Installing a new mobo

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I got fed up with the SATA drive and decided to install the old hard drive
that was the original drive that has Windows XP Home edition installed on it.
Now, why can't I get the PC to boot? I went into BIOS already and had the
hard drive recognized. It already has an OS on it, the hard drive, and wtf is
the problem. Do I need to stick the supplied mobo CD into the optical drive?
Do I need to tell BIOS that Im sticking this mobo into a PC that has all the
old parts in it? Do I need to blow it out my ass?
WTF!
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, attilathehun1
PS I don't believe it. I was using my Dell 8300 to read the replies and
download replies into My Documents. I never use it to post questions or
replies. I haven't been able to do that for almost a year now. Maybe it's the
new video card? I thought it was something in Internet Options that was
blocking pop-ups. This is great. No more posting questions and replies on the
HP Pavilion 503n that's ancients. This Dell 8300 had 2 GBs of DDR 400 and a
24 inch flat screen ultra sharp monitor from Dell.
Thanks, attilathehun1
 
attilathehun1 said:
I got fed up with the SATA drive and decided to install the old hard drive
that was the original drive that has Windows XP Home edition installed on it.
Now, why can't I get the PC to boot? I went into BIOS already and had the
hard drive recognized. It already has an OS on it, the hard drive, and wtf is
the problem. Do I need to stick the supplied mobo CD into the optical drive?
Do I need to tell BIOS that Im sticking this mobo into a PC that has all the
old parts in it? Do I need to blow it out my ass?
WTF!
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, attilathehun1
PS I don't believe it. I was using my Dell 8300 to read the replies and
download replies into My Documents. I never use it to post questions or
replies. I haven't been able to do that for almost a year now. Maybe it's the
new video card? I thought it was something in Internet Options that was
blocking pop-ups. This is great. No more posting questions and replies on the
HP Pavilion 503n that's ancients. This Dell 8300 had 2 GBs of DDR 400 and a
24 inch flat screen ultra sharp monitor from Dell.
Thanks, attilathehun1
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To move a drive from another computer, to your new motherboard, you'd do
a "repair" install with the WinXP CD. You may have to press F6 and offer
drivers, if drivers are needed to make the disk interface work. If the
default Microsoft disk drivers are compatible with the chipset, then you
wouldn't need to press F6. In a sense, this option is no easier to do,
no less frustrating, than doing the clean install with a brand new disk.
So what you're trying to do now, is not easier, or more likely to
succeed. You cannot "dodge the bullet" by using this approach.
Procedure is here.

http://helpdesk.its.uiowa.edu/windows/instructions/repairinstall.htm

For your Nvidia chipset board, RAID or AHCI mode require drivers installed
via F6. To run in RAID mode, with a single drive, might require declaring
the single drive as a "striped array consisting of one disk". That is the
information I could find in the Nvidia Mediashield manual.

For the plain IDE mode for SATA, no driver should be needed. But I cannot
find that in print, for your 6100/405 chipset. It should be the same
for all Nvidia chipsets, as they would carry a successful SATA interface
design forward from chipset to chipset.

For your Gigabyte board, with Intel chipset, on there I'm more confident
that the approach is exactly the same. RAID or AHCI mode need a driver,
presented on a floppy, press F6 to offer driver etc. The IDE mode for SATA,
needs no driver. WinXP SP1 has both PCI space and I/O space default
drivers, suitable for the IDE mode. One difference is, on the Intel,
you can use the RAID driver, with a single disk, and simply not declare
the disk as a "RAID array". Intel calls this procedure, being "RAID ready",
as it allows migration to a RAID array later. Nvidia also allows migration,
but at least according to their Mediashield manual, they recommended using
the "fake one disk" array approach for the initial install.

Due to the few extra steps needed for a RAID install, on your 6100/405
chipset, I don't recommend the RAID route.

And at some point, there isn't much we can do here, unless you do a
very good job of describing what is happening. If there is some step
you're missing, we're blind here, and cannot see what you've done.

You could always take the system to your buddy, and have him take
a whack at installing it. Maybe he would allow you to look over his
shoulder, while he does it. Bring the WinXP CD and the motherboard
driver CD, so he'd have all the tools needed to finish a basic
install. No need to wait around for Windows Update, as you can do
that step yourself.

Paul
 
attilathehun1 said:
I got fed up with the SATA drive and decided to install the old hard drive
that was the original drive that has Windows XP Home edition installed on it.
Now, why can't I get the PC to boot? I went into BIOS already and had the
hard drive recognized. It already has an OS on it, the hard drive, and wtf is
the problem. Do I need to stick the supplied mobo CD into the optical drive?
Do I need to tell BIOS that Im sticking this mobo into a PC that has all the
old parts in it? Do I need to blow it out my ass?
Click to expand...
Thanks, attilathehun1


Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
installations are BIOS-locked to a specific motherboard chipset and
therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours
before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical
(same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one
on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to
perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.


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Alright, first off lets say, this is great! I can now post messages again on
my Dell 8300, which is more than I can ask for. Being able to post question
and replies here on this computer is more than I have ever expected. You
don't know what your missing until you can't do it anymore.
Alright, getting back to the problem. I have a hard drive, which isn't
SATA, it uses the IDE flat cables. I'm using a DVD drive and hard drive on
the same IDE cable. I'm using the DVD in the master position and the hard
drive in the slave position. When I tried to reverse it, the cables wouldn't
fit. The only way this will work is with the DVD+RW (CD-ROM) drive in the
master position, and the Western Digital 40 GB hard drive in the slave
position. I can't get beyond the spot where it asks for Safe Mode, Safe Mode
w/networking, Normal, etc...
Wtf, I'm using an old hard drive or the original hard drive before the PC
went on the blink, and it turned out it was the mobo that was the problem.
So, why shouldn't it boot regular into windows xp and there should be no
problem. Why with a new mobo should it not boot? Everything else is the same,
except the mobo and CPU. Oh yeah, forgot to say it's a mobo/CPU combo that I
bought from newegg.com.
No, no, no, I'm not installing RAID or even a SATA drive anymore. That's
out! I'm going to install that SATA drive on the new PC. Everything will be
new except a few expansion cards and maybe an optical drive. No, everything
will be " new ", I mean not new, but not used ever before on this PC. I'm
going to borrow or use the Wireless-G PCI adaptor with SRX model # Linksys
WMP54GX and the sound card Creative X-Fi Sound Blaster.
AGAIN, this is a hard drive that already has an operating system on it,
that was on this PC that I built, from scratch, 3 years ago, a DIY PC.
-- So, 1 more time, it's just a new CPU and motherboard. Why won't it boot
to Windows XP? I could install a new OS and wipe this hard drive clean, but
my brother wants the old data, preferably. And it's not a SATA drive, it's a
regular drive, or IDE drive.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, attilathehun1
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