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sonar732

Hello all,

I've been tasked as the only computer savy member of our church to
create a website. Most of our members still only have dial up. There
is almost too much information when it comes to creating a website. My
plan is to have 5 sites linked to the home page with a total of 8 others
linked to them. I don't have any high end photo manipulation software
like Adobe Photoshop or Microsoft Photodraw.

For navigation, I was planning on using a table with corner, header,
left, and body style. However, everytime that I try to place a photo
in the body as a background, it doesn't fit correctly. Will I have to
eat the big bucks for the above software?

Sorry for being a noob...but I was just overwelmed with all the info
available.
 
sonar732 said:
Hello all,

I've been tasked as the only computer savy member of our church to
create a website. Most of our members still only have dial up.

A warning then - don't add too many images. If you do, optimise them as much
as possible to get them smaller in size - about 40K - 50K each.
(If you don't know what optimise means - as I didn't when I first read it,
post back. There is good free software available on the net to do the task.)
If dial-up speed is 56Kbps (as in Australia), work out how many you can
afford to use before the members get sick of waiting.
My plan is to have 5 sites linked to the home page with a total of 8
others linked to them.

I don't understand: "5 *sites* linked to the home page"
Linking a site is something like
<a href="http://www.w3schools.com/" title="Visit W3Schools">Visit
W3Schools</a><br />
This is a link to w3schools - an external website.

Do you perhaps mean: "5 *pages* (on your own site) linked to the home page"
and "a total of 8 other *pages* linked to them"?
I don't have any high end photo manipulation
software like Adobe Photoshop or Microsoft Photodraw.

OK, you may not need it. The free software I referred to is IrfanView
www.irfanview.com . It will do resizing and optimisation. It does other
things but I haven't tried much else, because I use Microsoft Picture It!,
which came with my installation, for my other image editing. (Do you have
any included software like this?)

There is also The Gimp, which I have read about, but never tried. It is also
free (google for it). From what I have read, it doesn't have an easy
interface, but it may be worth the price (nothing).
For navigation, I was planning on using a table with corner, header,
left, and body style.

There are many ways to set up navigation.
I just use links like this (in a table down the side <div>)
<a href="sitemap.html" target="_self" title="Site Map">
<img src="images/display/sitemap.gif"
alt="" title="Site Map" width="60" height="40" /><br />
Site Map</a>

You don't need an image such as I have here (in fact this one isn't very
good) so it would work with just this:
However, everytime that I try to place a photo
in the body as a background, it doesn't fit correctly.

This the CSS for adding a background image
body {background: url(images/display/04-08-24-1-bird-bath-2.jpg) repeat
fixed top;}

Not all parameters are needed,
e.g.
repeat (repeats in x and y direction - alternatives are no-repeat, repeat-x
and repeat-y))
fixed (fixes the position of the image )
top (specifies where the image is fixed)

A background image may not be the correct size for where you are trying to
place it and I understand you can't resize a background image. So you may
have to resize it (eg with IrfanView ) to get it to fit

As you are computer savvy, how savvy are you with CSS?
In case you don't know, the place to put CSS is in the <head> section, like
this:
<style type="text/css">
body {background: url(images/display/04-08-24-1-bird-bath-2.jpg) repeat
fixed top;}
</style>
To add code here, go to Code or HTML view and just type it in, or cut and
paste the code from here

CSS can also be placed in a external file
Will I have to eat the big bucks for the above software?

No, I have not used any paid for software on my site. It may not be the
greatest site, but it is completely home-made (see below my signature)
Sorry for being a noob...but I was just overwelmed with all the info
available.

Yeah, you and me both when I started in early 2005. It gets easier after a
while, especially if you take it in small steps.
 
First, you're going t6o have to learn a bit about web sites, HTML, CSS, and
JavaScript. Maybe a bit about HTTP, but not necessarily a lot about that. It
is important to understand, though (concerning HTTP) that HTTP is a
stateless protocol. That is, each request to the server for a resource
happens without any knowledge on the server of what was previously
requested. But you'll encounter that much later.

To begin with, you'll need to understand that a web page, and all that it
"contains," is downloaded by a browser to the client machine. What this
means is, if you have a lot of people using dial-up connections to the
Internet, the more data that has to be downloaded, the longer it will take
the page to load on the client machine. For this reason, keep things like
images, sound files, and other "non-text" elements in your web to a minimum.

Second, I see you mentioned "5 sites liked to the home page." By this, I
would imagine you meant "5 pages." A "site" is a web site. A web site is a
related collection of HTML documents and other resources located on a
domain, or in a domain, identified by a single IP address (or domain name),
and in the folders on the machine under the root folder. It is called a
"web" because the pages have links that, like the threads of a spider web,
tie (link) the resources together. It's important, if you need help in the
future, to be able to use the right terminology, so that everyone can
understand your questions and help out.

CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) is a text-based language that applies "styling"
(layout and appearance) to your HTML elements. It is often "inline"
(appearing in an HTML tag), but can also be located in the <head> section of
the page, or even in an external CSS file. It can be a life-saver.

JavaScript is a scripting language often used in web pages for a variety of
purposes. FrontPage "behaviors" rely on JavaScript, as do a number of other
"client-side" (in the client browser) features.

In other words, despite what you may have heard, you *do* need to learn
something about these things in order to use FrontPage (or any other web dev
software) effectively.

You can find out a lot more by browsing the Microsoft FrontPage web site:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/FX010858021033.aspx. Be sure to visit the
various expert sites listed there. Some of them have excellent tutorials to
help you get started.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.
 
Kevin Spencer wrote:
Lots of great stuff

Wow, Kevin

I tried to give an answer to the best of my limited knwoledge but, as always
you picked up on the most relevant issues and added so much more.

Your definitions of a website, CSS and HTML were spot on. (I was also
confused as to whether the OP meant 'site' or 'page'.)
 
Thank you Trevor. You made my day! :)

--
Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.
 
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