Install new AV before NAV expires?

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I have decided to replace my NAV when it expires at the end of the month. I
probably will go with NOD32 or Kaspersky. Should I let the NAV expire and
then install new or install new app before NAV expires then let it lapse? I
hope to avoid a conflict, etc. Thanx- Lib
 
lib said:
I have decided to replace my NAV when it expires at the end of the month. I
probably will go with NOD32 or Kaspersky. Should I let the NAV expire and
then install new or install new app before NAV expires then let it lapse? I
hope to avoid a conflict, etc. Thanx- Lib
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Just uninstall NAV, then re-install; gives you another year.
Also, download the "intelligent updater" manually and run it
manually; forget the "automatic" stuff.
 
I'm a bit unclear of the concept you are advising. Are you saying that if I
un-install then re- install NAV I will have gained another year of
subscription for free? PS:I don't have a NAV disc.
 
From: "lib" <[email protected]>

| I'm a bit unclear of the concept you are advising. Are you saying that if I
| un-install then re- install NAV I will have gained another year of
| subscription for free? PS:I don't have a NAV disc.
|

Remove NAV and then install NOD32. Do it at least one week prior to the expiration of the
NAV subscription.

That's your *best* advice.
 
lib said:
I'm a bit unclear of the concept you are advising. Are you saying that if I
un-install then re- install NAV I will have gained another year of
subscription for free? PS:I don't have a NAV disc.
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That used to work with 2001, but I don't believe it works with the later
versions.
Just uninstall Norton when you are ready to install the new anti-virus.
You may want to go to the Symantec site to get directions on how to uninstall
Norton completely, if you wish.
 
Buffalo said:
That used to work with 2001, but I don't believe it works with
the later versions.
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Yes it works with NAV 2002 also.

That is a problem. I'm thinking you need the original program CD in
order to re-install.

What I do is copy the entire CD contents to a directory on the
computer. When I want to get another year's worth of updates, I
un-install NAV, delete all NAV directories on the computer, and then
run the installation from the directory on the computer. Takes care
of not having the CD.
 
Virus Guy said:
Yes it works with NAV 2002 also.


That is a problem. I'm thinking you need the original program CD in
order to re-install.

What I do is copy the entire CD contents to a directory on the
computer. When I want to get another year's worth of updates, I
un-install NAV, delete all NAV directories on the computer, and then
run the installation from the directory on the computer. Takes care
of not having the CD.
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From NAV 2002 on uninstalling creates and leaves some files on your PC
designed to keep you from just reinstalling and getting a free
additional year. I've run into this a number of times where I had a
valid reason to reinstall NAV.

NAV is such a space and resource hog just uninstall it and go buy a copy
of NOD32. You can back it up with one or two of the free AV programs
that are available and run them as on demand scanners.

Symantec has an uninstaller on their web site that does a much better
job of cleaning out NAV than the Ad/Remove Programs method. When I
uninstalled the last version of NAV I was using, I recovered 128MB of
HDD space! (it might have even been 400MBs, I don't remember)

Also, get a free copy of Kerio Personal Firewall 2.15 (do a Google
search for this version) plus AdAware and SpyBot if you don't already
have them...... then practice Safe Hex!

Chas.
 
* * Chas said:
From NAV 2002 on uninstalling creates and leaves some files on
your PC designed to keep you from just reinstalling and getting
a free additional year.
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I don't think that the un-install process (NAV 2001 or 2002) creates
anything new on your computer. No new registry keys, no new
directories and no new files.

What it *doesn't* do upon un-installation is remove itself entirely
from your registry and hard drive. Various program directories (and
files) are still there after un-installation.

Some claim that the presence of a single file (catalog.livesubscribe)
is what prevents a successful re-installation with re-activation of
another year's worth of updates. As I just mentioned, that file is
not deleted when you un-install the program.

I see that my currently active NAV 2002 installation does indeed have
such a file (c:\windows\all users\application
data\symantec\livesubscribe). The file is described as a "LiveReg
User Profile". It's about 1kb in size and doesn't seem to contain any
ascii readable text.

In any case, after un-installing NAV (2001 or 2002) then you can
either search your hard drive and delete any and all directories with
"symantec" and "Norton" in the name, or perhaps you can simply delete
the single file "catalog.livesubscribe". Then re-install NAV and you
will have 1 full year of subscription updates.

Symantec says that NAV 2002 is no longer supported (and says nothing
about 2001) but I garantee you that if you re-install either one as
described above (today, tommorrow, etc) that upon your first live
updata session you will be able to obtain all program updates for
either version that have ever been made available.

If you do a google search for "catalog.livesubscribe" I think you'll
find references to several hacked versions of that file that change
the expiration date way out into the future (12 years or more).
I've run into this a number of times where I had a
valid reason to reinstall NAV.
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And I've done it several times now with both NAV 2001 and 2002 to
extend the live update subscription service.
NAV is such a space and resource hog
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more so NAV 2003, not necessarily 2001 or 2002.
Symantec has an uninstaller on their web site that does a
much better job of cleaning out NAV than the Ad/Remove
Programs method.
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I believe only NAV 2003 (or maybe 2004/2005) requires a more
sophisticated uninstaller. You definately don't need it for
2001/2002.
 
Virus Guy said:
I don't think that the un-install process (NAV 2001 or 2002) creates
anything new on your computer. No new registry keys, no new
directories and no new files.

What it *doesn't* do upon un-installation is remove itself entirely
from your registry and hard drive. Various program directories (and
files) are still there after un-installation.

Some claim that the presence of a single file (catalog.livesubscribe)
is what prevents a successful re-installation with re-activation of
another year's worth of updates. As I just mentioned, that file is
not deleted when you un-install the program.

I see that my currently active NAV 2002 installation does indeed have
such a file (c:\windows\all users\application
data\symantec\livesubscribe). The file is described as a "LiveReg
User Profile". It's about 1kb in size and doesn't seem to contain any
ascii readable text.

In any case, after un-installing NAV (2001 or 2002) then you can
either search your hard drive and delete any and all directories with
"symantec" and "Norton" in the name, or perhaps you can simply delete
the single file "catalog.livesubscribe". Then re-install NAV and you
will have 1 full year of subscription updates.

Symantec says that NAV 2002 is no longer supported (and says nothing
about 2001) but I garantee you that if you re-install either one as
described above (today, tommorrow, etc) that upon your first live
updata session you will be able to obtain all program updates for
either version that have ever been made available.

If you do a google search for "catalog.livesubscribe" I think you'll
find references to several hacked versions of that file that change
the expiration date way out into the future (12 years or more).


And I've done it several times now with both NAV 2001 and 2002 to
extend the live update subscription service.


more so NAV 2003, not necessarily 2001 or 2002.


I believe only NAV 2003 (or maybe 2004/2005) requires a more
sophisticated uninstaller. You definately don't need it for
2001/2002.
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Good input.
 
Smiling Wickedly, David H. Lipman answered:
From: "lib" <[email protected]>

| I'm a bit unclear of the concept you are advising. Are you saying that if I
| un-install then re- install NAV I will have gained another year of
| subscription for free? PS:I don't have a NAV disc.


|

Remove NAV and then install NOD32. Do it at least one week prior to the expiration of the
NAV subscription.

That's your *best* advice.
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Hardly. NOD is shit. And don't do spewing about how MS uses it. THATS
the biggest reason NOT to use it. It's crap.
 
From: "Blackheart" <[email protected]>


| Hardly. NOD is shit. And don't do spewing about how MS uses it. THATS
| the biggest reason NOT to use it. It's crap.

That's YOUR opinion and it is one not shared in the AV industry nor in this News Group.
NOD32 is held in very high regard and I couldn't give a sh!t what Microsoft uses.
 
David H. Lipman answered:
From: "Blackheart" <[email protected]>


| Hardly. NOD is shit. And don't do spewing about how MS uses it. THATS
| the biggest reason NOT to use it. It's crap.

That's YOUR opinion and it is one not shared in the AV industry nor in this News Group.
NOD32 is held in very high regard and I couldn't give a sh!t what Microsoft uses.
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THIS from the man that thinks ISP's control usenet. ONCE AGAIN you don't
know what the **** you're talking about. NOD isn't considered PERIOD in
teh AV industry. Go to bed hairlipman, you're obviously up past your bed
time. As far as you not giving a shit what MS uses. Then EXPLAIN why not
long ago you were parroting the fact that "Microsoft uses NOD, Microsoft
uses NOD , OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
 
Buffalo said:
Good input.
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The un-install and re-install process i mentioned works for NAV 2001.
It does not matter that various files and registry entries are left
behind.
I never use the automatic and/or live update, period; have it disabled.
I manually download the free "intelligent updater" as mentioned.
And i think a few days have passed since the release of NAV 2001...
BTW, *never* register online; use the Mail-in" option and toss the paper.
 
Conor answered:
This is from a man who uses Earthlink.
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Until you get a REAL email account instead of using a loser account such
as Gmail, Hotmail, yahoo or other Free email accounts, you're not even
worth wasting breath on. I have an Idea, why not go play hide and go
**** yourself.
 
Blackheart said:
Conor answered:

Until you get a REAL email account instead of using a loser account such
as Gmail, Hotmail, yahoo or other Free email accounts, you're not even
worth wasting breath on. I have an Idea, why not go play hide and go
**** yourself.
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