IDE to USB PROBLEM

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peluo1

Hi. I have been wanting to use an old harddrive on my new computer. I'm
not necessarily a wiz with computers but I know a little more than
average, so I knew that to view my old harddrive I would have to use a
IDE to USB cable since my computer does not support the IDE connection
(it is the newer version, the cable that connect my computer's
harddrive to to the motherboard is smaller than the old silver IDE
cables). Anyways, I got the IDE to USB cable, set me Quantum harddrive
to master mode, and connected to the computer. My computer at first
recognizes that a new storage device has been connected. I thought
things were good here, but I was wrong. Within about 30 seconds or so,
another message comes up saying that there was a problem installing the
deivice and therefore it may not work properly...and it doesnt. I can't
even see the harddrive on "my computer" or in the device manager. As
for any drivers, it says that for XP theres no need, but just in case,
after about the third time trying to connect the device, I attempted to
install some drivers off the cd that came with the cable but that did
not work.

Everything is plugged in correctly and in the proper order, so I don't
know what could possibly be wrong. If anyone out there has any ideas,
please let me know. I am completely stumped. Much appreciated!
 
R

Rod Speed

peluo1 said:
I have been wanting to use an old harddrive on my new computer.

Permanently or temporarily ?
I'm not necessarily a wiz with computers but I know a little more than
average, so I knew that to view my old harddrive I would have to use a
IDE to USB cable since my computer does not support the IDE connection

Bet it does, currenty used for an optical drive.
(it is the newer version, the cable that connect my computer's harddrive
to to the motherboard is smaller than the old silver IDE cables).

Its unlikely to use one of those, a SATA cable, for the optical drive.
Anyways, I got the IDE to USB cable, set me Quantum harddrive
to master mode, and connected to the computer. My computer at
first recognizes that a new storage device has been connected.
I thought things were good here, but I was wrong. Within about
30 seconds or so, another message comes up saying that there
was a problem installing the deivice and therefore it may not
work properly...and it doesnt.

That is usually seen when the USB stack is
corrupted if that problem persists after a reboot.
I can't even see the harddrive on "my computer" or in the device
manager. As for any drivers, it says that for XP theres no need,

That is correct.
but just in case, after about the third time trying to connect
the device, I attempted to install some drivers off the cd
that came with the cable but that did not work.
Everything is plugged in correctly and in the proper order, so I don't
know what could possibly be wrong. If anyone out there has any ideas,
please let me know. I am completely stumped. Much appreciated!

Its non trivial to fix a corrupted USB stack.

Does the drive work in another XP system ?
 
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peluo1

corrupted if that problem persists after a reboot. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS WHEN THE USB STACK IS CORRUPTED, BUT IT DOESNT SOUND GOOD. IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT ID APPRECIATE IT.





Does the drive work in another XP system ? WELL I TIRED IT ON MY FRIENDS COMPUTER AND IT SAID THAT SAME THING. HE HAS XP AS WELL.
 
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Rod Speed

TEMPORARILY

In that case the simplest approach would be to unplug the internal optical
drive and connect the old hard drive there while you copy the files off.
WELL i DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT BUT i DO KNOW THAT
THERE IS A REASON WHY I CAN'T JUST OPEN UP MY COMPUTER
AND PLUG THE HARDDRIVE IN THERE SO THAT i CAN USE IT.

You should be able to, in place of the optical drive, temporarily.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS WHEN THE USB STACK
IS CORRUPTED, BUT IT DOESNT SOUND GOOD.
IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT ID APPRECIATE IT.

XP keeps track of what USB drives have been connected
in the registry and that data can get rather scambled when
it cant add the new drive properly the first time it sees it.
WELL I TIRED IT ON MY FRIENDS COMPUTER AND
IT SAID THAT SAME THING. HE HAS XP AS WELL.

Then there is likely some problem with the IDE to USB
cable and its not likely to be a corrupted USB stack.

What are you doing about power to the old hard drive ?
You cant power it from the IDE to USB cable, you need
to have a separate power supply for the old hard drive.
 
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peluo1

drive and connect the old hard drive there while you copy the files off.

in the registry and that data can get rather scambled when
it cant add the new drive properly the first time it sees it.

cable and its not likely to be a corrupted USB stack.

What are you doing about power to the old hard drive ?
You cant power it from the IDE to USB cable, you need
to have a separate power supply for the old hard drive.




Yeah I have a separate power supply for it. I'm going to see about that
optical drive, but seriously the harddrive in my computer right now
does not have the same connections as the old hd im trying to use.
 
R

Rod Speed

peluo1 said:
Yeah I have a separate power supply for it. I'm going to see about
that optical drive, but seriously the harddrive in my computer right
now does not have the same connections as the old hd im trying to use.

Sure, most current systems do use the more recent SATA connection
for the hard drives. The optical drives normally do use the older ATA
connection tho, so you should be able to put the old hard drive on that.
 
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Jesco Lincke

peluo1 said:
Yeah I have a separate power supply for it. I'm going to see about that
optical drive, but seriously the harddrive in my computer right now
does not have the same connections as the old hd im trying to use.

Optical drive = CD/DVD-drive
Check where they're connected -> should point you to an IDE-slot
 

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