imaging over network

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Peter

I'm trying to decide between Ghost 10 or Trueimage 9 for a client and
wanted to find out if someone knew how long it takes to backup onto
another computer over the network. I'm assuming a 60gig drive,
compressing down to 40gig. I'm assuming at least 10mbps through a wired
connection.

Thanks,
Pete
 
Peter said:
I'm trying to decide between Ghost 10 or Trueimage 9 for a client
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In my opinion Ghost has nothing in its favour what so ever.

The main downsides are that you cant image from the booted CD,
you have to install it first, and thats bad news if you want to do a
safety image of a system before you do anything to it.

Drive cloning is close to useless, essentially because you cant do
it after booting the CD either, so you have massive problems with
drive letters when doing it at the XP level.

It needs net.framwork
and wanted to find out if someone knew how long it takes
to backup onto another computer over the network. I'm
assuming a 60gig drive, compressing down to 40gig. I'm
assuming at least 10mbps through a wired connection.
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I found that Ghost doesnt even come close to
keeping the net connection full in that config.
 
Peter said:
I'm trying to decide between Ghost 10 or Trueimage 9 for a client
Click to expand...

In my opinion Ghost has nothing in its favour what so ever.

The main downsides are that you cant image from the booted CD,
you have to install it first, and thats bad news if you want to do a
safety image of a system before you do anything to it.

Drive cloning is close to useless, essentially because you cant do
it after booting the CD either, so you have massive problems with
drive letters when doing it at the XP level.

It needs net.framwork
and wanted to find out if someone knew how long it takes
to backup onto another computer over the network. I'm
assuming a 60gig drive, compressing down to 40gig. I'm
assuming at least 10mbps through a wired connection.
Click to expand...

I found that Ghost doesnt even come close to
keeping the net connection full in that config so
no one can really tell you how long it will take
in your config because it depends on the horsepower
available on your system for doing the compression.
 
I'm trying to decide between Ghost 10 or Trueimage 9 for a client and
wanted to find out if someone knew how long it takes to backup onto
another computer over the network. I'm assuming a 60gig drive,
compressing down to 40gig. I'm assuming at least 10mbps through a wired
connection.
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You don't want to do it over 10mbps connection. At least Fast Ethernet.
Depending on your CPU, selected compression and your HD content, it should
run about 300MB/min. That makes slightly above 3 hours. If you are after
speed, you may reach about 700MB/min or more, but image size will be bigger.
 
Better to use an external hard drive than a 10mpbs connection.

I am still a ghost 2003 fan myself. I don't like backing up a working
system disk while windows is running.

Irwin
 
I am still a ghost 2003 fan myself. I don't like backing up a working
system disk while windows is running.
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I was too and it took a while to trust on-the-fly images but they do appear
to work :-) We use Acronis Server.

Rob.
 
Agreed that many people prefer it, especially those uncomfortable with
DOS, and that it does work sometimes or maybe most of the time. I found
it to be slower and that it occasionally hung my computer. My son, who
is strictly windows, tried to use it last weekend. It was the version
of ghost that came with Systemworks 2006 premier, which I got free
after rebates. It hung his computer the first time, but went through
the second time. I am happy that it works for you. I have tried only
ghost, have not tried Acronis. Mr. Speed obviously likes it alot. It is
so easy to obtain ghost legally for free or nearly free after rebate
that I haven't been able to convince myself to pay full price for
Acronis. Maybe if it ever goes on sale ......

Irwin
 
Agreed that many people prefer it, especially those uncomfortable with
DOS, and that it does work sometimes or maybe most of the time. I found
it to be slower and that it occasionally hung my computer. My son, who
is strictly windows, tried to use it last weekend. It was the version
of ghost that came with Systemworks 2006 premier, which I got free
after rebates. It hung his computer the first time, but went through
the second time. I am happy that it works for you. I have tried only
ghost, have not tried Acronis. Mr. Speed obviously likes it alot. It is
so easy to obtain ghost legally for free or nearly free after rebate
that I haven't been able to convince myself to pay full price for
Acronis. Maybe if it ever goes on sale ......
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I still use Ghost. Ghost32 in fact from WinPE bootable CD.
Supports all hardware that is Windows XP compatible (HD, network) and works
reliably with a decend speed.

As for live backup, I ocassionally use NTBackup on XP and 2003 systems.
Works with shadow copy very well. Easy to schedule.
 
What is ghost32? The bootable CD you refer to, is that the same as the
Symantec Recovery CD that ships with Systemworks?

IMF
 
What is ghost32? The bootable CD you refer to, is that the same as the
Symantec Recovery CD that ships with Systemworks?
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No. It is from Ghost 7.5 or better 8.x enterprise edition. Google for
Ghost32.exe.
I run a customised version of BartPE which is based on MS WinPE.
Look for Ghost plugin.
 
Irwin said:
Better to use an external hard drive than a 10mpbs connection.
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I am still a ghost 2003 fan myself. I don't like backing
up a working system disk while windows is running.
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You dont have to use ghost 2003 to do that, you can use True
Image from the booted CD and get lots of other advantages
like vastly better lan support than you get with ghost 2003.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I'm going to try the trial version of True
Image but had a question about ghost 2003 DOS. Is there a command line
for this that I can place in a batch file where it'll automatically
create a filename and begin the image process? I'd like to keep the
last 3 images on my usb drive.

Thanks,
Pete
 
I still use Ghost. Ghost32 in fact from WinPE bootable CD.
Supports all hardware that is Windows XP compatible (HD, network) and
works
reliably with a decend speed.
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Does it support big SATA drives?

Cheers, Rob.
 
I still use Ghost. Ghost32 in fact from WinPE bootable CD.
Does it support big SATA drives?
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There were reported problems with containers bigger than 1TB, so I would
assume it should work fine up to 1TB.
 
From the manual:

Norton Ghost can be run in the following ways:
â–  Interactively with no command-line switches
â–  Interactively with selected switches
â–  Automated in batch files (batch mode)
The Norton Ghost command-line switches are used to alter Norton Ghost
behavior and automate procedures.
If you are adding switches from the Advanced Options dialog box, some
of these
switches, for example, the -clone switch, are not applicable to your
task. Because
you are already performing a backup, restore, or clone operation, the
-clone
switch is redundant.
To list Norton Ghost command-line switches
â—† In the Ghost directory, type one of the following:
â–  ghost.exe -h
â–  ghost.exe -?
A hyphen (-) or a slash (/) must precede all switches except @.
Switches are not
case sensitive. They can be entered in upper, lower, or mixed case.
 
Peter said:
Thanks for all the replies. I'm going to try the trial version of True
Image but had a question about ghost 2003 DOS. Is there a command line
for this that I can place in a batch file where it'll automatically
create a filename and begin the image process? I'd like to keep the
last 3 images on my usb drive.

Thanks,
Pete
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Check out the FAQ section for Ghost switches, and experts on Ghost
support here:

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general
 
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