage spike and fire the
motherboard,(478pin)Compaq Pesario S5100nx using Windows XP so I
bought a new ECS nForce3-A motherboard & AMD 3000+ CPU Plus fan and no
way to backup what is on the harddrive.
The computer will let me into the BIOs settup and everthing is still
on the HD but It won't open Windows.
It won't open in safe Mode or in Last known good configuration,it will
take me to a command prompt (Black Screen) but I don't know where to
go from there?
I need to save Docs &spreadsheet from HD so I can't do a clean
install. Can I do(& how) a reinstall and save the documents on my HD?

Any help would be Greatly Appreciated!
Mike E.
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Normally, and assuming a retail license, or an unbranded, generic OEM
license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a
specific chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard -
check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually
identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers,
same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was
originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place
upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing
issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've
pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't
like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod
style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just
isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as
"promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware
configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the
specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire
WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume
Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days
since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be
able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you
might have to make a 5 minute phone call.


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    Normally, and assuming a retail license, or an unbranded, generic OEM
license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a
specific chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard -
check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually
identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers,
same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was
originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place
upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XPhttp://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installedhttp://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

    The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing
issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.  You've
pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS.  (If you don't
like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod
style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation.  It just
isn't going to fit.)  WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as
"promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware
configuration you throw at it.  On installation it "tailors" itself to the
specific hardware found.  This is one of the reasons that the entire
WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group.

    As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

    This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume
Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed.  If it's been more than 120days
since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be
able to activate via the Internet without problem.  If it's been less, you
might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

--
Bruce Chambers

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Hello! Bruce
Thanks for your reply, I understand the reinstall part of the above
post but my wife can't find recovery CD's that came with the computer
and since I bought a new Motherboard,CPU & new Fan,we would like to
install Win.XP Pro OP but I'm not sure which type of hard drive I need
for this MB?
Here's my MB & specs!

Motherboard: NFORCE3-A (V1.0A)

Socket 754 for AMD Athlonâ„¢ 64 processor

WHQL
HT1600
DDR400
NVRAID
nTune
10/100 LAN
Serial ATA
6 Channel audio
USB 2.0
ATA 133
Color map



Specifications:

CPU Socket 754 for AMD Athlonâ„¢ 64/Sempronâ„¢ processor
High-performance Hyper Transport CPU interface.
Support transfer rate of 1600/1200/800/400 mega-transfers per
second.

CHIPSET NVIDIA nForce3 250 single chip


MEMORY 2 x 184-pin DDR DIMM socket support up to 2 GB
Support DDR400/333 DDR SDRAM

EXPANSION SLOT 1 x AGP 8X/4X slot
5 x PCI slots

STORAGE Supported by nForce3
4 x Ultra DMA133/100/66 devices
2 x Serial ATA devices
RAID0, RAID1& RAID 0+1 configuration

AUDIO Realtek ALC655 6-Channel audio CODEC
Compliant with AC'97 2.3 specification

LAN Realtek RTL8201BL 10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet PHY

REAR PANEL I/O 1 x PS/2 keyboard & PS/2 mouse connectors
4 x USB ports
1 x RJ45 LAN connector
1 x Parallel port (LPT1)
1 x Serial port (COM1)
1 x Audio port (Line-in, Line-out, Mic-in)

INTERNAL I/O CONNECTORS & HEADERS 1 x 20-pin ATX Power Supply
Connector
1 x 4-pin ATX 12V connector
2 x IDE connectors
2 x Serial ATA connectors
2 x USB 2.0 headers support additional 4 USB Ports
1 x Speaker header
1 x IrDA for SIR header
1 x SPDIF out header
1 x Front panel switch/LED header
1 x Front panel audio header
CD in header
CPUFAN/SYSFAN connectors

SYSTEM BIOS Award BIOS with 2Mb Flash ROM
Supports Plug and Play 1.0B, APM 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI
Supports ACPI revision 1.0 specification

FORM FACTOR ATX Size, 295mm*205mm

I need at least a 300GB HDD for my wifes Biz( She's a Photographer and
used up a 60GB HDD in taking multi-Photo's in less then a yr.
Will a ATA-100 interface HDD work or do I need the 133-ATA interface
HDD?

Will either of these 2 HDD's work to install Windows XP Pro on the
Motherboard I now have?

Western Digital
320 GB 7200 RPM Caviar SE EIDE Internal Hard Drive Retail Kit
Manufacturer Part# WD3200JBRTL
Interface Type: ATA-133
Buffer Size: 8 MB
Spindle Speed: 7200 rpm

Hitachi
500 GB 7200 RPM Deskstar 7K500 Hard Disk
Manufacturer Part# 0A31613
Interface Type: ATA-133
Buffer Size: 8 MB
Spindle Speed: 7200 rpm

Thanks for any Help!
Mike E.
 
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