I'd like to make a dvd to send to england

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I'd like to make a video of our friend's visit from England and send it to
them. I know they use a different vcr/dvd system than we do. Would this be
something I'd be able to do in formatting the original making/creating of the
movie? Will formatting it differently (such as in PAL form) make a difference
if I send it back to my camcorder? Forgive my incorrect usage of terms. I
know just enough to get me into trouble but not enough to get out of it.
Thank you, you have helped me out of a jam before. Your assistance is
greatly appreciated!
 
I originally thought dvd would be best. I figured vhs would be my next
choice. I have gotten in the habit of sending my projects to my dv
camcorder, then capture it again in Intervideo WinDvd Creator to put it on
dvd. I do this so I don't have to wait for the rendering process everytime I
make a copy. I am still ignorant regarding internet file download. That's
another elephant to tackle another day. Show me the way as I am your devoted
follower. Seriously, thank you again for your help!
 
Typically if the DVD is going to be viewed on a European system then you
should create the DVD as PAL instead of NTSC. As far as the making copies
thing you do have another option but it would take up harddrive space. With
the DVD authoring software you have the option of saving a ISO file which is
basically the DVD put together into one file that the program can later
reopen and burn again without rendering again.
-Wojo
 
Typically if the DVD is going to be viewed on a European system then you
should create the DVD as PAL instead of NTSC..
Click to expand...

Whenever I think I understand this subject someone comes along with
some different information.

As I understand it, all DVD players are compatible with both the PAL
and NTSC format. There is a difference in resolution (PAL= 576 pixels
of vertical resolution vs 480 in NTSC), but the frame rate issue -
which is present in video tapes - is not present in DVDs. So the only
reason you'd choose PAL over NTSC for use in Europe is resolution, but
not because the DVD will be played in Europe on a European DVD player.
The DVD in NTSC format will play in Europe and in the US.

More important is the Region code issue where a DVD recorded in Region
1 format (the one we use in the US) may not play in a DVD player set
up for Region 2 code or the five other codes. However, it seems that
most DVD players in Europe are "chipped" to play either automatically
or by setting.

So - again, as I understand it - you can record a DVD here in either
PAL or NTSC and in Region 1 format and have a pretty good chance that
it's going to be playable anywhere in Europe. The exceptions would be
non-chipped Region 2 DVD players or players that just don't play
burned DVDs. (Not all US DVD players play burned DVDs) ("Burned",
here, means a non-commercially produced DVD made on your computer)

I'm probably wrong somewhere above, but the information I read keeps
changing.
 
Thanks Scoop... I agree with what Wojo and Tony said, and like Tony I'm apt
to change my mind tomorrow as I learn more.

We have friends who live here, and have a summer home in England for the
past 12 years... Chuck is a professional videographer and playwright who
still lives in the analog world. I toured his studio the other night and he
was in the middle of burning some PAL DVDs... he said he does it for the
higher quality (lines of resolution), but most players in England today can
read either NTSC or PAL discs. He noted that the counter to the higher
resolution is the noticeable 'flickering' you get in England because of the
lower frame rate.

As Tony said, playing home made discs is a different subject.

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Correctamundo! With 576 lines in PAL vs 480 in NTSC one would intuitively
think that the 20% increased pixels favors PAL completely. However, the
frame rate is what makes the two choices nearly equal. At 30 frames per
second in NTSC vs 25 in PAL, the temporal resolution (smoothness and less
flickering) is advantage NTSC, while the spacial resolution (lines per image)
favors PAL. Whatever the native resolution format it is best, however, I
read (all of this is from reading about the subject...ha ha) that converting
from NTSC to PAL (upconversion) is better than PAL to NTSC (down conversion)
mainly because frames need to be inserted. PAL dvd's play faster (4%) than
the counterpart NTSC....NTSC plays back at the correct speed thru a process
called '3:2 pulldown' (very complicated, but check the DVD player box! ha
ha). When making a dvd, its best to keep it in the same format at the source
material.


But in the end, transferring files across the internet with your own
PERSONAL peer to peer is an efficient and amazing way to go. Check out
SENDLINK at www.computerknacks.com ......it only costs $25. For
example, here is what you can do. My sister lives quite a distance, and I
don't want to go thru the hassle of making, and especially sending dvd's to
show her a movie I made. So, with SENDLINK, all you do is open the
'sendlink' window, drag your file to the bottom pane, and then drag that
over into the body of your email. You can write your email, and the link is
embedded in it to click on. When it is received at the other end, they
click on the URL presented and download the file from YOUR computer. Of
course, both sides need broadband to do this and it is very secure. Large
files take some time, but I have sent a two hour full movie overnight in
about 8 hours.....so smaller files are much faster. It really is a very
easy and painless process.....very efficient and NO WAITING for the final
movie to arrive by snail methods. Can't you just see the expression on
your friends faces if they could download a movie from you directly into
their computer.... and they won't even be able to send it back in edited
form unless they get 'sendlink' too.... ha ha Have fun whatever you do.
 
Yup, thats right. I've only done pics and songs that way, but not video
files.
That way you could accomplish the task for free, if the other side wishes to
put you on their chat list! ha ha The direct transfer is pretty cool
though if you don't want to bother your sendee, and also if you have multiple
files to send.

And, the movie should be saved in High Quality -NTSC rather than into a
DV-AVI file which would be pretty huge to send. If doing a picture
slideshow/ combination video I still like PapaJohns high def emulations for
really high quality. The file is bigger but not like DV-AVI. I don't ever
seem to see much discussion of that in the forums, but I still say that is a
'blow you away cool format' to use.
 
Wow! I am so very impressed with the responses to my problem! It all just
makes me want to learn so much more! I am definately hooked! Thank you! I am
going to experiment with all the suggestions. I think I'll record my project
different ways and send them all to my penpal in England and find out which
works the best for him. We've been writing each other since we were 14 years
old...back in 1968. Finally met last August. Like we used to
say..."Groovy!". When I finally find what worked best, I'll post a note.
Thank you all again so very much!
 
Tony unfortunately most of this is wrong :( see below.

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Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


Tony Cooper said:
Whenever I think I understand this subject someone comes along with
some different information.

As I understand it, all DVD players are compatible with both the PAL
and NTSC format.
Click to expand...

This is generally true, most european dvd players and tv sets can play a pseudo ntsc signal. The older sets cannot and if so tend to play a B/W signal or a corrupt one.

There is a difference in resolution (PAL= 576 pixels
of vertical resolution vs 480 in NTSC), but the frame rate issue -
which is present in video tapes - is not present in DVDs.
Click to expand...

No the frame rate of a ntec dvd is 29.97 same as if it was on vhs or the camcorder tape or PC.

So the only
reason you'd choose PAL over NTSC for use in Europe is resolution,
Click to expand...

No, the way the chrominace and luminace is carried is also different.

but
not because the DVD will be played in Europe on a European DVD player.
The DVD in NTSC format will play in Europe and in the US.
Click to expand...


As I said above.

More important is the Region code issue where a DVD recorded in Region
1 format (the one we use in the US) may not play in a DVD player set
up for Region 2 code or the five other codes. However, it seems that
most DVD players in Europe are "chipped" to play either automatically
or by setting.
Click to expand...

We do chip our players, we also ave a great amount of cheap all region players. The important point here though, is people who burn their own dvds do not make a region coded dvd. The better software does have this facility, but people would be stupid to use it.
So - again, as I understand it - you can record a DVD here in either
PAL or NTSC and in Region 1 format and have a pretty good chance that
it's going to be playable anywhere in Europe. The exceptions would be
non-chipped Region 2 DVD players or players that just don't play
burned DVDs. (Not all US DVD players play burned DVDs) ("Burned",
here, means a non-commercially produced DVD made on your computer)
Click to expand...

As above. The pc should play it if it is ntsc or pal, most dvd players will play ntsc here.
To do the job properly you need standards conversion software, not cheap, such as canopus procoder, £300 $500???


Graham
 
Please do let us know. Knowledge is power. :-)

Scoop said:
Wow! I am so very impressed with the responses to my problem! It all
just
makes me want to learn so much more! I am definately hooked! Thank you! I
am
going to experiment with all the suggestions. I think I'll record my
project
different ways and send them all to my penpal in England and find out
which
works the best for him. We've been writing each other since we were 14
years
old...back in 1968. Finally met last August. Like we used to
say..."Groovy!". When I finally find what worked best, I'll post a note.
Thank you all again so very much!
Click to expand...
 
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