IDE and SATA at the same time?

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Hi all,
I'm going to attempt my first upgrade to my PC soon and I'll be
replacing the MB (leaning towards an MSI 865 based board).
The board has 2 IDE headers and also 2 SATA headers (if I remember
right). I have an 120MB IDE drive now that I don't want to replace, but
I am thinking of adding a second drive. Is it possible to use the IDE
drive and an SATA drive at the same time? This is probably a stupid
question, but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere, most places seem
to assume you'll use one or the other. If the boot drive is the IDE,
will the SATA just show up as another drive? There is no master/slave
thing, correct?
One last unrelated question. I'm replacing the MB, processor, and
memory but using all my old drives (HD, CD, DVD - CD RW, etc...) Will I
have to reformat the drive and reinstall XP or will I be able to just
plug the drives in as is?
Thanks
 
Guertin Graphics Art Department said:
Hi all,
I'm going to attempt my first upgrade to my PC soon and I'll be
replacing the MB (leaning towards an MSI 865 based board).
The board has 2 IDE headers and also 2 SATA headers (if I remember
right). I have an 120MB IDE drive now that I don't want to replace, but
I am thinking of adding a second drive. Is it possible to use the IDE
drive and an SATA drive at the same time? This is probably a stupid
question, but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere, most places seem
to assume you'll use one or the other. If the boot drive is the IDE,
will the SATA just show up as another drive? There is no master/slave
thing, correct?
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I have one of the MSI boards and I'm pretty sure you can go with both IDE
and SATA. I do not have SATA drives so I disabled those connections in the
BIOS, but I can't see why you couldn't have both. I imagine the SATA would
just show up as another drive. e-mail the MSI support team, they are pretty
responsive and accurate. There's a link on their website, either in "Contact
Us" or "Support". There is an e-mail address specific to tech support.
One last unrelated question. I'm replacing the MB, processor, and
memory but using all my old drives (HD, CD, DVD - CD RW, etc...) Will I
have to reformat the drive and reinstall XP or will I be able to just
plug the drives in as is?
Click to expand...

I would think a new MB means a clean install of the OS.
 
I've been trying to get to MSIs website for over a week, using both
Netscape and IE and have had no luck. That is in fact the main reason
I'm still not sure about going with them, I would hate to need support
and not be able to get to thier website. I wonder if it's just me for
some reason
 
I have an Intel D875PBZ motherboard with both SATA and IDE drives running fine.
2x 80gig running on Raid0
1x 40gig (Primary Master)
1x 120Gig IDE (Primary Slave)
1x Plexwriter Premium (Primary Slave)

All these drives are running fine, with no problems except Windows XP or 2000 would not install onto the RAID drive, even using Intel's RAID driver, apart from that excellent.!!

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I've been trying to get to MSIs website for over a week, using both Netscape and IE and have had no luck. That is in fact the main reason I'm still not sure about going with them, I would hate to need support and not be able to get to thier website. I wonder if it's just me for some reason

CapCity wrote:

Hi all,
I'm going to attempt my first upgrade to my PC soon and I'll be
replacing the MB (leaning towards an MSI 865 based board).
The board has 2 IDE headers and also 2 SATA headers (if I remember
right). I have an 120MB IDE drive now that I don't want to replace, but
I am thinking of adding a second drive. Is it possible to use the IDE
drive and an SATA drive at the same time? This is probably a stupid
question, but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere, most places seem
to assume you'll use one or the other. If the boot drive is the IDE,
will the SATA just show up as another drive? There is no master/slave
thing, correct?

I have one of the MSI boards and I'm pretty sure you can go with both IDE
and SATA. I do not have SATA drives so I disabled those connections in the
BIOS, but I can't see why you couldn't have both. I imagine the SATA would
just show up as another drive. e-mail the MSI support team, they are pretty
responsive and accurate. There's a link on their website, either in "Contact
Us" or "Support". There is an e-mail address specific to tech support.

One last unrelated question. I'm replacing the MB, processor, and
memory but using all my old drives (HD, CD, DVD - CD RW, etc...) Will I
have to reformat the drive and reinstall XP or will I be able to just
plug the drives in as is?

I would think a new MB means a clean install of the OS.

Thanks
 
XP wouldn't install on RAID 0 drives? Thats what I was planning on
doing with Intel D865 mobo. So I need an IDE drive to install XP, then
the other drives can be RAID 0?
 
I've been trying to get to MSIs website for over a week, using both Netscape and IE and have had no luck. That is in fact the main reason I'm still not sure about going with them, I would hate to need support and not be able to get to thier website. I wonder if it's just me for some reason


I just got on their site with no problems. http://www.msicomputer.com/msiforms/c_problem_desc_form2.asp is the form to fill out for tech support questions. There are a lot of required fields for system configuration - since you don't have on yet just fill in what you do have or plan to have and explain your situation fully in the problem description box.
 
Hi all,
I'm going to attempt my first upgrade to my PC soon and I'll be
replacing the MB (leaning towards an MSI 865 based board).
The board has 2 IDE headers and also 2 SATA headers (if I remember
right). I have an 120MB IDE drive now that I don't want to replace, but
I am thinking of adding a second drive. Is it possible to use the IDE
drive and an SATA drive at the same time? This is probably a stupid
question, but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere, most places seem
to assume you'll use one or the other. If the boot drive is the IDE,
will the SATA just show up as another drive? There is no master/slave
thing, correct?
One last unrelated question. I'm replacing the MB, processor, and
memory but using all my old drives (HD, CD, DVD - CD RW, etc...) Will I
have to reformat the drive and reinstall XP or will I be able to just
plug the drives in as is?
Click to expand...

You should be able to. I assume you're looking at a Neo FIS2R board? If it
is the one with the Promise controller on it, I had difficulty getting it
to work until Windows was installed on the drive on a regular IDE port and
the Promise driver was installed and the drive moved to a connector on the
Promise controller. However, those boards have 2 SATA connectors that use
the ICH5 controller as well as a couple of more and at least 1 ATA133
connector that uses the Promise controller. Some people argue that using a
dedicated controller is better, but from everything I've read about the
ICH5, it's pretty fast.

Boards these days should come with a minimum of 2 ATA100 connectors and 2
SATA connectors that all run off the ICH5 southbridge. All of those
connectors should work fine as normal.



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My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...
 
XP wouldn't install on RAID 0 drives? Thats what I was planning on
doing with Intel D865 mobo. So I need an IDE drive to install XP, then
the other drives can be RAID 0?
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I just built a computer for my brother using an Asus P4P800 Deluxe
motherboard with (2) Maxtor SATA 80GB drives using RAID 0 on the ICH5
connectors. It not only installed smooth as silk, but benchmarking on it
was phenomenal.



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8:11am up 45 days 16:57, 2 users, load average: 0.82, 0.59, 0.28

My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...
 
Hi all,
I'm going to attempt my first upgrade to my PC soon and I'll be
replacing the MB (leaning towards an MSI 865 based board).
The board has 2 IDE headers and also 2 SATA headers (if I remember
right). I have an 120MB IDE drive now that I don't want to replace, but
I am thinking of adding a second drive. Is it possible to use the IDE
drive and an SATA drive at the same time? This is probably a stupid
question, but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere, most places seem
to assume you'll use one or the other. If the boot drive is the IDE,
will the SATA just show up as another drive? There is no master/slave
thing, correct?
One last unrelated question. I'm replacing the MB, processor, and
memory but using all my old drives (HD, CD, DVD - CD RW, etc...) Will I
have to reformat the drive and reinstall XP or will I be able to just
plug the drives in as is?
Thanks
Click to expand...

As I shopped for lower-cost motherboards with SATA I found one that
had a single SATA connector and found out that it would disable one
IDE channel when connected.

This was the exception to the rule, as far as I could tell.

My current board has an SATA RAID option, which may be how they get
around that issue.
 
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