Installing 1 SATA HDD

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I am having trouble with Motherboard Hard Drive recognition of a W.D.160GB
SATA Hard Drive on my socket 939 Asus A8v MB. This is a first time SATA hard
drive install on this motherboard, with 2 other *IDE* hard drives and 2
optical drives, already installed and working fine. I am *NOT* trying to
setup any kind of RAID configuration!!
I am merely trying to install 1 SATA hard drive for data storage purposes
only!

I know about jumpering the #5 and #6 pins on this 3.0MB SATA drive to keep
it at 1.5MB, for my "older" motherboard to deal with, and this HDD is
jumpered accordingly.
I have connected to my motherboard trying both the SATA1 and the SATA2
ports, but still *NO* recognition. While connected, I can hear and feel the
SATA drive running, and eventually the drive will become warm to the touch
as well.

I know the drive and cable are good, cause I can put these in my other box
and the drive *IS* recognized and runs just fine. In fact, I went ahead and
actually initialized, partitioned and Formated this brand new SATA drive on
this *other* computer, thinking it might help in the recognition process on
the intended A8v computer.... but to NO avail!

I have the latest VIA Hyperion chipset drivers for this MB, downloaded and
installed.
I installed these Hyperion drivers *after* initial drive NON recognition,
but still NO GO!!

When I say NO recognition, I mean nothing SATA listed in the meager AMI
BIOS, nor are there any applicable settings to set or enable in the BIOS for
SATA, other than one solitary setting for enabling SATA *BOOT* ROM. There is
nothing like: ENABLE SATA, or some such in the BIOS.
The POST at one point, shoots by so fast I can NOT read or comprehend the
info wizzing by, even after hitting the shift and pause keys! Yes, I have
disabled "Quick Boot" for just this reading purpose.
Windows XP also does not "see" the SATA drive, nor does it list the drive
under Disk Management, which is to be expected I guess if the BIOS can`t
detect the drive.

Other than declaring the SATA ports/controller/motherboard defective, are
there any other possibilities I am missing here? Any experienced users here
with similar SATA drive recognition problems? Anything I have missed?

Thanks,
Matt
 
I am having trouble with Motherboard Hard Drive recognition of a W.D.160GB
SATA Hard Drive on my socket 939 Asus A8v MB. This is a first time SATA hard
drive install on this motherboard, with 2 other *IDE* hard drives and 2
optical drives, already installed and working fine. I am *NOT* trying to
setup any kind of RAID configuration!!
I am merely trying to install 1 SATA hard drive for data storage purposes
only!

I know about jumpering the #5 and #6 pins on this 3.0MB SATA drive to keep
it at 1.5MB, for my "older" motherboard to deal with, and this HDD is
jumpered accordingly.
I have connected to my motherboard trying both the SATA1 and the SATA2
ports, but still *NO* recognition. While connected, I can hear and feel the
SATA drive running, and eventually the drive will become warm to the touch
as well.

I know the drive and cable are good, cause I can put these in my other box
and the drive *IS* recognized and runs just fine. In fact, I went ahead and
actually initialized, partitioned and Formated this brand new SATA drive on
this *other* computer, thinking it might help in the recognition process on
the intended A8v computer.... but to NO avail!

I have the latest VIA Hyperion chipset drivers for this MB, downloaded and
installed.
I installed these Hyperion drivers *after* initial drive NON recognition,
but still NO GO!!

When I say NO recognition, I mean nothing SATA listed in the meager AMI
BIOS, nor are there any applicable settings to set or enable in the BIOS for
SATA, other than one solitary setting for enabling SATA *BOOT* ROM. There is
nothing like: ENABLE SATA, or some such in the BIOS.
The POST at one point, shoots by so fast I can NOT read or comprehend the
info wizzing by, even after hitting the shift and pause keys! Yes, I have
disabled "Quick Boot" for just this reading purpose.
Windows XP also does not "see" the SATA drive, nor does it list the drive
under Disk Management, which is to be expected I guess if the BIOS can`t
detect the drive.

Other than declaring the SATA ports/controller/motherboard defective, are
there any other possibilities I am missing here? Any experienced users here
with similar SATA drive recognition problems? Anything I have missed?

Thanks,
Matt
Click to expand...

Go to the drive maker's site.They should have an answer in their
support/FAQs section.

HTH :)
 
Mattrixx said:
I am having trouble with Motherboard Hard Drive recognition of a W.D.160GB
SATA Hard Drive on my socket 939 Asus A8v MB. This is a first time SATA hard
drive install on this motherboard, with 2 other *IDE* hard drives and 2
optical drives, already installed and working fine. I am *NOT* trying to
setup any kind of RAID configuration!!
I am merely trying to install 1 SATA hard drive for data storage purposes
only!

I know about jumpering the #5 and #6 pins on this 3.0MB SATA drive to keep
it at 1.5MB, for my "older" motherboard to deal with, and this HDD is
jumpered accordingly.
I have connected to my motherboard trying both the SATA1 and the SATA2
ports, but still *NO* recognition. While connected, I can hear and feel the
SATA drive running, and eventually the drive will become warm to the touch
as well.

I know the drive and cable are good, cause I can put these in my other box
and the drive *IS* recognized and runs just fine. In fact, I went ahead and
actually initialized, partitioned and Formated this brand new SATA drive on
this *other* computer, thinking it might help in the recognition process on
the intended A8v computer.... but to NO avail!

I have the latest VIA Hyperion chipset drivers for this MB, downloaded and
installed.
I installed these Hyperion drivers *after* initial drive NON recognition,
but still NO GO!!

When I say NO recognition, I mean nothing SATA listed in the meager AMI
BIOS, nor are there any applicable settings to set or enable in the BIOS for
SATA, other than one solitary setting for enabling SATA *BOOT* ROM. There is
nothing like: ENABLE SATA, or some such in the BIOS.
The POST at one point, shoots by so fast I can NOT read or comprehend the
info wizzing by, even after hitting the shift and pause keys! Yes, I have
disabled "Quick Boot" for just this reading purpose.
Windows XP also does not "see" the SATA drive, nor does it list the drive
under Disk Management, which is to be expected I guess if the BIOS can`t
detect the drive.

Other than declaring the SATA ports/controller/motherboard defective, are
there any other possibilities I am missing here? Any experienced users here
with similar SATA drive recognition problems? Anything I have missed?
Click to expand...

Well, The drive itself could be bad.

If you can borrow a friend's computer, (with working sata) you could
explore those possibilities.
 
I had a similar problem. The recognition had to be enable in sofware OS via
supplied drivers. The mb came with a set of disk and had to load to memory prior
to installing OS. A really troublesome installation I can say. The drivers in
question were Jmicron and mb Abit.
 
When I say NO recognition, I mean nothing SATA listed in the meager AMI
And you DID enable the boot rom, right?
 
Noozer,

No, I did NOT "enable the boot rom"!
I am NOT *booting* from this SATA drive, and furthermore I did NOT enable
the SATA *BOOT* ROM on my other computer, which successfully found the SATA
drive.

Matt
 
Mattrixx said:
I am having trouble with Motherboard Hard Drive recognition of a W.D.160GB
SATA Hard Drive on my socket 939 Asus A8v MB. This is a first time SATA hard
drive install on this motherboard, with 2 other *IDE* hard drives and 2
optical drives, already installed and working fine. I am *NOT* trying to
setup any kind of RAID configuration!!
I am merely trying to install 1 SATA hard drive for data storage purposes
only!

I know about jumpering the #5 and #6 pins on this 3.0MB SATA drive to keep
it at 1.5MB, for my "older" motherboard to deal with, and this HDD is
jumpered accordingly.
I have connected to my motherboard trying both the SATA1 and the SATA2
ports, but still *NO* recognition. While connected, I can hear and feel the
SATA drive running, and eventually the drive will become warm to the touch
as well.

I know the drive and cable are good, cause I can put these in my other box
and the drive *IS* recognized and runs just fine. In fact, I went ahead and
actually initialized, partitioned and Formated this brand new SATA drive on
this *other* computer, thinking it might help in the recognition process on
the intended A8v computer.... but to NO avail!

I have the latest VIA Hyperion chipset drivers for this MB, downloaded and
installed.
I installed these Hyperion drivers *after* initial drive NON recognition,
but still NO GO!!

When I say NO recognition, I mean nothing SATA listed in the meager AMI
BIOS, nor are there any applicable settings to set or enable in the BIOS for
SATA, other than one solitary setting for enabling SATA *BOOT* ROM. There is
nothing like: ENABLE SATA, or some such in the BIOS.
The POST at one point, shoots by so fast I can NOT read or comprehend the
info wizzing by, even after hitting the shift and pause keys! Yes, I have
disabled "Quick Boot" for just this reading purpose.
Windows XP also does not "see" the SATA drive, nor does it list the drive
under Disk Management, which is to be expected I guess if the BIOS can`t
detect the drive.

Other than declaring the SATA ports/controller/motherboard defective, are
there any other possibilities I am missing here? Any experienced users here
with similar SATA drive recognition problems? Anything I have missed?
Click to expand...


I posted a thread after yours with my experience/soluition.. But I had
a board with 2 SATA and 2 IDE , and found that if you want both SATA
and IDE, then you can't use one of the IDEs. That's my experience with
the board I tried. It's the only one I tried with 2 SATA and 2 IDE.

The board I tried with 2 SATA and 1 IDE let me fill them all.

You didn't say which IDE channel your drives are on.. but try applying
that rule.
 
Mattrixx said:
Noozer,

No, I did NOT "enable the boot rom"!
I am NOT *booting* from this SATA drive, and furthermore I did NOT enable
the SATA *BOOT* ROM on my other computer, which successfully found the
SATA drive.
Click to expand...

Well THAT is your problem. Its not a ROM to boot from SATA. It's a ROM to
enable at boot to enable the SATA BIOS code.
 
I posted a thread after yours with my experience/soluition.. But I had
a board with 2 SATA and 2 IDE , and found that if you want both SATA
and IDE, then you can't use one of the IDEs. That's my experience with
the board I tried. It's the only one I tried with 2 SATA and 2 IDE.

The board I tried with 2 SATA and 1 IDE let me fill them all.

You didn't say which IDE channel your drives are on.. but try applying
that rule.
Click to expand...

I am about to fix my drive C: problem (still have the same old problem I
posted over a month ago) and it seems to spread to drive D: (now I think
drive C: is partioned of drive D: but not so sure <g>). I already got a
500GB SATA which I temporary use as external hard drive, and I will install
as internal someday (soon?).

So, I want to see more information about SATA + IDE relationship (or
limitation), and may be Backup program that can backup everything (hidden
system files and Adobe CS2 copy protection file etc.). Cuz I plan to backup
the whole drive C: then restore instead of reinstall the whole thing.

Anyone has more info about SATA + IDE please pass along the info. TIA
 
Ok, I *ENABLED* the "SATA BOOT ROM" setting in the BIOS, and something (?)
new does appear (ever so briefly) at the very begining of the POST, but the
SATA HDD still is *NOT* found in Windows, or at the Disk Management
Utility!!
Again... I never had to enable this setting on my other Asus MB, and it
correctly ID`s and recognizes my 2 Western Digital SATAII HDD`s.

Thanks,
Matt
 
I posted a thread after yours with my experience/soluition.. But I had
a board with 2 SATA and 2 IDE , and found that if you want both SATA
and IDE, then you can't use one of the IDEs. That's my experience with
the board I tried. It's the only one I tried with 2 SATA and 2 IDE.

The board I tried with 2 SATA and 1 IDE let me fill them all.

You didn't say which IDE channel your drives are on.. but try applying
that rule.
Click to expand...

My 2 IDE HDD`s are Primary Master and Slave. My two Optical DVD-R Drives are
Secondary Master and Slave. This is one reason I want to use the SATA
connections for extra HDD STORAGE (not for RAID) purposes!

I have another similar motherboard which is running both IDE *AND* SATA
HDD`s! On that board (Asus A8V DELUXE) I am using both Primary and
Secondary IDE channels along with the SATA1 Port, for a total of 4 HDD`s and
2 Optical Drives).

Matt
 
Mattrixx said:
Ok, I *ENABLED* the "SATA BOOT ROM" setting in the BIOS, and something (?) new does appear (ever
so briefly) at the very begining of the POST, but the SATA HDD still is *NOT* found in Windows, or
at the Disk Management Utility!!
Click to expand...
Again... I never had to enable this setting on my other Asus MB, and
it correctly ID`s and recognizes my 2 Western Digital SATAII HDD`s.
Click to expand...

The detail of how sata is implemented does vary with the chipsets used.
 
Mattrixx said:
My 2 IDE HDD`s are Primary Master and Slave. My two Optical DVD-R Drives
are Secondary Master and Slave. This is one reason I want to use the SATA
connections for extra HDD STORAGE (not for RAID) purposes!

I have another similar motherboard which is running both IDE *AND* SATA
HDD`s! On that board (Asus A8V DELUXE) I am using both Primary and
Secondary IDE channels along with the SATA1 Port, for a total of 4 HDD`s
and 2 Optical Drives).

Matt
Click to expand...
Problem solved thanks to some great folks at PC Perspectives/AMD Asus Forum.
Turns out it WAS a driver issue afterall!!
*NOT* the "press F6" for Floppy with SATA drivers, which is strictly for
RAID *OR* to install a Windows O.S. onto a SATA drive early on, during a
"clean install".
These are rather the SATA RAID Controller drivers from the MB CD-ROM, or
better yet a more current downloaded driver from the chipset maker website!
These drivers are installed necessarily after Windows itself has been
installed.

All this I had previously done, but I forgot to check under Device Manager,
under
SATA Controller, and then it`s Drivers for confirmation!
Turns out there was a big RED X right through my VIA SATA RAID Controller
listing and the Properties box said it was DISABLED!
After I ENABLED this, it then loaded C:Windows|System32DRIVERS\viamraid.sys.
This DRIVER is what was required for Windows to at long last see my SATA
HDD!!

Hope this helps someone as I have been helped!

P.S. YES, (at least on TWO of my motherboards) you CAN have both IDE and
SATA Hard Drives running at the same time on the same computer.

Matt
 
These are rather the SATA RAID Controller drivers from the MB CD-ROM, or
better yet a more current downloaded driver from the chipset maker website!
Click to expand...

Many people don't even put the motherboard CD in the drive,
ALL the originally installed drivers are the newer versions
from the respective chipset manufacturer instead, or at
least the motherboard manufacturer.


These drivers are installed necessarily after Windows itself has been
installed.

All this I had previously done, but I forgot to check under Device Manager,
under
SATA Controller, and then it`s Drivers for confirmation!
Turns out there was a big RED X right through my VIA SATA RAID Controller
listing and the Properties box said it was DISABLED!
After I ENABLED this, it then loaded C:Windows|System32DRIVERS\viamraid.sys.
This DRIVER is what was required for Windows to at long last see my SATA
HDD!!

Hope this helps someone as I have been helped!

P.S. YES, (at least on TWO of my motherboards) you CAN have both IDE and
SATA Hard Drives running at the same time on the same computer.
Click to expand...


Any board without a servere problem can do that, too.

Good to hear you found a solution and reported it... a lot
of people don't ever post the solution.
 
Mattrixx said:
Problem solved thanks to some great folks at PC Perspectives/AMD Asus Forum.
Turns out it WAS a driver issue afterall!!
*NOT* the "press F6" for Floppy with SATA drivers, which is strictly for
RAID *OR* to install a Windows O.S. onto a SATA drive early on, during a
"clean install".
These are rather the SATA RAID Controller drivers from the MB CD-ROM, or
better yet a more current downloaded driver from the chipset maker website!
These drivers are installed necessarily after Windows itself has been
installed.

All this I had previously done, but I forgot to check under Device Manager,
under
SATA Controller, and then it`s Drivers for confirmation!
Turns out there was a big RED X right through my VIA SATA RAID Controller
listing and the Properties box said it was DISABLED!
After I ENABLED this, it then loaded C:Windows|System32DRIVERS\viamraid.sys.
This DRIVER is what was required for Windows to at long last see my SATA
HDD!!

Hope this helps someone as I have been helped!

P.S. YES, (at least on TWO of my motherboards) you CAN have both IDE and
SATA Hard Drives running at the same time on the same computer.

Matt
Click to expand...

I think regular SATA doesn't need a driver/disk. Only RAID does.. Since
you enabled RAID, I guess you are using the RAID controller without
RAID functionality, in a sort of non RAID mode? i'm sure you said
earlier that you don't want RAID
 
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