IBM drags Intel into court in SCO case

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I thought IBM and Intel were friends? Wierd legal manoeuvres abound:

IBM wants Intel in court
http://69.56.255.194/?article=21031

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf, you surprise me. To quote Lyndon Johnson, if you want a
friend in Washington, get a dog.

Intel would make "friends" with the Lord of Darkness if they thought
it was useful to maintaining their preeminence in a line of business
they deemed to be important.

In this case, though, I'll guess that the subpoena is about Monterey
and Itanium, as suggested on slashdot:

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/02/01/0327239.shtml?tid=123&tid=88&tid=136&tid=118&tid=17

post by bstadil (Hogwash!).

Intel will be deposed as to just how badly they called it on Itanium,
and (more darkly) a serious discrepancy between what they told
investors and what they told IBM. The AMD fanboys are just going to
love this.

RM
 
Yousuf, you surprise me. To quote Lyndon Johnson, if you want a
friend in Washington, get a dog.

I wuz sorta wondering where Yousuf was coming from here too. IBM and AMD
have been life-long buddies. Intel? Ok in the early 80's IBM floated
'em. Since?

This will be an interesting story to watch though.
 
They may yet be. There are reasons why Intel might
prefer that IBM do it this way.


See the full text of the subpoena at:
<http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050130142654759>
along with the usual informed and underinformed
speculation.

Hmm, so now we have IBM, Intel, SCO and Microsoft involved. Any
chances that this will turn into the "Mother Of All Lawsuits" for the
decade? :P

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Robert said:
Intel will be deposed as to just how badly they called it on Itanium,
and (more darkly) a serious discrepancy between what they told
investors and what they told IBM. The AMD fanboys are just going to
love this.

What would that have anything to do with Linux?

Yousuf Khan
 
keith said:
I wuz sorta wondering where Yousuf was coming from here too. IBM and AMD
have been life-long buddies. Intel? Ok in the early 80's IBM floated
'em. Since?

Well, only certain parts of IBM are buddies with AMD, which is the
chip-making side. The server-making, and until recently, the PC/laptop
making sides were pure Intel, with a few AMD's tucked away in a corner
out of sight.

Yousuf Khan
 
bbbl67 said:
Well, only certain parts of IBM are buddies with AMD, which is the
chip-making side. The server-making, and until recently, the PC/laptop
making sides were pure Intel, with a few AMD's tucked away in a corner
out of sight.

Perhaps you've forgotten why and how AMD got into the x86 biz?
 
What would that have anything to do with Linux?

You're messing with my head, right?

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/chips/0,39020354,2133520,00.htm

Monterey was an IBM-SCO Unix-ware project for IBM, cancelled by IBM.
SCO claims IBM wanted the project only as a stalking horse for SCO IP.

The slashdot post I cited earlier

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/02/01/0327239.shtml?tid=123&tid=88&tid=136&tid=118&tid=17

speculates that IBM wants Intel to 'fess up to the fact that it warned
IBM that Itanium wasn't going to arrive on schedule, and that that's
why IBM cancelled Monterey, not so that they could dump SCO-Unix in
favor of Linux.

RM
 
See the full text of the subpoena at:
Hmm, so now we have IBM, Intel, SCO and Microsoft involved.
Any chances that this will turn into the "Mother Of All
Lawsuits" for the decade? :P

It would, if IBM can drag MS fully into this. Although
Novell is after MS, whether IBM thinks MS is the invisible
hand behind SCO is just guessing at this point.

If you look at the IBM-SCO Timeline/document-log at:
<http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20031016162215566>
you'll see that the word "microsoft" appears nowhere ...

.... yet.
 
Robert said:
You're messing with my head, right?

Not at all, until this message, you hadn't yet connected all of the
dots.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/chips/0,39020354,2133520,00.htm

Monterey was an IBM-SCO Unix-ware project for IBM, cancelled by IBM.
SCO claims IBM wanted the project only as a stalking horse for SCO IP.

The slashdot post I cited earlier

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/02/01/0327239.shtml?tid=123&tid=88&tid=136&tid=118&tid=17

speculates that IBM wants Intel to 'fess up to the fact that it warned
IBM that Itanium wasn't going to arrive on schedule, and that that's
why IBM cancelled Monterey, not so that they could dump SCO-Unix in
favor of Linux.

Ah, now I see what you're talking about. Now the dots are connected.

Actually, I hadn't even thought about Monterrey in a long time. This is
the first time I'm seeing Monterrey mentioned in conjunction with
Linux.

Yousuf Khan
 
Robert said:
You're messing with my head, right?

Not at all, until this message, you hadn't yet connected all of the
dots.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/chips/0,39020354,2133520,00.htm

Monterey was an IBM-SCO Unix-ware project for IBM, cancelled by IBM.
SCO claims IBM wanted the project only as a stalking horse for SCO IP.

The slashdot post I cited earlier

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/02/01/0327239.shtml?tid=123&tid=88&tid=136&tid=118&tid=17

speculates that IBM wants Intel to 'fess up to the fact that it warned
IBM that Itanium wasn't going to arrive on schedule, and that that's
why IBM cancelled Monterey, not so that they could dump SCO-Unix in
favor of Linux.

Ah, now I see what you're talking about. Now the dots are connected.

Actually, I hadn't even thought about Monterrey in a long time. This is
the first time I'm seeing Monterrey mentioned in conjunction with
Linux.

Yousuf Khan
 
YKhan said:
Actually, I hadn't even thought about Monterrey in a long time. This is
the first time I'm seeing Monterrey mentioned in conjunction with
Linux.

I could be wrong, but I believe SCO claimed IP was transferred from
Monterey to Linux way back when they filed their lawsuit against IBM.
They certainly brought it up early in the process, and have been
claiming it ever since.
 
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