I'll Never Buy an ASUS mobo again

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What kind of b.s. is it when you purchase a mobo and find the BIOS doesn't
have the facility to setup the type of cpu you're using? That's the case
with the A7V8X-MX. Buying a mobo shouldn't be a crap shoot. Geez. What a
rip-off.
 
You should always do your homework before buying any hardware, learn it's
limitations, benefits, capabilities and some reviews are usually also good.
It's not Asus fault you didn't do that. Asus makes fine products.
It's like saying that you bought a P4 socket 478 and got mad cause it
wouldn't fit a socket 370 board. When you spend that much money, ALWAYS do
your home work first. I learned that lesson the hard way.
 
What kind of b.s. is it when you purchase a mobo and find the BIOS doesn't
have the facility to setup the type of cpu you're using? That's the case
with the A7V8X-MX. Buying a mobo shouldn't be a crap shoot. Geez. What a
rip-off.
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Maybe you just need to flash it to the latest BIOS?

Personally I never had any problems with Asus/AMD setups,
Good luck,
Ed
 
Jody said:
You should always do your homework before buying any hardware, learn it's
limitations, benefits, capabilities and some reviews are usually also
good. It's not Asus fault you didn't do that. Asus makes fine products.
It's like saying that you bought a P4 socket 478 and got mad cause it
wouldn't fit a socket 370 board. When you spend that much money, ALWAYS do
your home work first. I learned that lesson the hard way.
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Every mobo ASUS has built in at least the last 2 years has had adjustments
within the BIOS. Why would one even think they'd come up with an odd ball
mobo that only has a fixed switch to change FSB and way in the BIOS to
change the multiplier? And where would one research something like the
options in the BIOS before purchasing when it is a brandnew product? I
don't know what ASUS was thinking when it came out with this crippled
product? And no, they don't offer a BIOS that corrects this major
shortcoming. Damn ASUS!
 
Since you didn't bother to do ANY research prior to your decision to
purchase the board, the fault is entirely your own. *YOU* made the decision
to buy the board, and then blame it on ASUS when it won't support the
processor you wanted it to. You should have bought a board that you *KNEW*
supported the processor you wanted.

Bobby
 
LearningLinux said:
Every mobo ASUS has built in at least the last 2 years has had adjustments
within the BIOS. Why would one even think they'd come up with an odd ball
mobo that only has a fixed switch to change FSB and way in the BIOS to
change the multiplier? And where would one research something like the
options in the BIOS before purchasing when it is a brandnew product? I
don't know what ASUS was thinking when it came out with this crippled
product? And no, they don't offer a BIOS that corrects this major
shortcoming. Damn ASUS!
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A few links will answer some of your pre-purchase questions:

You can find a downloadable manual on the download page. Many
manuals even have a picture of the motherboard, although not all
manuals now include that. There are pictures of the BIOS screens
and explanations of what the switches do, and so on. Also on this
page, are BIOS files, and by reading the "More" links, you'll get
an idea of how much development work has gone into the board. If
there are few releases (such as on some of the server boards),
that is a warning that if there is a problem with the design of the
BIOS, it might take a long time, if ever, to get it resolved.

http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A7V8X-MX&Type=All

This link warns you about combinations of BIOS and processor
that are not expected to work. Just by the structure of some of
these pages, you'll get the idea that new processors need new
BIOS for support. Some product families are worse than others in
that respect. If you deal with a local retailer, they'll open the
box for you, and verify the BIOS release (mine did).

http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx

Some info on features:

http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/feature.htm

Large disk support:

http://www.asus.it/support/english/techref/48bithdd/index.aspx

I think there might even be a pre-sales phone number for you
to call.

As for microATX boards, they aren't intended for enthusiasts.
They are intended for system builders, building cheap boxes for
corporate users. After all, why have those terrible built-in
graphics, if you are a gamer ? Some of the microATX boards don't
even support PC3200 memory. I would recommend a full sized
board, to get a feature set you can use.

Buying motherboards based on price is a mistake. If you want
the lowest price, you've got to ask a lot more questions,
like what features got cut, to make the price so good.
Say you now switch from Asus to say Pcchips or ECS.
You'd want to do a lot more Googling, to find out if the
problems with a board, are problems you can live with.

The A7V400-MX also has the switches, and using the switches
means saving on the chip that drives the multiplier and frequency
setting. They probably saved a whole $1 by doing that.

The PC industry is full of cost cutting, functionality busting
choices. As a builder, your "value add", is knowing about
those choices.

Paul
 
Questions:

1. What CPU are you using ?

2. Did you update the Bios yet ?

3. Asus has a live update application which will find and install the very
latest bios, it so easy know you can do it right under windows.


LearningLinux said:
What kind of b.s. is it when you purchase a mobo and find the BIOS doesn't
have the facility to setup the type of cpu you're using? That's the case
with therip-off.A7V8X-MX
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. Buying a mobo shouldn't be a crap shoot. Geez. What a
 
LearningLinux said:
What kind of b.s. is it when you purchase a mobo and find the BIOS doesn't
have the facility to setup the type of cpu you're using? That's the case
with the A7V8X-MX. Buying a mobo shouldn't be a crap shoot. Geez. What a
rip-off.
Click to expand...

Why didn't you come and ask us for advise before you found out the hard way?
Don't rant... get even! Learn the easy way next time... it'll even the
score!

Good luck next time!
Cheers
Eddy
 
smart people of which you don't seem to be one usually download the manual
and read it. I'll bet you don't ask for directions Before you get lost
either!
 
NC2005 said:
Questions:

1. What CPU are you using ?

2. Did you update the Bios yet ?

3. Asus has a live update application which will find and install the very
latest bios, it so easy know you can do it right under windows.
Click to expand...

Save your efforts for someone that deserves it....
He's a lame troll that's to lazy to do some research of his own.

Nickeldome
 
LearningLinux said:
What kind of b.s. is it when you purchase a mobo and find the BIOS doesn't
have the facility to setup the type of cpu you're using? That's the case
with the A7V8X-MX. Buying a mobo shouldn't be a crap shoot. Geez. What a
rip-off.
Click to expand...

You save your bucks, you do your homework, you go out and kick ass.
The following fully assembled, with loathsome WincrapXP, with a fat
warranty, and a pile of games including Doom3 tossed in for free came
to 5.8% above the price of individual parts (not counting games) at
Web deep discount. Why build it yourself?

The two blue diodes outside the case are kinda tacky. As for the
stuff inside... it blows the crap out of every Xeon box it has
challenged doing heavy number crunching (and runs a well-cooled CPU
according to Speed Fan 4.20). Pentiums are overpriced overheated
jokes. The graphics are crisp and fast (and very creepy) in Doom3.
It replaces a PII/0.45 GHz/Win98 box. You won't hear any complaints
coming from me (except about Wincrap. Get ZTREE, gain control of your
HDD, and gut BillGates' hairball).

http://www.abspc.com/index.asp
MS^5-64

Case: Cooler Master Wave Master Case with Thermal Advantage Side
Panel Model "TAC-T01-EWA" -RETAIL
Power supply: Antec TRUE550 550W Power Supply
--> Motherboard: ASUS "A8V Deluxe" K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard
for AMD Socket 939 CPU
CPU: AMD SOCKET 939 ATHLON 64 FX-55 1MB L2 CACHE 64-BIT PROCESSOR -
OEM
Cooling system: Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 Copper Heatsink and Fan
for AMD Athlon 64 FX and Opteron
Memory: Corsair XMS Xtreme Memory Speed Series 2GB (2x1GB) PC3200
184-Pin - Low Latency
Graphics: NVIDIA GEFORCE 6800GT VIDEO CARD WITH DOOM 3 BUNDLE 256MB
GDDR3 256-BIT DVI/TV-OUT 8X AGP (EVGA)
(nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card 256MB DDR 256-bit DVI 8X
AGP(eVGA))
Sound card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 with 1394
Integrated ethernet
Hard drive: Maxtor 120GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA (ATA150)
CD/DVD/RW: Sony Internal 16X DVD+/-RW / Double Layer Drive Black Model
DW-D22A-B2 OEM
External Media: Mitsumi Combo Flash/FD Drive (Black) MS CF MMC SD SM
MD Reader/Writer Model FA404A/404M BLK
Modem: Aopen Internal 56K V.92 Voice/Data/Fax PCI Modem
Standard cables
Keyboard, mouse - plug in, no wireless
Monitor: Sony 17" LCD Monitor Model SDM-S73/B - (Black)
Cable modem connect: Integrated Gigabit Ethernet Network Controller

Would you rather have the money or the iron?
 
Jody Sleath wrote...
You should always do your homework before buying any hardware,
learn it's limitations, benefits, capabilities and some reviews are
usually also good. It's not Asus fault you didn't do that. Asus
makes fine products.
It's like saying that you bought a P4 socket 478 and got mad cause
it wouldn't fit a socket 370 board. When you spend that much money,
ALWAYS do your home work first. I learned that lesson the hard way.
Click to expand...


Out of lurking mode...

I'd like to interrupt this thread and give everyone in this newsgroup
a great big *THANK YOU* for all the help and advice I have received.

Waiting for the prices to drop on...
P5GD2 Deluxe
Processor
PCIe Video Card
Memory

Davïd
Greenville, NC
 
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