Installed SATA, can't find old IDE-drive

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RoughRyde

Hi,

I just installed a new SATA drive and installed a fresh copy of Windows
XP.

The system boots fine from the new drive just as expected. However,
windows can't detect my old IDE drive which I have jumpered as slave.

Is there any setting I have missed?

/Fred
 
I assume that because you have configured your old IDE drive as slave, that
there is a master device on that PATA (IDE) Channel? If so, make sure that
both devices on that PATA channel are jumpered appropriately as master and
slave.

If you only have the one IDE drive, then that drive should be jumpered as
Master.


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I have:
One PATA drive
One SATA drive

I want the SATA to be the primary and to boot from that drive.

I've tried jumpering the PATA both as master and as slave.
The SATA doesn't need any jumpers right?
 
RoughRyde said:
I have:
One PATA drive
One SATA drive

I want the SATA to be the primary and to boot from that drive.

I've tried jumpering the PATA both as master and as slave.
The SATA doesn't need any jumpers right?

SATA drives do not need jumpers. The PATA drive, as a single
drive, should be designated as such (especially if it is a
WD), or as a Master, per manufacturer's instructions. To boot
from the SATA drive, make sure that it is designated as such
in bios setup.
 
....and the IDE Master/Slave designation has nothing to do with it being
(or not) a boot drive - it has to do with which connector on the cable
it is attached. If the end connector, it is master and a second drive
can be attached as slave to the middle connector.

You can also jumper as "cable select" which is supported by most
motherboards and interface cards, provided you have the 80-wire cable
(that usually has different color connectors, black, gray and blue).
This lets you attach the drive to either the Master or Slave connector
without changing the jumpers. This is especally useful if you use disk
caddies, some of which may be Masters and some Slaves - you can slide
the drive tray into either without changing the jumpers.
 
My main problem is still that the PATA drive isn't detected when
booting from the SATA drive.

Does that have anything to do with wether the PATA is master or slave
or is there any other settings that com in to play here?
 
RoughRyde said:
My main problem is still that the PATA drive isn't detected when
booting from the SATA drive.

Does that have anything to do with wether the PATA is master or slave

No. It is not a "slave" to the SATA drive. It's a slave/master/single
of it's ATA/IDE port, and has to be configured accordingly. If it's sharing
the port with another device, such as a DVD/CD-ROM, try removing that
device from the mix, and configure the HDD as master or single.
or is there any other settings that com in to play here?

Look around for anything to do with ~"drive/ATA/IDE configuration".
Though, it's probably doubtful that the ATA drives have been disabled, as
you were able to see it before.
 
(Fred: It would be helpful that when you post a query or follow-up to a
previous query, you provide background information re your problem and
whatever pertinent responses you've received. While you don't have to
include all the prior postings at least include a summary so that anyone
coming upon your latest query has sufficient background info re your problem
and thereby can possibly help you resolve such. Don't force potential
responders to search out prior postings on the issue you raised. I've
included here what I think are the relevant prior posts re your problem.)
Anna)


RoughRyde said:
Hi,

I just installed a new SATA drive and installed a fresh copy of Windows
XP.

The system boots fine from the new drive just as expected. However,
windows can't detect my old IDE drive which I have jumpered as slave.

Is there any setting I have missed?

/Fred

(Fred later adds...)
I have:
One PATA drive
One SATA drive

I want the SATA to be the primary and to boot from that drive.

I've tried jumpering the PATA both as master and as slave.
The SATA doesn't need any jumpers right?


Mistoffolees said:
SATA drives do not need jumpers. The PATA drive, as a single
drive, should be designated as such (especially if it is a
WD), or as a Master, per manufacturer's instructions. To boot
from the SATA drive, make sure that it is designated as such
in bios setup.


(And JohnG. responds...
....and the IDE Master/Slave designation has nothing to do with it being
(or not) a boot drive - it has to do with which connector on the cable
it is attached. If the end connector, it is master and a second drive
can be attached as slave to the middle connector.

You can also jumper as "cable select" which is supported by most
motherboards and interface cards, provided you have the 80-wire cable
(that usually has different color connectors, black, gray and blue).
This lets you attach the drive to either the Master or Slave connector
without changing the jumpers. This is especally useful if you use disk
caddies, some of which may be Masters and some Slaves - you can slide
the drive tray into either without changing the jumpers.


RoughRyde said:
My main problem is still that the PATA drive isn't detected when
booting from the SATA drive.

Does that have anything to do with wether the PATA is master or slave
or is there any other settings that com in to play here?


Fred:
When you say your PATA HD isn't detected upon bootup with your SATA HD, you
mean it's not listed in My Computer, Windows Explorer so that you cannot
access its files & folders. Is that right? You're not trying to boot to that
PATA HD, just access its contents, right?

Is the PATA HD detected in the BIOS?

Is it listed in the "Disk drives" section of Device Manager?

What about Disk Management? Is it listed there? And, if so, has a drive
letter been assigned to it?

We're assuming the drive is non-defective and that you've correctly
configured/connected it, right? You've re:checked your connections, yes?
And, of course, that the drive has been partitioned/formatted and contains
data.

Yes, you're right. It ordinarily doesn't matter whether this secondary hard
drive has been configured as Master or Slave as long as none of the
components are defective and you've correctly connected it.
Anna
 
Hi,

I just installed a new SATA drive and installed a fresh copy of Windows
XP.

The system boots fine from the new drive just as expected. However,
windows can't detect my old IDE drive which I have jumpered as slave.

Is there any setting I have missed?

/Fred

I've seen boards where it's either/or on SATA/PATA on any given
controller. Try putting the drive on the other controller.
 
RoughRyde said:
My main problem is still that the PATA drive isn't detected when
booting from the SATA drive.

Does that have anything to do with wether the PATA is master or slave
or is there any other settings that com in to play here?

Simple solution for you. First, remove all jumpers from
the Western Digital drive and place it at the end of the
IDE cable. Do not use a CSEL cable. Re-connect this IDE
cable to the motherboard; there should be nothing else on
it. Next, verify that the PATA drive is being seen in bios
setup; if not, repeat the auto-detect for it.
 
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