install

  • Thread starter Thread starter swiftflo
  • Start date Start date
S

swiftflo

I am running Vista Ultimate Beta 2 build 5744 at the moment. When vista is
released to the public at the end of this month will I be able to purchase
and install the OEM version of Vista Home Premium. I have read and heard
various tales re this, some say you can only install like for like and some
say what I propose will work okay.

Thanks
 
Build 5744 makes no difference. You are using Vista Ultimate so installing
Vista Home Premium would require a clean installation.

OEM editions are for new computers without an OS.

You can purchase a full edition of whatever flavor of Vista you wish. It
will require a clean installation. Use the Windows Easy Transfer wizard in
5744 to save any files and settings you want to keep and then use it again
to restore them after installing Home Premium.
 
Swiftflo--

When Vista is released at the end of the month, you'll be able to purchase
VHP. The OEM versions will be pre-loaded at that time for purchase on new
pcs or available from legitimate OEM dealers like this one
I suppose

http://www.campustech.com/c/campust/OEMVIST32HPD1PK.html


Some of the OEM partners like Dell may be shipping an actual OS on a
DVD--something MSFT has been very adverse to because they want you to go out
and buy a retail version. OEM Vistas will later show up in different venues
including the booths of software vendors at computer shows, and from MSFT
promotionally.

As to your question about installing "like for like" I don't know if you
were implying upgrading from the Beta. It isn't supported; it has been
done by a number of people. I would format your Beta 2 build 5744 after
backing up whatever is on that Vista that you want, and then install the
edition of your choice if you choose to buy one.

CH
 
Good point on the Easy Transfer Wizard. I didn't realize that you could use
it to save settings from one edition of Vista on the same computer for the
one you're going to install. Did you mean to save them to either media or
another drive or another hard drive external or internal?

I have a little method that involves a simple drag and drop and it would
only take seconds if it weren't for backing up Outlook and Windows Mail.
There is a backup utility for Outlook 2003 as a free download from MSFT, but
I don't know that it will work for OL 2007 and haven't tried that. If
there's one for OL 2007 already, I haven't found it.

Outlook 2003/2002 Add-in: Personal Folders Backup
www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&familyid=8B081F3A-B7D0-4B16-B8AF-5A6322F4FD01

I thought it's context was mainly from one pc to another and it involved
using a WET cable. I had missed that it could be used to save files and
settings (I suppose on a different drive if you're dual booting). I know
you can copy Windows Easy Transfer to your old computer using a CD or DVD,
a network (if both computers are connected to the same network), or a USB
flash drive).

I'm quoting from Help and Support on Windows Easy Transfer:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9e2347fc-43af-4ff9-8e33-0002b9d449561033.mspx

"An Easy Transfer Cable is a specially designed USB cable that can connect
two computers and be used with Windows Easy Transfer. It's one of the
simplest ways to transfer files and settings to your new computer and works
with Microsoft Windows 2000 (files only), Windows XP, and Windows Vista."

I supposed an alternative would be to use the backup utility in Vista, which
I compresses depending on file size on media, but doesn't compress if you
backup to a hard drive.

"Which method should I use to transfer my files and settings?
There are several choices. Be sure to choose a method that works on both
computers. For example, if you don't have a DVD drive on your old computer,
you can't use DVDs for this procedure. Note that floppy disks cannot be used
with Windows Easy Transfer.

Easy Transfer Cable
What you'll need: An Easy Transfer Cable and a USB port on each computer.

An Easy Transfer Cable is a specially designed USB cable that can connect
two computers and be used with Windows Easy Transfer. It's one of the
simplest ways to transfer files and settings to your new computer and works
with Microsoft Windows 2000 (files only), Windows XP, and Windows Vista.

Where to get one: If you don't have an Easy Transfer Cable, you can order
one online or from your computer manufacturer, or get one at an electronics
store.

Note
A standard USB cable cannot be used to transfer files and settings between
computers.

Network
What you'll need: A network with both computers connected to it and the
ability to access the same network folders or locations.

Connect both computers to your network, start Windows Easy Transfer on the
new computer, and then follow the instructions.

DVDs or CDs
What you'll need: Writeable DVD or CD drives on both computers and enough
writeable discs to hold what you want to transfer. (A dual-layer DVD holds
about 8.5 gigabytes (GB), a single-layer DVD holds about 4.7 GB, and a CD
holds about 700 megabytes (MB).) Both computers must be able to read and
write DVDs or CDs. Check the information that came with your computer to see
if you have a CD or DVD drive that can read and write CDs or DVDs and
whether it can read and write to a dual-layer DVD.

Start Windows Easy Transfer on your new computer, and then follow the
instructions for using CDs or DVDs.

USB flash drive or external hard disk
What you'll need: A USB flash drive (this requires a USB port on each
computer) or an external hard disk compatible with both computers.

Start Windows Easy Transfer on your new computer, and then follow the
instructions for using a USB flash drive or an external hard disk.

Note
To decide what method to use, consider how much you are transferring. If
you're transferring everything from all users or all of your user account
files, or if you select many files while making a custom selection of which
files and settings to transfer, an Easy Transfer Cable or a network is a
good option because the transfer can take a while and you won't have to
worry about having enough room for everything. If you're only transferring a
few files or folders, then consider using removable media such as CDs, DVDs,
or a flash drive, any of which might be as fast as using an Easy Transfer
Cable or a network."

CH
 
WET supports saving to intermediate storage exactly as the FAST wizard in XP
does. It can be shiny media (spanned is supported), an internal drive, or
an external drive. I beleive zip drives, flash drives, and network drives
are also supported. It works for XP to Vista or Vista to Vista. The only
requirement is that you must use WET from the Vista dvd on XP. XP FAST to
Vista WET transfers are not supported. A FAST created file is not
compatible with WET.

The transfer cable is for use with two different computers only. They have
to both be running.

There is a WET Companion beta (downloadable at the time of Vista Launch)
that can transfer applications from XP to Vista between two machines or from
Vista to Vista between two machines. WET Companion beta does not support
intermediate storage so it is of no use where you are migrating between
volumes on the same computer. It is a live-only app between two running
machines and your options are the special WET Companion cable or a network
connection (I beleive it has to be an infrastructure and not an ad hoc
network). WET Companion may support intermediate storage in a future
release.
 
MS's stance on that issue must have changed with Vista. Because of the
Anytime Upgrade, MS wants manufacturer's to provide a Vista dvd. The dvd is
required in order to do an Anytime Upgrade.
 
If that's happened I missed it, (I well could have). I noticed Dell
promised to start shipping an OS DVD. If this is becoming the norm, it's a
very favorable move because I'm not sure how many situations there will be
for the small license buyer to have access to Win RE's components without
it.

CH
 
An OEM could put the WinRE environment in a hidden partition, but I agree
that the way the OEM's handled XP was messy for users.
 
Back
Top