Install Catch 22

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Dave Bolt

I just encountered another machine with the Catch 22 situation on download,
i.e. cannot download anything because of the garbage running on the system.
This particular situation did allow me to go to one page on The Internet and
eventually get that page, but attempting to follow the link to validate
always failed to complete, so could not get to the download page.
Fortunately, I noticed that in this particular instance there was
IEXPLOR.exe (or some very similar spelling), running all the time, killed it
with Task Manager and was able to progress.

So, I was thinking. Would it be possible to have a download without all the
complex stuff so that something can be obtained that will allow limited
cleaning to restore functionality?
Another possibility, information on the download pages to advise the reader
on how to disable processes on startup.

Just some vague suggestions for people to think about.
Regards
Dave
 
I know that this is definitely an issue that has been considered in planning
for the beta2 product. I don't know how they've been able to deal with
it--but we'll find out before long. Even safe mode is not particularly
"safe" when it comes to rootkit behavior, and we've now got concrete
examples of both adware and DRM software that use rootkit techniques to
conceal themselves.
 
DRM = Digital Rights Managment, see this discussion:

(oct 31 entry: http://www.sysinternals.com/Blog/ )

There's a pretty good discussion of what a rootkit is here:

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/RootkitRevealer.html

Basically, it is code which attempts to hide from the operating system and
the user. Typically, this is malicious code--trojans used to take over your
machine, but it can also be adware or spyware, or, as in the first
reference, a mechanism invented by a vendor to attempt to enforce their
copyright to a given work. Rootkit generally means something Really
Bad--but we are seeing increasing numbers of code which fits this
description but isn't a virus or a trojan--such as some advertising spyware,
and the Sony software from the first URL>

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Thanks,
Dave
Bill Sanderson said:
DRM = Digital Rights Managment, see this discussion:

(oct 31 entry: http://www.sysinternals.com/Blog/ )

There's a pretty good discussion of what a rootkit is here:

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/RootkitRevealer.html

Basically, it is code which attempts to hide from the operating system and
the user. Typically, this is malicious code--trojans used to take over
your machine, but it can also be adware or spyware, or, as in the first
reference, a mechanism invented by a vendor to attempt to enforce their
copyright to a given work. Rootkit generally means something Really
Bad--but we are seeing increasing numbers of code which fits this
description but isn't a virus or a trojan--such as some advertising
spyware, and the Sony software from the first URL>
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