Inkject refill vs laserjet.

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Laserjet is cheaper than inkjet.

But... how does the following compare:

Compatible inkjet refills vs branded laserjet ink

and

Compatible inkjet refills vs compatible laserjet ink

??

Thanks.


OM
 
Check consumer Reports on their unbiased (well we all have biases) opinion
of inkjet refills and offbrand inkjet cartridges. They liked neither.

John
 
Here's the deal. If you purchase an HP printer or an Epson or whatever
brand printer, the printer manufacturer can only assure you of achieving
their levels of quality in your prints if you use THEIR inks or, in the case
of laser printers, THEIR toners. Since they have no control whatsoever over
any other inks or toners, they can not be held responsible for your printing
results should you choose to use those products.

The term "LaserJet" is used by HP only for a line of their laser printers.
Laser printers, as they are commonly known, use a toner cartridge. They do
not use inks. Think of the differences between OEM inks and cartridges, as
well as toners and associated cartridges, and "aftermarket" or "compatible"
or "remanufactured" cartridges, inks and or toners as the difference between
Cheerios made by General Mills and a cereal that looks the same made by
Safeway.

When you buy a box of genuine Cheerios you get a cereal made by General
Mills, to their exact specifications, meeting their quality control
standards. When you buy a box of cereal from Safeway, with the Safeway
brand, that looks exactly like the product from General Mills, you get a
cereal that may or may not be made to some certain standard of quality, but
that looks just like the more expensive box of Cheerios on the shelf next to
it.
 
Kevin said:
Here's the deal. If you purchase an HP printer or an Epson or whatever
brand printer, the printer manufacturer can only assure you of achieving
their levels of quality in your prints if you use THEIR inks
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THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. I HOPE YOU DO NOT EXPECT A QUALITY MFT TO
WARRANTY SOME TWO BIT NEBISH THAT WILL NOT EVEN TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY
SELL THEM
 
John said:
Check consumer Reports on their unbiased (well we all have biases) opinion
of inkjet refills and offbrand inkjet cartridges. They liked neither.
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IT IS QUITE APPRANENT THAT THEY KNOW SOMETHING
 
John said:
Check consumer Reports on their unbiased (well we all have biases) opinion
of inkjet refills and offbrand inkjet cartridges. They liked neither.

John
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Yeah they're long time users right? Therefore they have years of user
experience to share right?
Bullshit!
Frank
 
fb said:
Yeah they're long time users right? Therefore they have years of user
experience to share right?
Bullshit!
Frank
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John Pezzano wrote:
Check consumer Reports on their unbiased (well we all have biases)
opinion of inkjet refills and offbrand inkjet cartridges. They liked
neither.

John
YOU SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE JOHN.
 
Laserjet is cheaper than inkjet.

Not always... esp those low cost AIO laser printers that approach over
3.5 cents a page. There are many an inkjet that costs less per page.
Check consumer Reports on their unbiased (well we all have biases) opinion
of inkjet refills and offbrand inkjet cartridges. They liked neither.
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I can't find the consumer reports artical, but I can find the PC world
one

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111767,pg,2,00.asp#

They said that a couple of brands were compairable but the price was a
tad high... so it's reasonable to assume that there are other options
that are compairable that cost less.

But which is cheaper.... a typical good consumer deal for ink is
2.50/oz good for about 1000 pages/oz depending on your printer's model.


I remember that my old panasonic 4450i took bulk toner 33.5 oz of it
per 5000 pages or so, so about 150/page. The offical toner was
$50ish.. off brands you can get for $10 to $20. so about 30 to 60
cents/ounce but in this case it takes 3.33 times as much toner as
ink... so between $1.00 and $2.00 per equilivent unit.

So based on these numbers, which I admit i'm using a really old
wasteful laser to contrast... the laserjet is cheaper for bulk toner...
not including consumables such as drum, developer, fuser, inkjet head,
whatever what not.
 
Sadly after doing the "Math" you will find that inkjets using high quality
3rd party ink is a lot cheaper.

Black and White Lasers can be bought for $80 and the print quality is
excellent but those 1500 and 4500 page toner carts are expensive, $75 for
the 1500 and $130 for the 4500 page cart.

Let's imagine you actually get 1500 pages out of the $75 cart that works out
to 5 cents a page and about 3 cents a page for the 4500 cart.

The problem is you will only get half the page count, so double the numbers
above.

Lasers can print 5000 pages or more per month and not wear out.

Inkjet:

Inkjets don't cost much either, right now the Canon IP4000 can be bought for
$50 after rebate. The pigment black is excellent and waterproof. The text is
sharp and nearly laser quality. Refilling it with bulk ink from
http://www.alotofthings.com/catalog/bulkinks_Canon_BCI-6-BCI-3.htm will run
you about $1.35 per cart. The cart can do about 500 pages real world. So
1500 pages would cost you $1.35 x 3 = $4.05. That is a lot cheaper then $75
per cart for the laser.

The only downside to inkjet is the monthly duty cycle, they are usually
intended for Home or small office use. A friend owned a i860 and printed 600
pages of text per month as well as photos and DVD covers. After 2 years of
heavy use the printer was worn out. Not a big deal though he just bought the
IP4000 which uses the same printhead and carts.
 
Knightcrawler said:
Sadly after doing the "Math" you will find that inkjets using high quality
3rd party ink is a lot cheaper.

Black and White Lasers can be bought for $80 and the print quality is
excellent but those 1500 and 4500 page toner carts are expensive, $75 for
the 1500 and $130 for the 4500 page cart.

Let's imagine you actually get 1500 pages out of the $75 cart that works out
to 5 cents a page and about 3 cents a page for the 4500 cart.

The problem is you will only get half the page count, so double the numbers
above.

Lasers can print 5000 pages or more per month and not wear out.

Inkjet:

Inkjets don't cost much either, right now the Canon IP4000 can be bought for
$50 after rebate. The pigment black is excellent and waterproof.
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I WOULD NOT SAY THAT. IT STILL HAS A TENDANCY TO SMEAR.
The text is
sharp and nearly laser quality.
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AS FOR TEXT QUALITY, THE HP990 IS SUPERIOR. I HAVE BOTH SIDE BY SIDE
AND RAN TESTS. THERE IS NO DOUBT. HOWEVER, THE CANON IS GOOD ENOUGH
WHEN YOU DO NOT COMPARE SIDE BY SIDE. THE CANON IS ON A NETWORK AND IS
ALSO USED FOR PHOTOS. THE HP IS USED MOSTLY FOR BUSINESS DOCUMENTS.
THE CANON IS FASTER.
Refilling it with bulk ink from
http://www.alotofthings.com/catalog/bulkinks_Canon_BCI-6-BCI-3.htm will run
you about $1.35 per cart.
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I WOULD NEVER BUY FROM THAT PLACE.
The cart can do about 500 pages real world. So
1500 pages would cost you $1.35 x 3 = $4.05. That is a lot cheaper then $75
per cart for the laser.

The only downside to inkjet is the monthly duty cycle, they are usually
intended for Home or small office use. A friend owned a i860 and printed 600
pages of text per month as well as photos and DVD covers. After 2 years of
heavy use the printer was worn out. Not a big deal though he just bought the
IP4000 which uses the same printhead and carts.
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HE BUYS PRINTERS FOR $20.00 USED. FOR HIM THE PRINTER IS A SUPPLY NOT
AN ASSET
 
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