I have XP Home -but it says NT

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*Ok, so I dont get it. Am I just not understanding XP?
I clearly see that XP Home is insalled (with SP1 & SP2)
Yet when I try to run simple programs, it says that it's (they)
are not compatible for NT. What is NT? Someone, please help me out
:eek:
 
Hi,

WindowsXP is an NT-based system (progression from WinNT-->Win2000-->WinXP)
as opposed to a 9x system (Win95/98/ME). Try installing in compatibility
mode, you will find this feature under programs/accessories.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
*Ok, so I dont get it. Am I just not understanding XP?
I clearly see that XP Home is insalled (with SP1 & SP2)
Yet when I try to run simple programs, it says that it's (they)
are not compatible for NT. What is NT? Someone, please help me out.
:eek: *
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Pretty simple. Either the program's are older than XP, or they incorrectly
identify WindowsXP as Windows NT, as it really is NT5(?).

WindowsNT WAS the 'professional' O/S, in NT Server and NT Workstation
flavors, as opposed to Windows 9x. The non-NT versions of windows still
required DOS, and were loaded on top of DOS. NT-based system's on the other
hand, did not run on top of DOS.
 
AlexHolzl said:
*Ok, so I dont get it. Am I just not understanding XP?
I clearly see that XP Home is insalled (with SP1 & SP2)
Yet when I try to run simple programs, it says that it's (they)
are not compatible for NT. What is NT? Someone, please help me out.
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NT is the result of a cooperation between Microsoft and IBM, which then
split and ended up in two different products: Microsoft Windows NT (New
Technology) 3.11 (which was effectively Windows 3.11 with a new core
replacing MS-DOS) and IBM OS/2. NT was later succeeded by various versions
up to 3.51. Then came NT 4.0, which was NT with the Windows 4.0 interface
(also used in Windows 95). Before release NT 5.0 was rebranded to "Windows
2000", with the tagline "built on NT technology". This tagline has been
slightly toned down since then, but for all purposes Windows XP == Windows
NT 5.1 with a fancy name.
 
André Gulliksen said:
NT is the result of a cooperation between Microsoft and IBM, which then
split and ended up in two different products: Microsoft Windows NT (New
Technology) 3.11 (which was effectively Windows 3.11 with a new core
replacing MS-DOS) and IBM OS/2. NT was later succeeded by various versions
up to 3.51. Then came NT 4.0, which was NT with the Windows 4.0 interface
(also used in Windows 95). Before release NT 5.0 was rebranded to "Windows
2000", with the tagline "built on NT technology". This tagline has been
slightly toned down since then, but for all purposes Windows XP == Windows
NT 5.1 with a fancy name.
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And MS based that NT(FS) technology on the filing system which was IBM's
HPFS, and locked out anything HPFS from using NTFS.

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/ntfs/over-c.html

" Before there was Windows NT, there was OS/2. OS/2 was a joint project of
Microsoft and IBM in the early 1990s; the two companies were trying to
create the next big success in the world of graphical operating systems.
They succeeded, to some degree, depending on how you are measuring success.
:^) OS/2 had some significant technical accomplishments, but suffered from
marketing and support issues. Eventually, Microsoft and IBM began to
quarrel, and Microsoft broke from the project and started to work on Windows
NT. When they did this, they borrowed many key concepts from OS/2's native
file system, HPFS, in creating NTFS "
 
Not accurate. Don't confuse 'NT' with Windows NT 4 in this context. In the
context of the OP's question, 'NT' is a pedigree and not a version. 'NT' =
'New Technology'. In this context, NT is newer than 9x/ME because 9x/ME is
no longer being developed and NT now extends through Windows Server 2003
(Win 5.2).
 
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AlexHolzl said:
*Ok, so I dont get it. Am I just not understanding XP?
I clearly see that XP Home is insalled (with SP1 & SP2)
Yet when I try to run simple programs, it says that it's (they)
are not compatible for NT. What is NT? Someone, please help me
out.
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Over the years there have been two lines of Windows products from
Microsoft (minor variations left out):

1. The consumer line

Windows 1
Windows 2
Windows 3
Windows 3.1
Windows for Workgroups 3.11
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows Me

2. The professional line

Windows NT 3.1
Windows NT 3.5
Windows NT 4.0
Windows 2000 (really Windows NT 5.0 under the hood)
Windows XP (really Windows NT 5.1 under the hood)

Windows XP was the first product in the NT line to come in two
versions--Home and Professional. This is Microsoft's unification
of the two lines.

So yes, you're running Windows NT.
 
Not accurate. Don't confuse 'NT' with Windows NT 4 in this context.
In the context of the OP's question, 'NT' is a pedigree and not a
version. 'NT' = 'New Technology'. In this context, NT is newer than
9x/ME because 9x/ME is no longer being developed and NT now extends
through Windows Server 2003 (Win 5.2).
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I didn't confuse anyhting here. I did state that XP was NT5, and don't
think I mentioned anything about NT4.0. I did state that the offending
program was older than XP, or incorrectly identified XP as NT, probably
because the function call looking for the version looks at any result
greater than 4 as being NT, which returns 5, while XP returns 6. If the
code says 'if version > 4 then it's NT' it will incorrectly identify it as
Windows NT.

DanS
 
DanS said:
I didn't confuse anyhting here. I did state that XP was NT5
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Windows 2000 is NT 5. XP is NT 5.1, 2003 is 5.2. I believe the expected
Longhorn is supposed to be NT 6.0.
 
Ken said:
Over the years there have been two lines of Windows products from
Microsoft (minor variations left out):

1. The consumer line

Windows 1
Windows 2
Windows 3
Windows 3.1
Windows for Workgroups 3.11
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows Me

2. The professional line

Windows NT 3.1
Windows NT 3.5
Windows NT 4.0
Windows 2000 (really Windows NT 5.0 under the hood)
Windows XP (really Windows NT 5.1 under the hood)

Windows XP was the first product in the NT line to come in two
versions--Home and Professional. This is Microsoft's unification
of the two lines.

So yes, you're running Windows NT.
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Just one quibble, Ken. I think Windows for Workgroups was aimed more
at the business/professional market than at the consumer market. Very
few people had home networks in those days.


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Bruce Chambers

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both at once. - RAH
 
One of the oddities of WFW is that I bought a Packard Bell (keeping a
straight face here) with WFW preinstalled. Even though WFW 3.11 was on my
computer at work, the splash screen on my PB very clearly stated WFW 3.12.
Now, WFW 3.12 was a Far East version as far as I know and I never ran across
any other brands shipping with 3.12. I wonder if PB hacked it.
 
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Bruce Chambers said:
Just one quibble, Ken. I think Windows for Workgroups was
aimed more
at the business/professional market than at the consumer
market. Very
few people had home networks in those days.
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Perhaps so, but nevertheless it was part of the Windows 3.x line
as opposed to the NT line.
 
Kelly

Older programs written before XP will recognise the kernel of XP as being NT
because it essentially is.. NT is the parent operating system..

For other problems, a description will be necessary..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user
 
how do i do that?

Colin Barnhorst said:
Start a new thread and describe you computer and your issues.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
kelly said:
hi ,im having many problems with mine xp too so would welcome any advice
you
recieve,
kelly
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Kelly

First decide on the title.. if you have licensing issues, then that is what
you type as a subject..

Then in the large white part, you describe your problems.. try to be clear
and concise.. if you have many issues, start ne paragraphs.. don't use vague
statements like "I have a program which.. "..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

How to post..





kelly said:
how do i do that?

Colin Barnhorst said:
Start a new thread and describe you computer and your issues.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
kelly said:
hi ,im having many problems with mine xp too so would welcome any
advice
you
recieve,
kelly

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*Ok, so I dont get it. Am I just not understanding XP?
I clearly see that XP Home is insalled (with SP1 & SP2)
Yet when I try to run simple programs, it says that it's (they)
are not compatible for NT. What is NT? Someone, please help me out.
:eek: *
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To kelly- To start a new thread, go to the far left and click on New Post.
To Axel and kelly - NT=New Technology and I believe means anything more
advanced than WIN98SE.
To Axel- For older programs, there is Win95 compatability mode which one
of
the MS-MVP's can explain.
Hope this helps.
kelly said:
how do i do that?

Colin Barnhorst said:
Start a new thread and describe you computer and your issues.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
kelly said:
hi ,im having many problems with mine xp too so would welcome any
advice
you
recieve,
kelly

:


*Ok, so I dont get it. Am I just not understanding XP?
I clearly see that XP Home is insalled (with SP1 & SP2)
Yet when I try to run simple programs, it says that it's (they)
are not compatible for NT. What is NT? Someone, please help me out.
:eek: *
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riverdogs05 said:
To Axel and kelly - NT=New Technology
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Actually, although "NT" originally stood for "New Technology,"
Microsoft's stance these days is that it doesn't stand for
anything.

and I believe means
anything more advanced than WIN98SE.
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No, that was never accurate. NT is a particular family of
operating systems, and it has nothing to do with the age or
advancement of the operating system. Some NT versions are older
than WIndows 98SE, others are newer. And not all those which are
newer are in the NT family (for example, Windows Me is not).
 
hey,
windows xp is built on nt technology.....
NT is the earlier version such as windows nt
here it means the programs which you are trying to run is not meant for your
operating system ( xp)
 
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