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It is a design time function of FP.

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Thomas said:
It is a design time function of FP.
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Thanks both Tom and Thomas. If I understand this correctly, I could copy
the html that is produced onto a page in Dreamweaver and it would work.

Is this correct?

Thanks,
Harvey
 
No.
The FrontPage include page is a feature that works in FrontPage when you
are building/editing pages. If you use an include page, then all pages
that use the include will be updated if/when you edit the include page in a
FrontPage web using FrontPage.
Dreamweaver does not handle FrontPage includes.

You can copy the HTML produced into Dreamweaver, but you will have to copy
it from a View Source in Browser - and updating the include page in
Dreamweaver will NOT update any pages using the include.
 
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| Besides, using both Dreamweaver and FP to work on a site is risky
| business....
|
| --
| Murray
| --------------
| MVP Front Page
|
|
| | > No.
| > The FrontPage include page is a feature that works in FrontPage when you
| > are building/editing pages. If you use an include page, then all pages
| > that use the include will be updated if/when you edit the include page
in
| > a FrontPage web using FrontPage.
| > Dreamweaver does not handle FrontPage includes.
| >
| > You can copy the HTML produced into Dreamweaver, but you will have to
copy
| > it from a View Source in Browser - and updating the include page in
| > Dreamweaver will NOT update any pages using the include.
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| > | >> Thomas A. Rowe wrote:
| >>> It is a design time function of FP.
| >>>
| >> Thanks both Tom and Thomas. If I understand this correctly, I could
copy
| >> the html that is produced onto a page in Dreamweaver and it would work.
| >>
| >> Is this correct?
| >>
| >> Thanks,
| >> Harvey
| >
| >
|
|
 
Ronx said:
No.
The FrontPage include page is a feature that works in FrontPage when you
are building/editing pages. If you use an include page, then all pages
that use the include will be updated if/when you edit the include page in a
FrontPage web using FrontPage.
Dreamweaver does not handle FrontPage includes.

You can copy the HTML produced into Dreamweaver, but you will have to copy
it from a View Source in Browser - and updating the include page in
Dreamweaver will NOT update any pages using the include.
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Thank you. This answers the question. I guess I am off to the
dreamweaver group to see if there is an equivalent over there. I have
just started learning dreamweaver, but have of late been making rather
extensive use of includes rather than frames. Is there another way of
getting this functionality?

Harvey
 
Murray said:
Besides, using both Dreamweaver and FP to work on a site is risky
business....
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Yes, I understand this.

BTW - are you the same Murray that is equivalently helpful in the
macromedia.dreamweaver group?

Thanks again for all your help - now and in the past!

Harvey
 
Yes, that would be me. Good luck to you!

And to explain further, DW uses standard includes. FP uses special
'design-time includes', which are mediated by FP during the publish process
on any page. The difference is this -

A "standard" include would be a true code fragment, i.e., it is just a
snippet of *stand-alone* code, e.g.,

<p>this would be an example</p>

Note that there are no <html>, <head>, or <body> tags in this snippet (while
you *can* actually do this, it makes Dreamweaver nuts when you do).

A FP include is a complete, stand-alone page, which, when included in the
parent file during publish, the FP bot engine cleans up to remove those
redundant tags.

The concept is precisely the same, but the implementation is different.
 
Murray said:
Yes, that would be me. Good luck to you!

And to explain further, DW uses standard includes. FP uses special
'design-time includes', which are mediated by FP during the publish process
on any page. The difference is this -

A "standard" include would be a true code fragment, i.e., it is just a
snippet of *stand-alone* code, e.g.,

<p>this would be an example</p>

Note that there are no <html>, <head>, or <body> tags in this snippet (while
you *can* actually do this, it makes Dreamweaver nuts when you do).

A FP include is a complete, stand-alone page, which, when included in the
parent file during publish, the FP bot engine cleans up to remove those
redundant tags.

The concept is precisely the same, but the implementation is different.
Click to expand...
Thanks again. I see what you mean. It operates as a server side include,
which I had heard of but never used until now.

Harvey
 
Dreamweaver will NOT update any pages using the include.

Au contraire. The pages using the include will use the updated version both
in DW and on the web.
 
Au contraire. If a page is using FP Includes then it will not be updated if the page is being
edited outside of FP.
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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
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Microsoft Product Support Services:
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If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
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Heh - sure, but the context of this statement was that it was a 'standard'
include, or did I misread it?
 
I took "standard" to be the FP Includes, since this is a FP newsgroup...vbg

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
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If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
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If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
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