I now have a hub.

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Here is the Hub I bought:

http://www.blackboxonline.co.uk/uk_le2801ae-3214

I have a router:

http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Belkin_20711535

I have used up all my ports on the router. I was told to get a hub and I
suppose attach a port in the hub to one of the ports on the router. Trouble
is I think with this hub there will be collisions. Each unit on the network
will need to access the Internet and be in communication with the rest of
the machines in the Domain. Was this a wrong choice of hub and if so what
would be a better one for what I want to accomplish?
 
George said:
Here is the Hub I bought:

http://www.blackboxonline.co.uk/uk_le2801ae-3214

I have a router:

http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Belkin_20711535

I have used up all my ports on the router. I was told to get a hub and I
suppose attach a port in the hub to one of the ports on the router. Trouble
is I think with this hub there will be collisions. Each unit on the network
will need to access the Internet and be in communication with the rest of
the machines in the Domain. Was this a wrong choice of hub and if so what
would be a better one for what I want to accomplish?
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Well, yes there will be collisions. But that is perfectly normal. In
fact that is the way that Ethernet works. As someone else suggested a
switch might have been a better choice but given the amount of data that
passes through a typical inernet connection a hub won't hurt you much if
the primary activity is simply sharing an internet connection. You might
just want to connect those computers with the lightest communications
need to the hub though.

The time that collisions might be noticeable will be when the users find
out that they can pass huge files back and forth among their computers.
When that happens you may want to go for a switch big enough to give
each user their own port and connect that to the router.
 
Here is the Hub I bought:

http://www.blackboxonline.co.uk/uk_le2801ae-3214

I have a router:

http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Belkin_20711535

I have used up all my ports on the router. I was told to get a hub and I
suppose attach a port in the hub to one of the ports on the router. Trouble
is I think with this hub there will be collisions. Each unit on the network
will need to access the Internet and be in communication with the rest of
the machines in the Domain. Was this a wrong choice of hub and if so what
would be a better one for what I want to accomplish?
Click to expand...

How much simultaneous traffic and number of systems on this
hub? Had you tried it and found the performance to be
lacking?
 
No haven't tried it yet. The other machine isn't ready. It is like this.
Right now I have a domain controller and that sees all the other machines on
the Network. The others do too. Right now the system is:

Windows 2000 Advanced Server Domain Controller. Uses DNS but not DHCP
Windows 2000 Server. A member server.
Windows 2000 Professional.
Windows XP Professional.

In the W2K Server I have a P2P client. The files it uses are distributed
around the system. For harddrive purposes. Any Internet activity is done
through the Domain Controller because that is what I want to do. But I also
use that to distribute files around the Network.

The next machine will perform the same function as the last three above.
Basically they are just file repositories. But I believe I will have to
change the Ethernet cards attached to the Hub as Half-Duplex. I do that I
should be good to go?

I'm sure there is a better way of setting this Network up. Like Cable Modem
to Router to Adv Server. Then set it's DHCP up to broadcast the IPs within
the range of the Router. Use that second card to hook to Hub an the rest of
the systems hook to the Hub by which they receive their IP addresses from
my DHCP server and of course the DNS server they use from the Adv Server.
I'm new to this and really have no qualms just doing whatever works the idea
being each machine can hook to the Internet and see everyone else on the
Network.
 
George said:
Here is the Hub I bought:

http://www.blackboxonline.co.uk/uk_le2801ae-3214
Click to expand...

they sell good products but they are way so expensive. where did you
buy it?

I have a router:

http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Belkin_20711535
Click to expand...

i'm not sure that belkin sel good routers. hey definitely sell bad
KVMs.
I have used up all my ports on the router. I was told to get a hub and I
suppose attach a port in the hub to one of the ports on the router.
Click to expand...

i'm no expert, maye somebody else knows. But doesn't he want 100BaseT.
Not 10BaseT ?

you wnna be able to send data between comps at 100Mb/s . All modern
NICs support both 100Mb/s as well as 10Mb/s. Better to have a hub that
supports that higher speed.


You see all the holes on the front of the hub. they connect to Comps
with a straight-through cable. You could connect a router to one of
those witha Xover cable. Or, see if there's an uplink port on the hub,
connect the router to that with a straight-through cable. The only
difference between that 1 uplink poer and the other ports is the
interface is the other way around.,

A Computer's NIC won't send if there is data on a wire. but there is a
possibility that 2 comps will see the wire is free, and they'll both
send and they'll be a collision. But this is expcted to happen
sometimes and is dealt with by the NICS. it's called CSMA/CD. CD in
there stands for collision detection.


A switch is better than a hub. I think ther are no collssions in a
switch. Plus, I think hubs are only HDX(half duplex) i.e. can't send
and receive at the same time. It might appear that you can, because
perhaps it'll send a little, receive a little, send a little, e.t.c.
v. quickly.

Maybe, if you have an old router(with a built in switch). you can plug
it in and use the switch of it.




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