I have problems, someone please help!!

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gtp20

Hello folks,

I am hoping someone can help me. I found a broken computer in an old
apartment and am trying to get it working again. I turned it on and
there was no operating system, so I installed windows xp home edition
(I have a valid copy) and it works fine, I installed an ethernet card
and got online just fine. the system is a 1000 mhz 256 ram and 30 gig
hard drive. Now the problem:

when I start the computer it reads only the cd rom drive. If I remove
the windows xp cd it says "boot failure reboot and select proper boot
device" I CAN NOT enter the Bios. F2 does nothing, F8 does nothing
F10 does nothing, if I hit DEL a screen comes up saying "enter CURRENT
password" Which I do not know. I have run recovery console. I have
done fixmbr and it didn't work, I tried fixboot and it didn't work
either. I can't leave the cd in the drive for ever, can anyone help me
out. Is there some other way I can access the bios??

Please help me
 
It the BIOS has a password you'll have to reset the BIOS. You can do that
by jumpering two pins on the motherboard which sets EVERYTHING back to
default. You say old but that system isn't that old - I know some who
would be glad to have it! Check the motherboard manufacturer and see if
you can download the manual for the board. I have been able to get manuals
for systems older than that.
 
gtp20 said:
Hello folks,

I am hoping someone can help me. I found a broken computer in an old
apartment and am trying to get it working again. I turned it on and
there was no operating system, so I installed windows xp home edition
(I have a valid copy) and it works fine, I installed an ethernet card
and got online just fine. the system is a 1000 mhz 256 ram and 30 gig
hard drive. Now the problem:

when I start the computer it reads only the cd rom drive. If I remove
the windows xp cd it says "boot failure reboot and select proper boot
device" I CAN NOT enter the Bios. F2 does nothing, F8 does nothing
F10 does nothing, if I hit DEL a screen comes up saying "enter
CURRENT
password" Which I do not know. I have run recovery console. I have
done fixmbr and it didn't work, I tried fixboot and it didn't work
either. I can't leave the cd in the drive for ever, can anyone help
me
out. Is there some other way I can access the bios??

If this is a desktop computer, open the case and take out the
motherboard battery and let it sit for a few hours. This will return
the BIOS to default (no password). Sometimes there are jumpers on the
motherboard that can be moved to clear CMOS instead. To find out about
that, you'll need to determine the make/model of the motherboard and go
to the motherboard mftr.'s website for the manual.

Malke
 
Malke said:
If this is a desktop computer, open the case and take out the
motherboard battery and let it sit for a few hours. This will return
the BIOS to default (no password). Sometimes there are jumpers on the
motherboard that can be moved to clear CMOS instead. To find out about
that, you'll need to determine the make/model of the motherboard and go
to the motherboard mftr.'s website for the manual.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User



I'm sorry but I need to correct the above statement.
Remove the bios battery "the shiny thing that is printed with CR2032"
and then simply wait about a minute and put the battery back in.
I do it all the time

Mich...
 
I'm sorry but I need to correct the above statement.
Remove the bios battery "the shiny thing that is printed with CR2032"
and then simply wait about a minute and put the battery back in.
I do it all the time


And everything and everybody is the same to you. Different Bios different effects. Do you know which type of Bios the OP has?
 
Peter Foldes said:
I'm sorry but I need to correct the above statement.
Remove the bios battery "the shiny thing that is printed with CR2032"
and then simply wait about a minute and put the battery back in.
I do it all the time


And everything and everybody is the same to you. Different Bios different
effects. Do you know which type of Bios the OP has?

--
Peter


Peter it matters not what BIOS it is, whether it be Award, Ami, etc.
pull the battery wait a bit (not hours) and install the battery again.

Go ahead and try, and prove me wrong ;-)

Mich...
 
Mich said:
I'm sorry but I need to correct the above statement.
Remove the bios battery "the shiny thing that is printed with CR2032"
and then simply wait about a minute and put the battery back in.
I do it all the time

Mich...

The length of time you need to wait after removing the battery varies.
It can be as short a time as a minute or as long as a day. We've seen
many different time periods be effective. Naturally, if the motherboard
supports clearing CMOS with jumper settings, that is the quickest and
best way to do it.

Malke
 
Malke said:
The length of time you need to wait after removing the battery varies.
It can be as short a time as a minute or as long as a day. We've seen
many different time periods be effective. Naturally, if the motherboard
supports clearing CMOS with jumper settings, that is the quickest and
best way to do it.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


I've been doing computer repair for 10 plus years now, I have not seen what
your describing since rechargeable batteries were soldered to the
motherboard , (the 286/386 days that is)
I suppose I could be wrong, but that's impossible since I'm perfect.

Mich...
 
Malke said:
The length of time you need to wait after removing the battery varies.
It can be as short a time as a minute or as long as a day. We've seen
many different time periods be effective. Naturally, if the motherboard
supports clearing CMOS with jumper settings, that is the quickest and
best way to do it.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


More opinions: (guess I've been lucky)
http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-16329-PC-wont-go-to-BIOS-after-removing-CMOS-battery.html
Soul Harvester
10-24-2004, 06:26 AM
CMOS only retains BIOS settings for a few seconds after the battery is
removed. 24 hours is just insane overkill.

Also, on most semi-modern machines, the password isn't stored in volatile
memory and as such will never be "reset" using that method - There will be a
jumper on the motherboard to specifically erase the password. You should
search for that motherboard on the internet and fine the manual for it.

http://www.dewassoc.com/support/bios/bios_password.htm
If the "Clear CMOS" jumpers are not present or not available:

The procedures for clearing a Bios/CMOS without jumpers is essentially the
same as those given above when they are present, it just takes a little more
effort.

*

Shut down the computer and disconnect the power plug.
*

Locate, if possible, the instruction booklet for your motherboard. If
you cannot locate the booklet, then user the motherboard references on this
site to locate the manufacturer and see if a manual is available there. You
may also want to closely examine the motherboard itself.
*

Now identify where the battery is located on the motherboard. It will
be approximately 1/2 inch in diameter.
*

Normally these batteries are held into place with one or more small
clips over the face of the battery. Carefully lift the battery out of its
socket and set it aside. Note: Some batteries are actually soldered to the
motherboard, so take that into consideration and be careful.
*

Leave the battery our of the computer for about 20 to 30 minutes and
then return it to its socket.
*

Now plug the power cord back in and restart the computer.
*

Removing the CMOS Battery
http://www.techenclave.com/forums/how-to-bypass-bios-passwords-5230.html
(this one states 24 hrs).
The CMOS settings on most systems are buffered by a small battery that is
attached to the motherboard. (It looks like a small watch battery). If you
unplug the PC and remove the battery for 10-15 minutes, the CMOS may reset
itself and the password should be blank. (Along with any other machine
specific settings, so be sure you are familiar with manually reconfiguring
the BIOS settings before you do this.) Some manufacturers backup the power
to the CMOS chipset by using a capacitor, so if your first attempt fails,
leave the battery out (with the system unplugged) for at least 24 hours.
Some batteries are actually soldered onto the motherboard making this task
more difficult. Unsoldering the battery incorrectly may damage your
motherboard and other components, so please don't attempt this if you are
inexperienced. Another option may be to remove the CMOS chip from the
motherboard for a period of time.
Note: Removing the battery to reset the CMOS will not work for all PC's, and
almost all of the newer laptops store their BIOS passwords in a manner which
does not require continuous power, so removing the CMOS battery may not work
at all. IBM Thinkpad laptops lock the hard drive as well as the BIOS when
the supervisor password is set. If you reset the BIOS password, but cannot
reset the hard drive password, you may not be able to access the drive and
it will remain locked, even if you place it in a new laptop. IBM Thinkpads
have special jumper switches on the motherboard, and these should be used to
reset the system.

Removing the battery
http://www.elfqrin.com/docs/biospw.html
If you can't find the jumper to flash the BIOS or if such jumper doesn't
exist, you can remove the battery that keeps the BIOS memory alive. It's a
button-size battery somewhere on the motherboard (on elder computers the
battery could be a small, typically blue, cylinder soldered to the
motherboard, but usually has a jumper on its side to disconnect it,
otherwise you'll have to unsolder it and then solder it back). Take it away
for 15-30 minutes or more, then put it back and the data contained into the
BIOS memory should be volatilized. I'd suggest you to remove it for about
one hour to be sure, because if you put it back when the data aren't erased
yet you'll have to wait more time, as you've never removed it. If at first
it doesn't work, try to remove the battery overnight.
Important note: in laptop and notebooks you don't have to remove the
computer's power batteries (which would be useless), but you should open
your computer and remove the CMOS battery from the motherboard.
 
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