ICS not among my services. What to do?

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David J. Braden

Hi,
I'm trying to get two PCs networked, one to share a connection with the
other (it has two LAN cards). I have been able to get these computers to
recognize each other, but the client couldn't get to the Internet.

Is this possibly because ICS isn't evidently installed for either computer?
I don't see it among the services, and yet I see reference to it in "XP
Inside Out". What can I do, please.

Many thanks in advance,
Dave Braden
 
How are you connecting these computers together ?? Router, Hub, wireless ??
What type of internet connection do you have ?? How is it connected ??

MD
 
Thanks for the interest, MD.
PC1, running XP Pro, connected to the Internet through a so-called gateway
(modem+router). PC2, running XP Home, is connected to a second card on PC1
through a switch (more computers to be added later). I'm trying to get the
two computers sharing the Internet connection, and am having a devil of a
time doing so.

Many TIA.
DaveB
 
David J. Braden said:
Thanks for the interest, MD.
PC1, running XP Pro, connected to the Internet through a so-called gateway
(modem+router). PC2, running XP Home, is connected to a second card on PC1
through a switch (more computers to be added later). I'm trying to get the
two computers sharing the Internet connection, and am having a devil of a
time doing so.

Many TIA.
DaveB
Click to expand...
You don't need ICS with a router. You should connect the router to the
switch then the two PC's to the switch.
 
This service is renamed to Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection
Sharing (ICS) after the installation of Service Pack 2.

This service was named Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) with Service Pack 1a.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Tony,
Thank you for your suggestion. You implicitly suggest peer-to-peer, which
isn't what I am seeking (was I not clear enough?). I want the two computers
(and soon more) to share the same connection; my primary computer will be
the mediator between my LAN and the rest of the world.

Again, thanks.

Regards,
Dave Braden
 
Hi Wes,
Mensch, this stuff drives me nuts when I let it. Thanks for the heads-up re
the service name-change; Regardless, your info isn't enough for me to get
things going on my own (and I *do* appreciate your post!!). I may have to
sacrifice my systems to hacks trained in Windows-Networking arcana. Network
Wizard is about as useful for my setting up the most trivial network as is
Excel's number-crunching capabilities are accurate (not good, fwiw).

I'm at a bare-bones level (I have no proxy servers, etc.), am letting my
ISP/router set up the addressing (mistake? dunno), have tried this with
Windows Firewall (a joke) on and off, and countless other configurations out
of, what, more than 4536 possibilities just at the easily accessible
interfaces?

I am new to this newsgroup, and don't yet know if it's the right place to be
posting. Would you suggest I post to another spot? This NG might be the
equivalent of the excel.newuser group, which is fine, but not the spot for
more specific questions.

Again: I have an XP Pro machine with two comm cards; I want to have it
connect to the Inet, and the rest of my humble LAN connect to the Inet
through my primary computer. This is a home-based operation (and the IP
address is whatever my ISP wants to dish out). Where to start?---as all of
my attempts thus far have been futile. And FWIW, I found setting up a far
more substantial network some years back with Macs and Suns a hell of a lot
more straightforward.

Grumpy in Sillycone Valley,
Dave Braden
(Excel)
 
I am no expert, but going by my own system, which used to use ICS to connect
my wife's Pc to the internet, the ICS option only appears on a dial up
connection. Dial up includes the USB broadband modem that I used for my
ADSL line. Now that I have switched to an ADSL modem/router my PC connects
via an Ethernet cable (as does my wife's) and neither show the ICS option.
I suspect that by using a router you have negated the ICS facility. To get
it back you would need to have a dial up (or broadband modem pseudo dial up)
set up.

It happens that the broadband dial up software is still on my PC and I have
just checked to confirm that it is only on the dial up connection that I
have an ICS option, there is no such facility on the Ethernet connection.
Hope this helps.
 
I am new to this newsgroup, and don't yet know if it's the right place to be
posting. Would you suggest I post to another spot? This NG might be the
equivalent of the excel.newuser group, which is fine, but not the spot for
more specific questions.

Again: I have an XP Pro machine with two comm cards; I want to have it
connect to the Inet, and the rest of my humble LAN connect to the Inet
through my primary computer. This is a home-based operation (and the IP
address is whatever my ISP wants to dish out). Where to start?---as all of
my attempts thus far have been futile. And FWIW, I found setting up a far
more substantial network some years back with Macs and Suns a hell of a lot
more straightforward.
Click to expand...

Most home networks skip ICS when there's a router and do peer to peer
workgroup. Topography is:
modem-->router-->workgroup
The router manages the internet connection and the workgroup.

You want to have
modem-->router-->one pc serving the internet connection --> one or more
pcs. (Not sure if you want to fit workgroup/lan in there or not.)

One problem that could complicate the desired configuration: ICS has an IP
hardcoded and some routers use the same one. If the IP is changeable on the
router, then I'm pretty sure that you should be able to do what you want.

My only experiences with home networking have been using ICS or using the
first configuration shown above so I don't know how to set up what you want
(a combo of the two). The folks in the windowsxp.networking_web newsgroup
should be able to set you on the right path though.

You can find some useful articles here:
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/
And here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.mspx
I find Barb Bowman's articles to be especially helpful for configuring a
network.

Also, did you try the XP networking wizard? I'm not particularly a fan of
wizards but this one is halfway decent and might help. Incidentally, I see
the settings for ICS on the Advanced page of the properties sheets for the
NIC in Network Connections. I do not find it listed in the General
properties with things like File and Print Sharing.
 
Keith,
Thanks for the feedback. *I* see the service that Wes pointed to under my
ADSL connection (through a hardware firewall); as he pointed out, it is now
(as of SP 2) under the Windows Firewall service. Why you don't see it
puzzles, and to an extent worries, me, at least to the degree it might throw
a local "netxpert" for a loop.

I'm used to solving this sort of stuff on my own in a timely fashion, and
feel embarrassed that I just don't get it. Regardless, I *will* get this set
up, and, at Wes's prodding, report the "solution" to you guys. I used to
post a lot in the Excel ng's (I was an MVP), and can really appreciate
seeing an OP replying with what did the trick for his/her problem.

Last queries: this seems like a "basic" question to me; am I off in this
regard? Or should I be posting for this sort of help in another NG?

If *any* of you want help w/ mathematical economics or theoretical/applied
statistics, plz feel free to post to the ms.excel.* groups. I owe you guys.
And I actually know something about the areas, as opposed to my total
inanity re networks.

Regards,
Dave Braden
 
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