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Escribirs
Can I upgrade my existing Windows Vista Enterprise to Vista Ultimate or do I
have do a clean install?
Thank you,
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Colin Barnhorst
You can use the upgrade option for x86 Business to x86 Ultimate from the
Business desktop. If you go from x86 Business to x64 Ultimate you will need
to do a custom install started with a dvd boot of the system.
Business desktop. If you go from x86 Business to x64 Ultimate you will need
to do a custom install started with a dvd boot of the system.
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Peter Foldes
Why would you want to do that. I would do a clean install in that scenario
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Guest
Peter
No offence intended, but you & others are always
assuming that every-one has their original disc's to
do a re-install.
I for one would have to go through 35, yes 35 upgrades
to get my 'Accounting Software' back to where it is today !
Sometimes there is no other choice but to do an in place
upgrade.
regards & no offence intended.
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No offence intended, but you & others are always
assuming that every-one has their original disc's to
do a re-install.
I for one would have to go through 35, yes 35 upgrades
to get my 'Accounting Software' back to where it is today !
Sometimes there is no other choice but to do an in place
upgrade.
regards & no offence intended.
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Rock
Peter Foldes said:Why would you want to do that. I would do a clean install in that scenario
Escribirs said:Can I upgrade my existing Windows Vista Enterprise to Vista Ultimate or do
I
have do a clean install?
Why Peter?
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Peter Foldes
Rock
I find and found in the past that doing a clean install of a OS is a much cleaner and much more advantageous . There is no dependencies on files that are the same ( i.e. *.dll) but with different versions. This is my personal opinion and I do feel strongly about this. Answered as per my onion. Just like some say it is better to bottom post and some say it is better to top post. Who is to say who is right.
Thanks Rock.
I find and found in the past that doing a clean install of a OS is a much cleaner and much more advantageous . There is no dependencies on files that are the same ( i.e. *.dll) but with different versions. This is my personal opinion and I do feel strongly about this. Answered as per my onion. Just like some say it is better to bottom post and some say it is better to top post. Who is to say who is right.
Thanks Rock.
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Peter Foldes
LoneWolf
I just told the OP that I WOULD in his place do a clean install. The answer that I gave him\her was a Yes if he wanted
to Upgrade (did not tell him\her that it is not possible) but I myself would do a clean install . Let me ask you something. Why would somebody for example go through 35 Upgrades of the OS to get a Accounting Software back to the way it is supposed to be. What does Upgrading a OS that many times have to do with a Software that is not the OS.
I just told the OP that I WOULD in his place do a clean install. The answer that I gave him\her was a Yes if he wanted
to Upgrade (did not tell him\her that it is not possible) but I myself would do a clean install . Let me ask you something. Why would somebody for example go through 35 Upgrades of the OS to get a Accounting Software back to the way it is supposed to be. What does Upgrading a OS that many times have to do with a Software that is not the OS.
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Rock
Rock
Thanks Rock.
I understand what you are saying but this case has many elements suggesting
a high probability for success with the upgrade. The OP wants to migrate
from one version of Vista to another. If the installation is stable there
is no reason to expect the drivers present wouldn't work in Ultimate, same
with the apps. The Vista install is a clean install because vista is laid
down as an image, then the apps and data migrated. This seems to me to be
the kind of scenario that has a very high probability of success. I would
image the system first, and also run WET putting the data on an external
drive or DVD, then do the upgrade. If things didn't work out you can always
go back to a custom install and bring back the data through WET or restore
the image and be back where you started.
I find and found in the past that doing a clean install of a OS is a much
cleaner and much more advantageous.
There is no dependencies on files that are the same ( i.e. *.dll) but
with different versions. This is my personal
opinion and I do feel strongly about this. Answered as per my onion. Just
like some say it is better to
bottom post and some say it is better to top post. Who is to say who is
right.
Thanks Rock.
Rock" wrote > "Peter Foldes said:Why Peter?
I understand what you are saying but this case has many elements suggesting
a high probability for success with the upgrade. The OP wants to migrate
from one version of Vista to another. If the installation is stable there
is no reason to expect the drivers present wouldn't work in Ultimate, same
with the apps. The Vista install is a clean install because vista is laid
down as an image, then the apps and data migrated. This seems to me to be
the kind of scenario that has a very high probability of success. I would
image the system first, and also run WET putting the data on an external
drive or DVD, then do the upgrade. If things didn't work out you can always
go back to a custom install and bring back the data through WET or restore
the image and be back where you started.
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Guest
Peter
You know as well as I do that doing a clean install
does not carry your programs over with it.
A clean install means re-installing your programs.
I didn't mention doing 35 upgrades to the OS.
I suggested that a clean install would require
the applications (programs, not OS) to be re-installed.
If es was to do a clean install he/she would have to re-install
all of his/her programs.
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You know as well as I do that doing a clean install
does not carry your programs over with it.
A clean install means re-installing your programs.
I didn't mention doing 35 upgrades to the OS.
I suggested that a clean install would require
the applications (programs, not OS) to be re-installed.
If es was to do a clean install he/she would have to re-install
all of his/her programs.
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Peter Foldes
I for one would have to go through 35, yes 35 upgrades
Sorry about that. But that is what I understood from the line that you posted
to get my 'Accounting Software' back to where it is today !
Sorry about that. But that is what I understood from the line that you posted
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Peter Foldes
Rock
And you are correct. I am not debating that for a minute and not even a second. All I am saying is that my preference would be a clean install of Vista Ultimate or any flavor of any OS over an Upgrade
And you are correct. I am not debating that for a minute and not even a second. All I am saying is that my preference would be a clean install of Vista Ultimate or any flavor of any OS over an Upgrade
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Horatio
That's an easy one, top post. Who wants to force zillions of viewers have
to scroll down thru all that garbage?
Rock
I find and found in the past that doing a clean install of a OS is a much
cleaner and much more advantageous <snip> Just like some say it is better
to bottom post and some say it is better to top post. Who is to say who is
right.
to scroll down thru all that garbage?
Rock
I find and found in the past that doing a clean install of a OS is a much
cleaner and much more advantageous <snip> Just like some say it is better
to bottom post and some say it is better to top post. Who is to say who is
right.
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Escribirs
Why would you want to do that. I would do a clean install in that scenario
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Peter
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Just to take advantage of some of the extra features in Vista Ultimate. I
have had Vista Enterprise installed on my machine for two months and have a
lot of programs running on it. I could just backup all my files and do a
clean install but just to save the time and hassle of reinstalling all the
programs I already have, I wanted to know if an upgrade is possible from
Enterprise to Ultimate.
Thank you for your answers.
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Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
Just to take advantage of some of the extra features in Vista Ultimate. I
have had Vista Enterprise installed on my machine for two months and have a
lot of programs running on it. I could just backup all my files and do a
clean install but just to save the time and hassle of reinstalling all the
programs I already have, I wanted to know if an upgrade is possible from
Enterprise to Ultimate.
Thank you for your answers.
Esc
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Rock
Fair enough.
Rock
And you are correct. I am not debating that for a minute and not even a
second. All I am saying is that my preference would be a clean install of
Vista Ultimate or any flavor of any OS over an Upgrade
Rock
And you are correct. I am not debating that for a minute and not even a
second. All I am saying is that my preference would be a clean install of
Vista Ultimate or any flavor of any OS over an Upgrade
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Colin Barnhorst
The missing element here is that Vista is installed by a block copy method
instead of the file copy method used by XP and earlier. With a block copy
all bytes are predetermined to be code or zeroes. There is no possibility
of anything but a clean install of the OS with formatting inherent in the
image.
With Vista there are no more code snippets left behind in the ends of
clusters where one file ended in the middle and the next was begun at the
beginning of the next cluster. There is no "upgrade trash." The idea takes
some adjusting, but dirty installs of the OS are past. The only sense in
which an upgrade is different from a clean install is the retention of user
files, settings, and apps. To the extent that the user's stuff is garbage,
it is garbage in garbage out. But not the OS.
Rock
And you are correct. I am not debating that for a minute and not even a
second. All I am saying is that my preference would be a clean install of
Vista Ultimate or any flavor of any OS over an Upgrade
instead of the file copy method used by XP and earlier. With a block copy
all bytes are predetermined to be code or zeroes. There is no possibility
of anything but a clean install of the OS with formatting inherent in the
image.
With Vista there are no more code snippets left behind in the ends of
clusters where one file ended in the middle and the next was begun at the
beginning of the next cluster. There is no "upgrade trash." The idea takes
some adjusting, but dirty installs of the OS are past. The only sense in
which an upgrade is different from a clean install is the retention of user
files, settings, and apps. To the extent that the user's stuff is garbage,
it is garbage in garbage out. But not the OS.
Rock
And you are correct. I am not debating that for a minute and not even a
second. All I am saying is that my preference would be a clean install of
Vista Ultimate or any flavor of any OS over an Upgrade
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Colin Barnhorst
The upgrade would be the natural course. There is no need to clean install.
Doing so would take a little longer, but go have a pizza.
Doing so would take a little longer, but go have a pizza.