Installing the Zalman CNPS9700 LED

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I have a couple of questions here. Now don't tell me to go to their website
and get their support. Their support is down for a couple of weeks.
I have a Intel Socket 775. I want to know if I need to remove the
motherboard to put the backplate on. Anotherwords, do I need to install
anything on the underside of the motherboard? Also I want to know which bolts
I put the pressure on when I'm screwing them in. Do I put pounds of pressure
on the Four (4) Clip Support Fixing Bolts for Socket 775 or do I put the
pressure on the Four (4) Bolts ( for installing the cooler)? Anotherwords,
there are 4 short bolts and 4 long bolts, which ones do I put the pressure on
when I'm installing the cooler? Or am I wrong all together and I don't put
pressure on any of the bolts? Then, can you tell me what part of the
components I put the pressure on?
I have a feeling it's the short bolts I put pressure on. I would greatly
appreciated any hints someone could me on installing the cooler.
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
You re installing a cpu cooler, right?
is this a replacement for on older existing cooler?
or a new install of cpu and the cooler?

if a new install no existing cooler, then nothing is needed to be installed
on the underside of the motherboard, remove the protective transparent tape
on the cooler, it covers the thermopaste, place the cooler on the cpu
correctly aligning the holes, ensure the screws are properly aligned and push
them in, mine has arrows on the pins showing the direction of turning them to
lock them in place or unlock them.
 
attilathehun1 said:
I have a couple of questions here. Now don't tell me to go to their website
and get their support. Their support is down for a couple of weeks.
I have a Intel Socket 775. I want to know if I need to remove the
motherboard to put the backplate on. Anotherwords, do I need to install
anything on the underside of the motherboard?
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What do the instructions that came with the unit say?
Also I want to know which bolts
I put the pressure on when I'm screwing them in. Do I put pounds of pressure
on the Four (4) Clip Support Fixing Bolts for Socket 775 or do I put the
pressure on the Four (4) Bolts ( for installing the cooler)?
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What do the instructions that came with the unit say?

Anotherwords,
there are 4 short bolts and 4 long bolts, which ones do I put the pressure on
when I'm installing the cooler? Or am I wrong all together and I don't put
pressure on any of the bolts? Then, can you tell me what part of the
components I put the pressure on?
Click to expand...


What do the instructions that came with the unit say?

I have a feeling it's the short bolts I put pressure on. I would greatly
appreciated any hints someone could me on installing the cooler.
Thanks, attilathehun1
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Since you're clearly incapable of reading the manufacturer's
instructions, why should we think you'd be able to read any provided by
this newsgroup? Do yourself a favor and take the computer to either al
reputable local repair shop, or a neighborhood 14-year-old.


--

Bruce Chambers

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I have a couple of questions here. Now don't tell me to go to their website
and get their support. Their support is down for a couple of weeks.
I have a Intel Socket 775. I want to know if I need to remove the
motherboard to put the backplate on. Anotherwords, do I need to install
anything on the underside of the motherboard? Also I want to know which bolts
I put the pressure on when I'm screwing them in. Do I put pounds of pressure
on the Four (4) Clip Support Fixing Bolts for Socket 775 or do I put the
pressure on the Four (4) Bolts ( for installing the cooler)? Anotherwords,
there are 4 short bolts and 4 long bolts, which ones do I put the pressure on
when I'm installing the cooler? Or am I wrong all together and I don't put
pressure on any of the bolts? Then, can you tell me what part of the
components I put the pressure on?
I have a feeling it's the short bolts I put pressure on. I would greatly
appreciated any hints someone could me on installing the cooler.
Thanks, attilathehun1
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You know damn good and well this has NOTHING to do with the OS and as
such does not belong HERE.

Take it elsewhere
 
attilathehun1 said:
I have a couple of questions here. Now don't tell me to go to their website
and get their support. Their support is down for a couple of weeks.
I have a Intel Socket 775. I want to know if I need to remove the
motherboard to put the backplate on. Anotherwords, do I need to install
anything on the underside of the motherboard? Also I want to know which bolts
I put the pressure on when I'm screwing them in. Do I put pounds of pressure
on the Four (4) Clip Support Fixing Bolts for Socket 775 or do I put the
pressure on the Four (4) Bolts ( for installing the cooler)? Anotherwords,
there are 4 short bolts and 4 long bolts, which ones do I put the pressure on
when I'm installing the cooler? Or am I wrong all together and I don't put
pressure on any of the bolts? Then, can you tell me what part of the
components I put the pressure on?
I have a feeling it's the short bolts I put pressure on. I would greatly
appreciated any hints someone could me on installing the cooler.
Thanks, attilathehun1
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Run the following in a Flash enabled browser. This is the install movie.
Click the buttons on the upper right, to select LGA775 socket.

Since the upper socket is held down with screws, and the screws thread into the
backing plate, the backing plate looks necessary to make it work. Whatever
you screw the top assembly down with, there has to be something threaded on
the bottom of the board, to take the screws.

http://www.zalman.co.kr/DataFile/Product/Setup/CNPS9700 LED(0).swf

Paul
 
Paul said:
Run the following in a Flash enabled browser. This is the install movie.
Click the buttons on the upper right, to select LGA775 socket.

Since the upper socket is held down with screws, and the screws thread
into the
backing plate, the backing plate looks necessary to make it work. Whatever
you screw the top assembly down with, there has to be something threaded on
the bottom of the board, to take the screws.

http://www.zalman.co.kr/DataFile/Product/Setup/CNPS9700 LED(0).swf

Paul
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By the way - paste that whole, stupid URL, into your browser window.
The file name has spaces in it, so just clicking it in your news reader
won't work. It has to be copied and pasted, including the .swf on the end.

Paul
 
Bruce I think your name should be Marylin Chambers so why don't you go blow
it.
 
At least Paul is trying to help out here and not telling me to bring it to
some scam artist who is trying to milk my money out of me. Thanks for trying
to help.
I need someone who's installed this before and not someone who is a blabber
mouth who thinks he's above all the rest.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks attilathehun1
 
Bruce said:
What do the instructions that came with the unit say?



What do the instructions that came with the unit say?



What do the instructions that came with the unit say?



Since you're clearly incapable of reading the manufacturer's
instructions, why should we think you'd be able to read any provided by
this newsgroup? Do yourself a favor and take the computer to either al
reputable local repair shop, or a neighborhood 14-year-old.

Bruce Chambers
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LOL!
 
The only thing I need to get my new PC going is to install this cooler. I
have a new thermaltake tower that's gigantic, a new thermaltake power supply,
a new CPU and mobo, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual
Core Processor and Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic
Energy Saver Ultra Durable II. Lets put it this way, all but the hard drive
and optical drive will be new.
Ok, getting back to the installation. Should I install the motherboard and
then install the cooler after i screw in the mobo? Like I said it's a giant
case so room isn't going to be an issue.
Ok, those are the 3 questions I have. Zalman support is down and I want to
start building this tomorrow.
What bolts to put the pressure on, if an?. Do I need to install anything on
the underside of the motherboard? Last or first, should I install the mobo
and then install the cooler or install the cooler and then stick mobo and
Zalman cooler into the Thermaltake tower?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you haven't installed this
cooler and can't add anything constructive to this, then stfu!
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
attilathehun1 said:
At least Paul is trying to help out here and not telling me to bring it to
some scam artist who is trying to milk my money out of me. Thanks for trying
to help.
I need someone who's installed this before and not someone who is a blabber
mouth who thinks he's above all the rest.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks attilathehun1
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Four long screws hold the top and bottom (base) plate together. Two
short screws hold a single clip, in compression, across the top of
the cooler. The short screws thread into metal nuts which are moulded into
the top plastic piece. Those two short screws will apply some
amount of force, because they hold the cooler down, and the
metal clip compresses the heatsink to the top of the CPU.

I have a similar contraption from Zalman on my current computer. It
was harder to figure out than yours, but works on the same principle.
Four screws to hold the base in place. Two short screws to hold the
heatsink in place. In my case, I didn't tighten the two short screws
all the way down, because the motherboard was starting to bend. That
won't happen in your case, because there is a backing plate to help
take the load.

http://www.zalman.co.kr/DataFile/Product/Setup/CNPS9700 LED(0).swf

The reason there are four threaded places in the top piece, is because
the cooler can be rotated in 90 degree increments. You can use that
feature, to point the exhaust from the fan, towards your computer case
exhaust fan. So two of the threaded holes on the top, will not have
a screw in them.

Paul
 
attilathehun1 said:
The only thing I need to get my new PC going is to install this cooler. I
have a new thermaltake tower that's gigantic, a new thermaltake power supply,
a new CPU and mobo, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual
Core Processor and Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic
Energy Saver Ultra Durable II. Lets put it this way, all but the hard drive
and optical drive will be new.
Ok, getting back to the installation. Should I install the motherboard and
then install the cooler after i screw in the mobo? Like I said it's a giant
case so room isn't going to be an issue.
Ok, those are the 3 questions I have. Zalman support is down and I want to
start building this tomorrow.
What bolts to put the pressure on, if an?. Do I need to install anything on
the underside of the motherboard? Last or first, should I install the mobo
and then install the cooler or install the cooler and then stick mobo and
Zalman cooler into the Thermaltake tower?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you haven't installed this
cooler and can't add anything constructive to this, then stfu!
Thanks, attilathehun1
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For what it is worth, I try to install the heatsink, while the motherboard
is outside the case. I do it that way, so I can inspect the fit carefully.
On one of my builds, the lever that holds the CPU in the socket, got caught
under an edge on the heatsink, and the whole thing went on crooked. I could
see that, because I could look on all four sides of the heatsink, and see whether
it was fitting flat or not.

Fitting the heatsink, while the motherboard is outside the case, is not
always possible. I have one older computer case here, where a metal
crossbar, sits in the opening when the side is off the computer case.
It is riveted in place and cannot be removed (steel rivets - would be
a pain to drill out - some rivets rotate when you put a drill on them).
In a case like that, you wouldn't have a choice. You'd have to install the
top and bottom plastic pieces, while the motherboard is outside the case.
Then, install the motherboard on top of the standoffs. Put the motherboard
screws in, and check that PCI and PCI Express cards slide in and out of their
slots, easily. Then, fit the heatsink to the top of the Zalman plastic piece.
Butter up with thermal paste, put heatsink in place, place clip over top
of the heatpipe+plate. Install the short screws, and tighten them
gradually. Check as you're going, that everything is in place and
sitting flat.

If the opening in the case is big enough to hold the thing assembled,
then you can install it while outside the case, and then slide the
whole works into the case. But that may make it a bit harder to
do up some of the motherboard screws. (I have a stubby screwdriver
for those.)

I install the heatsink, at least once, without any paste on it, just
to see how well the whole thing goes together. I had to do that with
my Zalman heatsink, in order to figure out the right way to fit the
base pieces. They weren't the same shape, and had to be oriented
correctly with respect to the socket. It took a few tries before
I figured it out.

Paul
 
Well Paul looks like he doesn't have any hang ups and has hit the nail on the
head. VanguardLH seems ok too. I've been to the website and downloaded the
instructions already, but they don't have any live web-support right now.
Ok, I did what you said and opened up the box and read the manual. It looks
like I have to install the backplate on the underside of the motherboard?
Also, I have a big ass tower, a Thermaltake, that looks like it will barely
fit under my PC table. So as far as working on the installation with the mobo
not installed yet won't be a problem. If you don't think I'm right about
having to install the backplate on the underside of the mobo then plz tell
me.
Any more hints will be greatly appreciated, but it looks like Paul has
already installed one before by what I've read. But, anymore will be gladly
accepted.
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
Oh yeah, I have one more question about that clip that looks like a cain. Is
that used for holding the fan and heatsink together?
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
attilathehun1 said:
Oh yeah, I have one more question about that clip that looks like a cain. Is
that used for holding the fan and heatsink together?
Thanks, attilathehun1
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On the LGA775 (yours), the clip is basically flat and horizontal, and the screws
go vertically down through it. The screws go into the metal threaded things, on
the Zalman retention frame you've installed (top and bottom piece and four long
screws).

<-+-> <-+->
Short | | Short
Screw | LGA775 | Screw
v v
|___/------------------------\___|
Holds down
Heatsink base

On the AMD processor sockets, there are tabs on the side of the retention
frame around the socket. The second kind of Zalman clip, snaps over the
tabs. It looks sorta like this. And in this case, the Zalman clip comes in
two pieces, a long piece, and a short end piece that you put together.
The assembled thing slides over one tab, and then the other side snaps down
onto the second tab. So the AMD doesn't use any of the short screws.

AMD sockets

+--------------------------------+
| __ Holds down __ |
Clip |/ | Tab Heatsink base Tab| \| Clip
|\__| |__/|
| |

HTH,
Paul
 
I'm looking at the How to Install Video on the Zalman website and the cain
looking hing is the hing that holds down the CPU. In the video the clip comes
up and then down. Do you have to mess with the clip that holds down the CPU?
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
attilathehun1 said:
I'm looking at the How to Install Video on the Zalman website and the cain
looking hing is the hing that holds down the CPU. In the video the clip comes
up and then down. Do you have to mess with the clip that holds down the CPU?
Thanks, attilathehun1
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No, you don't have to remove or disturb the CPU,
to change the heatsink to a different one.

The procedure for installing or removing the CPU
is shown in this movie. But you don't need to do this
stuff. I'm just showing you this, so you know what
that part looks like.

"Installation movie for LGA775 processor into LGA775 socket"

http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/24/12/241209_241209.wmv

When applying paste to the heatsink or the CPU, be careful
not to apply too much. Only a thin layer is needed. If
a lot of paste squirts out, when you put the heatsink onto
the CPU, that could eventually work its way onto the socket
pins or the gold contacts on the CPU.

And this is why, when I'm installing a heatsink, I do a
"dry install" first, so I won't be too clumsy when installing
it for real. When the heatsink plunks down into the paste,
it smears the paste around. You don't want to be plunking
and smearing, over and over, until you get the thing installed.
Practice getting good at putting it in place, without a lot
of excess movement.

So I start without any paste on there, and install the heatsink,
and then tighten up the two screws. That way, I discover whether
there are any surprises during the install. Then I undo the
screws and take the heatsink off again.

Then I test-apply the paste. I use about a half-grain-of-rice
sized amount of paste. You can practice squishing a small
dot of paste to start with, by pressing the heatsink into
the paste on the CPU, to get some idea how much is needed to
cover the CPU without excess. Then I clean off the CPU
and apply the final coat of paste I want.

Then it is time for the real installation. I plunk the heatsink
down into the fresh paste just the once. Install the two
screws. Tighten them down. Inspect on all four sides with my
eye, to make sure the heatsink is sitting flat. I look to see
if too much paste squirted out. (It shouldn't, because
I was careful to calibrate how much paste is needed.) It is
good to see a little bit of paste, wetting where the heatsink
touches the CPU, as that helps prove there is enough paste in
there.

Then I put the assembled motherboard into the computer case,
and do up the motherboard screws.

HTH,
Paul
 
Yeah Paul, I was thinking the same thing. I want to do a dry install first,
but then I was thinking just to get it right the first time. No, I'm sure
you're right. One thing I didn't think about is the paste. Putting just a dap
the first time to see how much I need and then cleaning it off both? You mean
put a dap on the CPU and not the heatsink? Should I put a dap on the CPU and
heatsink both, then install? I was thinking that the video that shows how to
install from Zalman's website was too much paste anyways. I was thinking all
you need is a dap? Maybe I should skip that part and just do a dry install
and then put the paste on with just a dap?
This depends on how hard it is to install. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1
being easy, how hard is it to install compared with other heatsinks and fans?
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
Ok, I'm about to install the CPU chip and then I'm going to install the
backplate onto the underside of the motherboard. Once I get the backplate
installed, I can then start to install the cooler.
This seems a bit, well I'm glad I have some input here of help. What do you
think about that procedure? Is this the correct series of steps so far?
Install the CPU chip first, then the backplate, then the cooler? Or backplate
first, then CPU chip, then cooler or does it matter if the chip is installed
before the backplate?
Any more help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
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