Ink Drying Time on Photo Paper?

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Got myself a new Canon ip5200 printer and printed a bunch of photos on
Non-Canon glossy photo paper I had.
As I am new to this, I do know and have not found any info on how long I
need to let the prints dry before putting them into my photo album.
Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?
 
Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?

Depends on the paper, as well as the enviroment. Microporous papers
like the premium PR-101... and oddly enough Hammermil indoor sign
labels I can spray with a polyacrylic spray directly out of the printer
without bleeding... where a water based solution I have to wait. The
kirkland photo paper for example I can pour under water directly out of
the printer and it bleeds only a little bit. I'm thinking 20min would
be overkill.. I lack an accurate number on this.

Swellable papers like Kodak Premium Glossy paper a day would not be
overkill.
 
Jack said:
Got myself a new Canon ip5200 printer and printed a bunch of photos on
Non-Canon glossy photo paper I had.
As I am new to this, I do know and have not found any info on how
long I need to let the prints dry before putting them into my photo
album. Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?
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Normally 12-24 hours is reccomended. However, Canon Photo paper is designed
so that ink is dry "on the feel" instantly - because it has sort of ceramic
micro coat and ink goes under this coat so you have the feeling that it's
dry, while it's not. So before any spraying or putting into album, better
wait 'til next day - at the end, what's the rush anyway...no need to tell (i
hope) that absolute best paper is esential for excellent and long lasting
results. Best way is to print some photos on canon's best (PR101) and
compare with other paper you might have, although this will tell you visual
difference, but not longevity one...
 
Canon recommends 24 hours before putting them in an Album or behind
glass. I use Costco/Kirkland Full Sheet Glossy paper (may be Ilford)
and have found it is about 97% the quality as Canon Photo Paper Pro and
1/7 of the cost.
 
measekite <[email protected]> posted the exciting message [email protected]:

I use Costco/Kirkland Full Sheet Glossy paper (may be Ilford)

Sounds like its relabeled. You don't know what it is and they won't tell
you. Based upon your logic, this is not quality and you shouldn't be using
it to save money.

Hahaha!
 
Prime said:
measekite <[email protected]> posted the exciting message [email protected]:

I use Costco/Kirkland Full Sheet Glossy paper (may be Ilford)

Sounds like its relabeled. You don't know what it is and they won't tell
you. Based upon your logic, this is not quality and you shouldn't be using
it to save money.

Hahaha!
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Ridiculous huh! That's lying sack-of-shit and his oem bullshit.
What a total ****wit loser.
Frank
 
Ridiculous huh! That's lying sack-of-shit and his oem bullshit.
What a total ****wit loser.
Frank
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You said it very well! "OEM ink is important because it's matched to the
printer and the paper". And then she goes ahead and uses non-OEM paper!
 
zakezuke said:
Depends on the paper, as well as the enviroment. Microporous papers
like the premium PR-101... and oddly enough Hammermil indoor sign
labels I can spray with a polyacrylic spray directly out of the printer
without bleeding... where a water based solution I have to wait. The
kirkland photo paper for example I can pour under water directly out of
the printer and it bleeds only a little bit. I'm thinking 20min would
be overkill.. I lack an accurate number on this.

Swellable papers like Kodak Premium Glossy paper a day would not be
overkill.
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Zakezuke is right when considering how quickly you can handle prints
without concern for smearing, sorting, or mailing them. s on what you want
to do with the prints. Apparently, the dry-to-touch condition of the prints
when leaving the printer still has some residual moisture that should
evaporate before framing, however. I have read that even with the so called
"instant dry" papers, microporous papers like Canon and Kirkland, it would
be best to leave them out for 24 hours before framing them as any residual
moisture could condense on the glass.
 
Got myself a new Canon ip5200 printer and printed a bunch of photos on
Non-Canon glossy photo paper I had.
As I am new to this, I do know and have not found any info on how long I
need to let the prints dry before putting them into my photo album.
Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?
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Let me guess - it's Kodak paper, right? If so, pitch it in the trash.
 
Canon recommends 24 hours before putting them in an Album or behind
glass. I use Costco/Kirkland Full Sheet Glossy paper (may be Ilford)
and have found it is about 97% the quality as Canon Photo Paper Pro and
1/7 of the cost.
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Similar to the savings (although less than) you would get by refilling
cartridges with aftermarket ink.
 
Ron said:
Similar to the savings (although less than) you would get by refilling
cartridges with aftermarket ink.
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NO NOT AT ALL. NO MESS. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING. IT WILL NOT
CLOG THE PRINTER. AND YOU HAVE A LARGE REPUTABLE SUPPLIER.
 
measekite said:
NO NOT AT ALL. NO MESS. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING.
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No you don't. The supplier could be Ilford on week, or it could be el-cheapo
paper supplies from Abu Dhabi then next.
IT WILL NOT CLOG THE PRINTER.
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It could jam it up though, and I've seen laser printers ruined by using
unsuitable paper even though the paper said "laser" on the box.
AND YOU HAVE A LARGE REPUTABLE SUPPLIER.
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and you are still just as full of shit as you were last year when I ventured
into this group. Good to see somethings never change.
 
measekite said:
NO NOT AT ALL.
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NO MESS.

I refill; there is no mess, there never has been. You're a compulsive
liar.

You don't refill; so naturally, you're totally clueless as to its
simplicity. Go back to school.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING.

Neither of us knows what we are getting (the ingredients are never
listed on the package). We're equally relying on the company to
provide us with safe, good ink. And after using my non-OEM ink for a
year, I'm very happy with what I'm getting (as you are, of course!) -
except I'm getting it at a mere fraction (a pittance) of what you're
paying. Go back to school and do the math. Oh, also take a logic course.

IT WILL NOT CLOG THE PRINTER.

It does not clog the printer. It never has. That's an outright lie by
you. Go back to school, you skipped the part about lying in class. If
you don't know something, don't talk like you do. People will think
you're a fool (THINK????...). Talk of your experiences. Ah, but you have
none.... (Guess what they're thinking?)

You make an extremely poor research analyst. A dismal failure.

AND YOU HAVE A LARGE REPUTABLE SUPPLIER.

Then we both got what we wanted. And I have a small, personal reputable
supplier. That wrote me several emails after my purchases. Funny, I
didn't get any personal emails from Canon after I bought several
printers. It's like they don't even know me! :-) Call them up for
service and they interrogate you like you're some sort of criminal. Any
wonder why people turn to small, friendly suppliers with personal service.

Yup, Ron Shaw (above poster) is absolutely correct, the savings are
enormous. You, on the other hand are sucking spent air, as usual. Go
back to school; you're an undergraduate in inkjet printing. Come back
(I hesitate to use those words) when you learn the abc's of economics
and printer inks.

-Taliesyn
 
Taliesyn said:
NO MESS.
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A REAL MESS
I refill; there is no mess, there never has been. You're a compulsive
liar.
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YOU ARE A COMPULSIVE LIAR
You don't refill; so naturally, you're totally clueless as to its
simplicity. Go back to school.
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YOU NEVER GRADUATED
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING.

Neither of us knows what we are getting (the ingredients are never
listed on the package). We're equally relying on the company to
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THAT WHY YOU SHOULD GRADUATE
provide us with safe, good ink. And after using my non-OEM ink for a
year, I'm very happy with what I'm getting (as you are, of course!) -
except I'm getting it at a mere fraction (a pittance) of what you're
paying. Go back to school and do the math. Oh, also take a logic course.

IT WILL NOT CLOG THE PRINTER.
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IT WILL CLOG THE PRINTER
It does not clog the printer. It never has. That's an outright lie by
you.
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THATS AN OUTRIGHT TRUTH
Go back to school,
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YOU NEVER GRADUATED
you skipped the part about lying in class. If
you don't know something, don't talk like you do. People will think
you're a fool (THINK????...). Talk of your experiences. Ah, but you have
none.... (Guess what they're thinking?)

You make an extremely poor research analyst. A dismal failure.

AND YOU HAVE A LARGE REPUTABLE SUPPLIER.

Then we both got what we wanted. And I have a small, personal reputable
supplier.
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DOES NOT EXIST
 
Zitty said:
No you don't. The supplier could be Ilford on week, or it could be el-cheapo
paper supplies from Abu Dhabi then next.
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A REMOTE POSSIBILITY WITH COSTCO
It could jam it up though, and I've seen laser printers ruined by using
unsuitable paper even though the paper said "laser" on the box.
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NOT A LASER
and you are still just as full of shit as you were last year when I ventured
into this group. Good to see somethings never change.
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THEN YOU CAN VENTURE SOME PLACE ELSE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
 
NO NOT AT ALL. NO MESS. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING. IT WILL NOT
CLOG THE PRINTER. AND YOU HAVE A LARGE REPUTABLE SUPPLIER.
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But, as you point out for ink, Costco doesn't tell you who their
supplier is, Kirkland, is by your perverse definition "NOT A BRAND" and
they are "in da business" (excuse me, I meant to say "DEY ARE IN DA
BUSINESS") whatever tf that is supposed to mean.
 
You are assuming that because it doesn't bleed it is "dry", and this
isn't accurate. Microporus papers lock the ink in under the ceramic
layer into the layers of substrate below the porous layer, but that
doesn't make them dry.

Most, if not all inkjet inks contain some glycols to both slow drying
(to help prevent clogs) and to help them penetrate the surface (they
break up surface tension). Glycols can take weeks to dry. If you seal
a print before the glycols have evaporated they can get caught inside
the paper, because the back of most inkjet paper isn't porous (there is
often a plastic surface somewhere on the backing either right at the
surface, or under all the top surface surfaces.


People who, for instance, frame images soon after printer on microporous
papers, often find a ghostly copy of the image developing on the inside
glass surface, made of evaporated and redeposited glycols. This is
particularly the case with high glycol inks, Epson Ultrachrome are one
example.

In the case of those inks, up to a week covered with absorbent newsprint
is recommended.

Art
 
Kodak makes swellable polymer papers. It is a valid technology, and the
advantage is it locks the inks in place better so they do not fade as
easily. The difference in fading can be significant, and since some
Canon inks are relatively fugitive, this can be important.

The downside is this type of paper takes longer to dry (surface dry),
and remains vulnerable to fingerprints and water/moisture.

Art
 
Arthur said:
Kodak makes swellable polymer papers. It is a valid technology, and
the advantage is it locks the inks in place better so they do not fade
as easily. The difference in fading can be significant, and since
some Canon inks are relatively fugitive, this can be important.

The downside is this type of paper takes longer to dry (surface dry),
and remains vulnerable to fingerprints and water/moisture.
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KODAK IS NOT RECOMMENDED ON CANON PRINTERS. IT DOES A POOR JOB. I USE
COSTCO/KIRKLAND AND I HAVE HAD NO FADING PROBLEMS IN OVER A YEAR.
 
Ron said:
But, as you point out for ink, Costco doesn't tell you who their
supplier is, Kirkland,
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YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE MERCHANDISING DEPARTMENT IN SEATTLE AND THEY
WILL TELL YOU.
is by your perverse definition "NOT A BRAND" and
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COSTCO IS LARGE ENOUGH SO THAT IT IS A STORE PRIVATE BRAND. STAPLES AND
OFFICE DEPOT ARE IN THE SAME POSITION. THEN YOU CAN DIFFERENTIATE
BETWEEN A MFG BRAND AND A STORE BRAND. YOU COULD EVEN SAY THE SAME
THING ABOUT WALMART WHICH I THINK IS A TERRIBLE STORE.
they are "in da business" (excuse me, I meant to say "DEY ARE IN DA
BUSINESS") whatever tf that is supposed to mean.
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AND YOU ARE IN DA STUPID BUSINESS. AND I DO NOT EVEN HAVE TO HELP YOU.
 
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